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jack_krauser
21-01-2011, 10:22 AM
Hey guys,

Going for my 2nd cycle :

1-10 weeks 500mg test e
1-3 dbol 40mg

I also want to run either anavar or winstrol at 50mg from 8-12 weeks to get shredded for summer. At the moment sitting at 190ish @ 12%bf.

Please give me some input.

Thanks bros:flagC

z83
21-01-2011, 11:43 AM
diet will determine your condition, not drugs

i'd vote for anavar or better, tbol

jack_krauser
21-01-2011, 01:10 PM
diet is spot on brother and thanks for your reply :)

#8
21-01-2011, 04:36 PM
most UG var is winny anyway so youre prolly gonna get stuck with winstrol regardless

Mr Ontario
21-01-2011, 06:06 PM
Yup,, getting it from directly from the expert in the filed :)

Get a reputable underground you should be fine.


most UG var is winny anyway so youre prolly gonna get stuck with winstrol regardless

razorsedge
21-01-2011, 07:16 PM
Why are you so set on an oral...why not an injectable stan..or a tren..or prop/mast...if your diet is spot on and ur workouts have been insane, you should be pretty lean and if you want a more hardened look.....thats only my opinion but I'd stay away from the orals..ur pinning anyway :beer

#8
21-01-2011, 07:54 PM
Yup,, getting it from directly from the expert in the filed :)

Get a reputable underground you should be fine.

Thank you for acknowledging my ability.

red rocket
21-01-2011, 08:52 PM
I'd say a good var, winny is good but joints will suffer.

Tbol ftw

jack_krauser
21-01-2011, 10:32 PM
Why are you so set on an oral...why not an injectable stan..or a tren..or prop/mast...if your diet is spot on and ur workouts have been insane, you should be pretty lean and if you want a more hardened look.....thats only my opinion but I'd stay away from the orals..ur pinning anyway :beer

This is my 2nd cycle and i don't want to run 2 compounds just yet. Also avoiding eod injections at this point.

Baconbits
22-01-2011, 10:47 AM
i don't want to run 2 compounds just yet.

Test and Dbol is 2 compounds adding var or winny will make it three

ironwill
22-01-2011, 10:53 AM
Why are you so set on an oral...why not an injectable stan..or a tren..or prop/mast...if your diet is spot on and ur workouts have been insane, you should be pretty lean and if you want a more hardened look.....thats only my opinion but I'd stay away from the orals..ur pinning anyway :beer

Some good advice here IMO^^^.........To the thread starter, Var is a nice oral, but var in my experience doesnt harden one up, good for strength gains for sure, good for recomp after a time off or long diet, thats when i find var the most effective......Masteron, and test e, or prop, keep estrogen in check, and good diet, very nice results in my opinion anyway...

jack_krauser
22-01-2011, 02:45 PM
Thanks guys.

I will just stick to dbol and test e for now and clean bulk. 15lb lean mass is more than enough at this stage.

rated_rko
22-01-2011, 03:01 PM
personally ive only used var...and its hit or miss with the lab...and you would have to find your sweet spot for desirable results but much of that has to do with diet

juced_porkchop
27-01-2011, 01:48 AM
diet will cut you ot drugs. but i would say var over winny.
also maybe look at a new product we have called "Rezolution" you will be seening reviews very soon on here.
its a fatloss supplement wich can help.

jack_krauser
27-01-2011, 12:04 PM
I decided to keep it simple

1-4 40mg dbol/week
1-10 test e 500mg/week

I am not fat to begin with and will throw in some clen after pct to cut while dieting.

juced_porkchop
29-01-2011, 08:29 PM
I decided to keep it simple

1-4 40mg dbol/week
1-10 test e 500mg/week

I am not fat to begin with and will throw in some clen after pct to cut while dieting.

dont cut right after bulkign its a bad idea.
give it a couple months AFTER pct .
your body will not be stable and you might loos more then you wish to.
let your body re-adjust 100% again.
worst thing to do is cut right after a cycle. if anythign cut before.
also keep protine up all the time , like with a powder like lipotropic or somthing.

jack_krauser
25-02-2011, 05:33 PM
Bump

Anavar doesn't look cost effective. I am thinking of running Tren Enanthate @ 200mg/wk with my test e (500mg/wk). As someone suggested earlier that i am pinning anyways then why not use tren instead of anavar. So far, I have gained 8 pounds in 3 weeks and have stayed same bf. Loving it !!!