Ghrp6

[physique]

Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide 6 is a peptide in the growth factor family. It has strong effect on the release of Growth Hormone (GH). Its main use is to promote food intake by stimulating hunger and aid in energy metabolism. It can be used in the treatment of GH deficiency as well as cachexia, eating disorders and obesity. The major side effect accompanied by the use of GHRP-6 is a significant increase in appetite due to a stimulating the release of Ghrelin, a peptide which is released naturally in the lining of the stomach and increases hunger and gastric emptying. GHRP-6 causes stimulation of the anterior pituitary gland which ultimately causes an increase in GH release. Since GHRP-6 acts directly on the feedback loop which signals the inhibition of GH release, when natural GH secretion has been inhibited by long term synthetic use, GHRP-6 can be used to re-stimulate the natural production of GH. GHRP-6 also affects the central nervous system, by protecting neurons as well as increasing strength. Benefits of increased Growth Hormone levels through GHRP-6 stimulation include: an increase in strength, muscle mass and body fat loss, rejuvenation and strengthening of joints, connective tissue and bone mass. Enhanced GH secretion also leads to the liver secreting more IGF-1 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor 1), which is thought to be the primary anabolic mechanism of action for Growth Hormone


curious to hear what the masses think of a compound like this?

[spiderman7]

Depends on the price. If its pricey I would just run GH.

[AlbertaBeef]

It's cheap, I'm going to run some in a couple of weeks and try it. It's been in my fridge for a couple of months because I wanted to stack it with hexarelin because of the synergistic effect making it a more potent GH releaser however it became unavaliable to me.

I think GHRP-6 would be really good for someone who has been on GH for a long time, a kind of GH pct.

[physique]

its pennies when comparing it to gh.

[cdnsoldier]

Depends on the price. If its pricey I would just run GH.



Oh man, you can buy 100mg of GHRP-6 for 500 bucks or so.

100mg= 100,000 mcg.

That's over 600 doses of ghrp-6. It's a lot cheaper than HGH and imo greater bang for the buck. I was broken after returning from Afghanistan. The roads were MURDER on me. I have been runningthis stuff and feel like a new man but you will be hungry constant.

[Ritch]

I`m interested in this product but want to learn more about it.

[cdnsoldier]

I`m interested in this product but want to learn more about it.

There is a lot written on it. Google GHRP-6 results and you'll have some people who experiemented.

It's a miracle for a broken body I tell you. 6 weeks on it did more than any doctor could do. It's almost bone chilling how good it repairs ligaments and bad aches etc. I say it's on par with HGH but the side effect is hunger. You have ot eat a lot on it or you might have to take a appetite suppresant if you gain too much weight. I didn't mind since my weight was good weight but I have a friend who tends to be chubby and he pu on the pounds..mind you he's a fast food freak.

[Ritch]

There is a lot written on it. Google GHRP-6 results and you'll have some people who experiemented.

It's a miracle for a broken body I tell you. 6 weeks on it did more than any doctor could do. It's almost bone chilling how good it repairs ligaments and bad aches etc. I say it's on par with HGH but the side effect is hunger. You have ot eat a lot on it or you might have to take a appetite suppresant if you gain too much weight. I didn't mind since my weight was good weight but I have a friend who tends to be chubby and he pu on the pounds..mind you he's a fast food freak.

That`s sounding good! Physique, how much will this cost? I know you can`t tell me how to use it so I won`t ask...

[cdnsoldier]

That`s sounding good! Physique, how much will this cost? I know you can`t tell me how to use it so I won`t ask...


Depends where you get it but as I said the highest I have seen guys go per day is 250mcg. So 1 gram of this stuff is literally a lifetime supply.

[physique]

should come in 10mg vials. price will be around $40-45. but thats a guess, as i am still waiting for some confirmation on it.

[cdnsoldier]

should come in 10mg vials. price will be around $40-45. but thats a guess, as i am still waiting for some confirmation on it.


That's a pretty good price. I'm in if yuo offer it.

I bought it in powder form and made my own but I would prefer to buy vials.

[Ritch]

Can anyone tell me how long a vial would last? I would research it, but would like to know before I go to bed...

[cdnsoldier]

I`m interested in this product but want to learn more about it.

Here's a good hint; The Life Extension guys have better info. than BB boards. They are the ones trying this out big time.I find some BB boards have guys who say they use certain substances but it's clear they haven't.

Make sure the person you talk to actually has used real GHRP-6.

Personally I think overall HG is better in building muscles and leaning you out but GHRP-6 is not far behind and what it does for your joints is amazing escoeically if you are hurting. The only down fall of GHRP-6 is it makes you famished. You will need a lot of damn protein powder on hand.

[Ritch]

Here's a good hint; The Life Extension guys have better info. than BB boards. They are the ones trying this out big time.I find some BB boards have guys who say they use certain substances but it's clear they haven't.

Make sure the person you talk to actually has used real GHRP-6.

Personally I think overall HG is better in building muscles and leaning you out but GHRP-6 is not far behind and what it does for your joints is amazing escoeically if you are hurting. The only down fall of GHRP-6 is it makes you famished. You will need a lot of damn protein powder on hand.

Well if you tell me it`s good for joints and shit, then I`m in. Shit, I`m considering buying that Dr Ho device to help me out. If it increases appetite, that`s great because I don`t have much of one in the first place.

So I guess I will have to research this to find out how long a 10mg vial will last me.

[Ritch]

O.k found out what I need to know and think I`d give it a try.

[cdnsoldier]

O.k found out what I need to know and think I`d give it a try.

Report here how it goes but I will warn you. You need at least 3 mths. on before you get a good feel.

[Ritch]

Report here how it goes but I will warn you. You need at least 3 mths. on before you get a good feel.

But I don`t wanna wait, I want results NOW!!! I will be running some equipoise, it will be tough to tell which is working but hey, they price is right so I think I will give it a try. You drug pusher physique...

[guest]

here's some hibbly gibbly on it....

Growth-hormone-releasing peptide 6 (GHRP6) prevents oxidant cytotoxicity and reduces myocardial necrosis in a model of acute myocardial infarction.
Berlanga J, Cibrian D, Guevara L, Dominguez H, Alba JS, Seralena A, Guillén G, López-Mola E, López-Saura P, Rodriguez A, Perez B, Garcia D, Vispo NS.

Center for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, Ave. 31 e/ 158 and 190, P.O. Box 6162, Cubanacán, Playa, Havana, Cuba. jorge.berlanga@cigb.edu.cu

Therapies aimed at enhancing cardiomyocyte survival following myocardial injury are urgently required. As GHRP6 [GH (growth hormone)-releasing peptide 6] has been shown to stimulate GH secretion and has beneficial cardiovascular effects, the aim of the present study was to determine whether GHRP6 administration reduces myocardial infarct size following acute coronary occlusion in vivo. Female Cuban Creole pigs were anaesthetized, monitored and instrumented to ensure a complete sudden left circumflex artery occlusion for 1 h, followed by a 72 h reperfusion/survival period. Animals were screened clinically before surgery and assigned randomly to receive either GHRP6 (400 microg/kg of body weight) or normal saline. Hearts were processed, and the area at risk and the infarct size were determined. CK-MB (creatine kinase MB) and CRP (C-reactive protein) levels and pathological Q-wave-affected leads were analysed and compared. Evaluation of the myocardial effect of GHRP6 also included quantitative histopathology, local IGF-I (insulin-growth factor-I) expression and oxidative stress markers. GHRP6 treatment did not have any influence on mortality during surgery associated with rhythm and conductance disturbances during ischaemia. Infarct mass and thickness were reduced by 78&#37; and 50% respectively, by GHRP6 compared with saline (P<0.01). More than 50% of the GHRP6-treated pigs did not exhibit pathogological Q waves in any of the ECG leads. Quantitative histopathology and CK-MB and CRP serum levels confirmed the reduction in GHRP6-mediated necrosis (all P<0.05). Levels of oxidative stress markers suggested that GHRP6 prevented myocardial injury via a decrease in reactive oxygen species and by the preservation of antioxidant defence systems (all P<0.05). Myocardial IGF-I transcription was not amplified by GHRP6 treatment compared with the increase induced by the ischaemic episode in relation to expression in intact hearts (P<0.01). In conclusion, GHRP6 exhibits antioxidant effects which may partially contribute to reduce myocardial ischaemic damage.

[varking]

Can you get in shot for having this??
But I am in forsure

[HoliTheCat]

How would this be stacked with 2-3ius of gh a day? Any point??

And why can't anyone say what a recommend dose would be? I recommend 2-3ius of GH a day for fat loss. Now what dose does someone recommend for this new fun time drug?

[canadianmuscle0803]

will this be legal to obtain?

[canadianmuscle0803]

i can get 5mg vials.. how is this product run? how many mgs/day and so on? whats it mixed with? when is it taken and where (subq)?

[L3]

sounds ideal for a winter bulker...

[Baconbits]

GHRP6 should be shot 3 x day @ 100mcg along with cjc. You can get away with cjc 2 x week @ 250mcg. Th e link below is where I have found the most info.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37381

[hyperlite32]

All the GHRP I have seen is in a 5mg vial. I am insterested in trying this out too. It seems to be offered at ALOT of sites, but the cost varies wide from $5 to $70 per 5mg vial. As with most peptides, they are generally formulated in china. Like everything else, quality can be a concern. But that goes for Everything in BB.

[canadianmuscle0803]

now i have to take CJC with it? whats that about lol

[wan2lrn]

My joints are fubar. I want to give this a go as well. Keep the info coming.

[giannos]

Sounds like my shoulders would love this stuff...

[natenator]

Sounds like my shoulders would love this stuff...
lmao

shoulders
knees
elbows
ankles
fingers

hah

[canadianmuscle0803]

so 1mg per day? what time of day?

[rickyboy36]

so 1mg per day? what time of day?

Who said it was 1 mg a day?

[hyperlite32]

You dont have to jun CJC with it. All the "CJC" on the market is actually GRF 1-29, it is CJC-1295 w/o the DAC, if my memory serves me right. From my research on these peptides I have read that real CJC is extremly hard to make, as well, if you DID get real CJC, it would COST a hell of alot more than what the prices it is selling for.

Also, on the dose of GHRP, I think it is common to run at 100 mcg's per shot, 1-3 times per day.

[monkey]

Sounds like some interesting stuff.. my joints would probably love me for that

[rickyboy36]

You dont have to jun CJC with it. All the "CJC" on the market is actually GRF 1-29, it is CJC-1295 w/o the DAC, if my memory serves me right. From my research on these peptides I have read that real CJC is extremly hard to make, as well, if you DID get real CJC, it would COST a hell of alot more than what the prices it is selling for.

Also, on the dose of GHRP, I think it is common to run at 100 mg per shot, 1-3 times per day.

Bro..you mean mcgs...right?

[hyperlite32]

Yes I do, doses are in MCG's my bad.

[giannos]

lmao

shoulders
knees
elbows
ankles
fingers

hah

LOL. I agree, just stated my shoulders as they are the worse right now. Elbows are really bad too and knees is a given. Ankles are alright, do I dare ask what your doing with your fingers bro ? lol

[Ritch]

Here`s what our friend Anthony Roberts has to say:

FEATURE ARTICLE

-GHRP-6 and Hexarelin
By Anthony Roberts

Earlier this year, I was interviewed by a major online bodybuilding site (the
interview was titled &#226;€œChemically Insane&#226;€), and in that interview, I
predicted that various peptides would become the newest trend in performance
enhancing drugs. For the most part, I was correct, and now they&#226;€™re very
popular and widely available, although still relatively new.

So, several months ago, I began my experimentation with various peptides, mostly
with the goal of figuring out the best way to use them. My last major article
examined my experiences with the two most popular peptides (IGF and MGF)
currently on the market. This time around, I&#226;€™m going to tell you about my
experience with Hexarelin and GHRP-6, two lesser known peptides. With Lr3IGF-1,
the use and goals of use is pretty straightforward&#226;€&#166;you pretty much use it to
gain muscle and lose fat; on rare occasions, people use it to rehab an injury (I
actually provided a full rehab protocol using IGF-1 in my first e-book). With
MGF, it&#226;€™s even simpler&#226;€&#166;you use it to increase muscle size, period.

Using the other peptides is a bit more complicated, and there are a couple of
other reasons you might want to consider using them&#226;€&#166;but I&#226;€™m getting a bit
ahead of myself. The first thing I do when I&#226;€™m researching a new anabolic is
to jump on the internet and do some research in all of the available medical
databases, and exhaust every search engine imaginable with keywords related to
the new compound. The next thing I do is typically to get a couple of vials and
try it for myself. I&#226;€™m in a very unique position with regards to trying new
compounds; in the case of several compounds (Esterless Boldenone, Masteron
Enanthate, Stealth Injectables, etc&#226;€&#166;) I was actually able to try the products
before they were released to the general public. In the case of Hexarelin and
GHRP-6, I have had the opportunity to experiment with them for the past few
months.

When I first received my vials of GHRP-6 and Hexarelin, I did what most people
probably do&#226;€&#166;I reconstituted them, shot first, and asked questions later. I
thought it would be a great idea to fire up 600mcs of GHRP-6 just before a heavy
max effort deadlift session. Bad idea. I have a 45 minute drive to my gym (I
happen to workout at a military academy, where I coach), and halfway there, I
started to get a bit hungry. No problem, right? We&#226;€™ve all worked out a bit
hungry&#226;€&#166;well, that&#226;€™s what I thought at first. Then when I hit about 400lbs
into my deadlifts, I started getting dizzy&#226;€&#166;I broke into a cold sweat, and I
had to sit down. I rushed to get some simple carbs into my body as quickly as
possible, thinking that I was going hypoglycemic. Ok&#226;€&#166;I wasn&#226;€™t going
hypoglycemic, but it was pretty bad. That workout was shot. Still, I was
wondering if I could actually slip into some kind of severe hypoglycemia from a
shot of GHRP-6&#226;€&#166;it certainly felt like I could.

So, naturally, I was interested, and did some experimenting. I waited a day and
invited a friend over to my place&#226;€&#166;then I did another shot of 600mcg (split
bilaterally, 300mcg into each leg, as a subcutaneous shot). Then we sat around
and waited, with a bunch of simple carbs ready. I got hungry, I was
uncomfortable, and it wasn&#226;€™t too much fun, but we sat there for a good couple
of hours, and I didn&#226;€™t pass out (in case you&#226;€™re wondering, the friend was
there to drive me to the hospital, in case I actually did pass out). Ok&#226;€&#166;so
that settles that. Originally, I thought that maybe GHRP-6 operated by inducing
some kind of mild hypoglycemia (hypoglycemia increases GH output). But that&#226;€™s
not how it actually works&#226;€&#166;

Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide- 6 (GHRP-6) is a synthetic hexapeptide which
stimulates the release of Growth Hormone. It accomplishes this by two totally
separate mechanisms. On the one hand, it amplifies your body&#226;€™s natural Growth
Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) signal transduction pathway, and on the other
hand, acts as a functional antagonist of the hormone which causes inhibition of
GH secretion (somatostatin) (1-3).

GHRP-6 also has the benefit of being able to directly stimulate the anterior
pituitary gland, resulting in increased GH release. So although my initial
thoughts on the mechanism of action for this stuff was wrong, I was enthused
when my research revealed that GHRP-6 induced GH secretion occurs by several
mechanisms. Most importantly, those mechanisms are the induction of GHRH release
from the hypothalamus, stimulation of GH release from somatotrophs, joint
actions of GHRH and antagonism of somatostatin, and finally by pronounced
antagonism of somatostatin action on somatotrophs (1-4). However, it bears
clarification that GHRP-6 is not dependant on the GHRH pathway&#226;€&#166;it can boost
your growth hormone levels without necessarily needing to elevate GHRH. This is
important because if that pathway has been inhibited by long term GH use, GHRP-6
can still get your body producing and releasing GH.

Additionally, this peptide can also act on the central nervous system, which can
provide added benefits in neuroprotection as well as muscular strength increases
for the user. Much of the strength increases we see with Anabolic Steroids in
the Dihydrotestosterone family are suspected to be through a similar stimulation
of the Central Nervous System. In my experience with GHRP-6 use, strength levels
typically go up within the first week of starting out.

Increases in Growth Hormone levels in the body are typically accompanied by
strength increases, muscle hypertrophy (growth), and lipolysis (fat loss). Other
results experienced with increased GH levels are recuperative effects on joints
and injuries; connective tissue strengthening and bone mineral density
improvements are commonplace. Enhanced GH secretion also leads to the liver
secreting more IGF-1 (Insulin-Like Growth Factor 1), which is thought to be the
primary anabolic mechanism of action for Growth Hormone. In the case of GHRP-6,
I gained quite a bit of weight when I was running it at the 600mcg/day level. I
think that this was probably due to overfeeding that almost always accompanied
my shot contributed to this weight gain. I gained about 12lbs in 2 weeks. I
think that the same way people often throw EQ into bulking cycles to increase
appetite stimulation, I would suggest using GHRP-6 instead. It&#226;€™s not anywhere
near as anabolic, but the appetite increase is far a!
bove anything I&#226;€™ve ever experienced with any anabolics.

The women I know who have used GHRP-6 all had to discontinue its use because it
was making them gain weight too quickly. But then again, most of the women who I
know are national level (or professional) physique competitors, and at most need
an additional 5-10lbs of muscle at most. GHRP-6 just put too much weight on them
too quickly.

After experimenting with GHRP-6 for weight gain, I lowered the dose
substantially and used it to help rehab a knee injury that had been bothering me
for a couple of years. In this case, I lowered it to 100mcg/day, shot sub-q into
the knee (ouch!). At this dose you won&#226;€™t find the extreme hunger that a high
dose of it usually causes, and a 5mg bottle of GHRP-6 is going to last for
months, and I&#226;€™m confidant that it&#226;€™s going to be enough to rehab virtually
any injury (in my case, I had done extensive damage to my knee over the years,
culminating in a traumatic injury playing on turf&#226;€&#166;which resulted in my
semi-retirement from competitive athletics). Anyway, I combined GHRP-6 with a
knee rehab protocol designed by Eric Cressey, M.A. C.S.C.S., and advice from one
of my research assistants, who has a degree in Sports Medicine. Taken this way,
I used GHRP-6, and rehabbed my knee to almost where it was prior to my beginning
my career in athletics. If you have an injury, find you!
rself a good rehab protocol, and try a low dose of GHRP-6. I bet you&#226;€™ll be
surprised.

Oh&#226;€&#166;and this brings me to another point. I&#226;€™m sure most people subscribe to
the theory that peptides only last for a couple of weeks in their reconstituted
form. Well, after I had my GHRP-6 reconstituted for well over a month, I tried a
shot at my old 600mcg dose, and guess what happened? Yeah, I got a huge increase
in appetite within the hour. This tells me that we&#226;€™re really underestimating
the amount of time that a reconstituted peptide can retain its potency. I&#226;€™m
betting we have months, not weeks.

Since GHRP-6 acts directly on the feedback loop which signals the inhibition of
GH release, it has been used immediately following either GH or IGF-1 cycles, to
recover natural GH production by inhibiting somatostatin action. It has also
been used concurrently with those compounds to negate some of the effects of
those compounds on natural GH production. Most people who use IGF never actually
realize that as IGF is part of the hormonal cascade that GH initiates, it is
also part of the Negative feedback loop for it.

Typical doses of GHRP-6 range from 100mcg/day injected subcutaneously (for
connective tissue strengthening) to 500mcg/day (for an anabolic effect). After
experimentation with a wide variety of doses, and input from several people who
have also used the product, I think that 500mcg/day is the upper limit of
effective dosing for GHRP-6.

The most rapid side effect experienced with GHRP-6 is extreme hunger, which
typically occurs within an hour of injection. This could be due to a possible
effect on blood sugar lowering, or more likely (I suspect) due to its influence
on Ghrelin (5), stimulated by the peptide influenced release of GH. Ghrelin, by
the way, increases appetite and speeds gastric emptying. This means&#226;€&#166;even if
you weren&#226;€™t hungry a second ago, and your Ghrelin levels go up too
much&#226;€&#166;you&#226;€™ll be starving soon.

If I were looking to figure out the best way to use GHRP-6 in a bulking cycle, I
would simply take my favorite bulking cycle, and run GHRP-6 with it at a daily
dose of 600mcg/day, shot post-workout. The reason for the post-workout dosing is
to take advantage of the appetite stimulating properties, at the same time as
taking maximum advantage of the anabolic properties of the GH release that it
will cause. And I&#226;€™d probably consider using some insulin as well, because
insulin is highly anabolic on its own, but also because the GH response to
GHRP-6 is elevated with concurrent use of insulin (6). Again, this is only how
I&#226;€™d do it personally, and I&#226;€™m sure people will experiment with things and
find the optimal way to get the results they want on an individual basis. GHRP-6
and this is no exaggeration, will put as much weight on you as nearly any
steroid. If you&#226;€™re not careful, you&#226;€™ll gain too much fat&#226;€&#166;my recommendation
is to use this stuff on your off season bulking !
cycles.

Overall, I was pretty impressed with GHRP-6, in my experience with it. Its
ability to put weight on me was actually too potent, although the strength gains
were nice. Now, I&#226;€™ll mostly use GHRP-6 for post cycle therapy from IGF use, or
when I need to get rid of an injury.


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[cdnsoldier]

My joints are fubar. I want to give this a go as well. Keep the info coming.

You won't regret it. I was expecting Deca like "alleviation" of joint pain but it went beyond that.

I don't know the science behind it but let's put it this way- Now I know what the 6 million dollar man felt like. It builds your joints and ligamnents better and stronger. I would love to see teh science behind it but the street evidence is that is does something to make a broken body feel young again.

[Proteinkiller]

this post made me not want to try cjc
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4535688

[monkey]

this post made me not want to try cjc
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4535688

I can't view this thread for some reason- what does it say?/ Can you sumarize or copy and paste please?

[gsxr750]

Originally Posted by dak290

About a year ago I used the CJC-1295 peptide. Two month before that I had gotten a concussion playing football and had an initial CAT scan then a follow up MRI (with and without contrast). Everything was normal (no tumor or abnormalities of any kind). About three months ago, after some abnormalities in my blood work, my endo Doc sent me for some additional testing. The results of that testing led him to do another MRI (with and without contrast) which showed a massive pituitary tumor this last Tuesday. He told me this growth must have taken years to develop. I told him about my recent brain scans and he said then may have missed it. He order the previous scans and looked over it and said that nothing was missed and that he had never seen a pituitary tumor grow so fast. He refered me to a oncologist and he also said the same thing. I know CJC-1295 acts directly on the pituitary gland which is roughly the size of a pea (mine now is the size of a baseball). I do not know if the CJC-1295 is the cause of, or even related to my tumor, but I thought I would post this information. All of this is unknown. Just sharing my thoughts.

Dak



He's in a wheelchair now after surgery..



For any who care: I have made no significant progress since my last update. Hopes of my condition being transient grow less by the day. But still hope lingers and I remain. And to clarify, my tumor was a GH secreting pituitary macro adenoma.

[hyperlite32]

I read that on another board. Sad and scary..

[Ritch]

Originally Posted by dak290

About a year ago I used the CJC-1295 peptide. Two month before that I had gotten a concussion playing football and had an initial CAT scan then a follow up MRI (with and without contrast). Everything was normal (no tumor or abnormalities of any kind). About three months ago, after some abnormalities in my blood work, my endo Doc sent me for some additional testing. The results of that testing led him to do another MRI (with and without contrast) which showed a massive pituitary tumor this last Tuesday. He told me this growth must have taken years to develop. I told him about my recent brain scans and he said then may have missed it. He order the previous scans and looked over it and said that nothing was missed and that he had never seen a pituitary tumor grow so fast. He refered me to a oncologist and he also said the same thing. I know CJC-1295 acts directly on the pituitary gland which is roughly the size of a pea (mine now is the size of a baseball). I do not know if the CJC-1295 is the cause of, or even related to my tumor, but I thought I would post this information. All of this is unknown. Just sharing my thoughts.

Dak



He's in a wheelchair now after surgery..



For any who care: I have made no significant progress since my last update. Hopes of my condition being transient grow less by the day. But still hope lingers and I remain. And to clarify, my tumor was a GH secreting pituitary macro adenoma.

Holy shit man! Well the leaner you get the slower the progress will occur, but I`m sure you know that. Looking pretty lean in your avatar pic, people who haven`t seen you in a while must freak out!

But that`s some scarry news about the pituatary. Makes we wonder if I really want to use the peptide I was thinking of using. My pituatary may be ****ed as well as I once went to the doc when I was feeling really bad. The one time I ever checked myself in for feeling headsick. Could barely walk on my own. He told me my pituatary was just dangling there, not in the staight up position it should be if I understood correctly. I never got the tests done he said I should, but on a side note was doing GHB on a daily baisis during that time like 4-6 doses a day and more on weekends. Maybe he was just holding the graph upside down?