Guy fixing my sister's Laminate floor...to expensive?

[Definate]

So my sister bought a condo and as usual she will spend more money than necessary to a simple solution. She got a quote (from this over priced contractor in my opinion).

The job is a Laminate Floor....(not real wood). Colour is Ebony Oak.
Sqaure feet of flooring to be installed is = 53
The floor know is bare concrete. We removed the old rug that was there.
The guy quoted her $4000.00 for the job and an additional $500.00 for the baseboarding. Which is the most easiest job for any of you who might be in this line of work might already know. What a prick can't even put in a baseboard for all that money too. He has to charge more?

What do you all think....overpriced, ripped off?
I say so.

[Definate]

Square feet of flooring to be installed is 405
not 53. Sorry all.

[RagingRandy]

$10\sq. ft. installed is too much unless the flooring material is gold leaf. That click flooring goes down quick. I have done a few of these and you can do 400 sq. ft. in a day easily.

[cog]

$500 for baseboards?Get more quotes.

[BMac]

help your sister install it, she'll save a ton of money if you do the work yourself, and it's extremely easy to do

[Definate]

$10\sq. ft. installed is too much unless the flooring material is gold leaf. That click flooring goes down quick. I have done a few of these and you can do 400 sq. ft. in a day easily.

The guy told my sister the material is $810.00 for this job. So that means he's gonna make $3700.00 in labour for a day?
this is not real wood flooring...it is "Laminate" (appearance of wood)
he's got a couple of assistants working for him too...i think.
**** that

[BMac]

Laminate can actually be really nice, and it doesn't scratch up as easily as wood flooring

[Definate]

Laminate can actually be really nice, and it doesn't scratch up as easily as wood flooring

Yeah Laminate is nice but not worth the $4500 price tag.

[Pec]

Really depends, is the guy installing a sub floor as well? I think standard is around $4 a sq ft for installation with a subfloor, so at $4/sq for installation, then what's the laminate worth? That can very from like $1 to $10 a sq/ft depends how nice she's going (if I get your math right from the $810 that means he's charging her for like $1.20 a sq ft, and 0.80 cents a sq/ft for the subfloor?)

So $2500-3k would be the more standard price for that job, but it all depends on how expensive the laminate is on its own that she picked.

If he's charging you for a subfloor, do that yourself, its wicked easy and only takes like a day. (if he's not putting a subfloor on top of concrete then he probably doesn't know what he's doing anyways)

Should always get at least three quotes for flooring, especially if you think the price is too high.

Is $500 bucks for new baseboards? or pulling the baseboards off and repainting/adjusting the old ones? That doesn't sound bad, but he's way off on just the regular install, even home depot would be cheaper.

Just my two cents anyways.

[Definate]

Really depends, is the guy installing a sub floor as well? I think standard is around $4 a sq ft for installation with a subfloor, so at $4/sq for installation, then what's the laminate worth? That can very from like $1 to $10 a sq/ft depends how nice she's going (if I get your math right from the $810 that means he's charging her for like $1.20 a sq ft, and 0.80 cents a sq/ft for the subfloor?)

So $2500-3k would be the more standard price for that job, but it all depends on how expensive the laminate is on its own that she picked.

If he's charging you for a subfloor, do that yourself, its wicked easy and only takes like a day. (if he's not putting a subfloor on top of concrete then he probably doesn't know what he's doing anyways)

Should always get at least three quotes for flooring, especially if you think the price is too high.

Is $500 bucks for new baseboards? or pulling the baseboards off and repainting/adjusting the old ones? That doesn't sound bad, but he's way off on just the regular install, even home depot would be cheaper.

Just my two cents anyways.

thanks for the feedback. All points of view are respected.
I saw this guys house tonight it looks like Victoria Gotti's. You ashamed to walk by it.
His wife don't work either. All that money from just installing floors for a living?

[Definate]

Really depends, is the guy installing a sub floor as well? I think standard is around $4 a sq ft for installation with a subfloor, so at $4/sq for installation, then what's the laminate worth? That can very from like $1 to $10 a sq/ft depends how nice she's going (if I get your math right from the $810 that means he's charging her for like $1.20 a sq ft, and 0.80 cents a sq/ft for the subfloor?)

So $2500-3k would be the more standard price for that job, but it all depends on how expensive the laminate is on its own that she picked.

If he's charging you for a subfloor, do that yourself, its wicked easy and only takes like a day. (if he's not putting a subfloor on top of concrete then he probably doesn't know what he's doing anyways)

Should always get at least three quotes for flooring, especially if you think the price is too high.

Is $500 bucks for new baseboards? or pulling the baseboards off and repainting/adjusting the old ones? That doesn't sound bad, but he's way off on just the regular install, even home depot would be cheaper.

Just my two cents anyways.

The baseboards stay I believe. They are pretty new as the condo is not old. He will install a "boarding" whatever the hell that is. Corner round is what I remember it being called way back when My dad was renovating his house by some other goons.

[Definate]

Really depends, is the guy installing a sub floor as well? I think standard is around $4 a sq ft for installation with a subfloor, so at $4/sq for installation, then what's the laminate worth? That can very from like $1 to $10 a sq/ft depends how nice she's going (if I get your math right from the $810 that means he's charging her for like $1.20 a sq ft, and 0.80 cents a sq/ft for the subfloor?)

So $2500-3k would be the more standard price for that job, but it all depends on how expensive the laminate is on its own that she picked.

If he's charging you for a subfloor, do that yourself, its wicked easy and only takes like a day. (if he's not putting a subfloor on top of concrete then he probably doesn't know what he's doing anyways)

Should always get at least three quotes for flooring, especially if you think the price is too high.

Is $500 bucks for new baseboards? or pulling the baseboards off and repainting/adjusting the old ones? That doesn't sound bad, but he's way off on just the regular install, even home depot would be cheaper.

Just my two cents anyways.


I just checked there is NO sub flooring being installed with this. The baseboards will stay, all he is adding for the extra $500 bucks is a "trim".

[Definate]

So, NO sub flooring. A floating floor is being installed. What the hell is that?

[steve_d]

I had my entire basement finished for about 10K, and that included the studs, ceiling, drywall, insulation, sink, toilet, electrical, plumbing, and 800sq. ft of laminate, plus paint, 3 doors, and all labor.

The only thing I did was paint my doors.

the 800$ for the 400 sq. ft of laminate is not that bad. I got mine on sale at rona, and it looks like hardwood - not that cheap looking laminate stuff. But 3000$ for labor? really? I paid 3500$ for the entire labor of finishing the entire basement. which took almost a month. 3000$ for a days work is a bit much.

[RagingRandy]

So, NO sub flooring. A floating floor is being installed. What the hell is that?

Floating means it is not secured to the material below it. This is a standard click floor install. It does need foam between the flooring and the concrete unless the laminate comes with a foam backing already.

[BAM]

I just had 3/4 inch maple floor installed (about 350square feet)

Cost over 3000 and no subfloor was required. (included quarter round)

This included refinishing the maple staircase treads and landing as well.

Labour is expensive so if you are not willing to learn how to do it yourself, then suck it up and pay for it. Labour is the most expensive aspect of any trade job.

Its funny how people tend to look down on trades people thinking they are not worth X dollars because they didnt go to college. They probably work harder than anyone with a college degree.

[Big D]

just do the flooring yourself, click flooring is very easy to do.

that contractor is way to pricey. for that area it shouldn't be more then 2k.

[Talo]

Do it yourself. You should see the quote we had (10,000$ ) for a small job. We did it ourself for $1000.

[Danger]

Why would you ever just get one quote from one person... call a few other people and see what they quote it at and then go from there. Its REALLY easy for Tile/Laminate/Hardwood to look complete shit if you dont understand what your doing.

[Definate]

Do it yourself. You should see the quote we had (10,000$ ) for a small job. We did it ourself for $1000.

awesome!

[Definate]

Its funny how people tend to look down on trades people thinking they are not worth X dollars because they didnt go to college. They probably work harder than anyone with a college degree.

What did I say that led you to this belief

[massmachine]

Buddy must be a border guard who does flooring on the side...

[LonelyBedouin]

I just had 3/4 inch maple floor installed (about 350square feet)

Cost over 3000 and no subfloor was required. (included quarter round)

This included refinishing the maple staircase treads and landing as well.

Labour is expensive so if you are not willing to learn how to do it yourself, then suck it up and pay for it. Labour is the most expensive aspect of any trade job.

Its funny how people tend to look down on trades people thinking they are not worth X dollars because they didnt go to college. They probably work harder than anyone with a college degree.

I just look down on them in general because there are so many dicks who look to rip people off when they can. Hell I installed new carpeting in my basement, I will never do it again cause it was a bitch and I will pay someone to do it before I even think of doing it myself. But I know when the guy comes to give me a quote he will purposely go higher then what he knows he can do it for hoping I dont say "well I have had other quotes for X amount of money." Other then that, I will never get into a trade because its damn hard work, just too many people out there praying on people who dont do their research.

[Danger]

^^ I think foolish uneducated people get taken advantage by more than just trades people, dont think there arent Dr's and Lawyers out there doing the exact same things... Thats just the way life is, you gotta look out for yourself cause it really isint anyone elses job is it.

[cog]

^^ I think foolish uneducated people get taken advantage by more than just trades people, dont think there arent Dr's and Lawyers out there doing the exact same things... Thats just the way life is, you gotta look out for yourself cause it really isint anyone elses job is it.

And accountants.OP needs more quotes about exactly what it is his sister is paying for.Some guys definately swing for the fences.

[LonelyBedouin]

^^ I think foolish uneducated people get taken advantage by more than just trades people, dont think there arent Dr's and Lawyers out there doing the exact same things... Thats just the way life is, you gotta look out for yourself cause it really isint anyone elses job is it.

O for sure. But I have dealt with more shady renovators then any other career type.

[Definate]

I just look down on them in general because there are so many dicks who look to rip people off when they can. Hell I installed new carpeting in my basement, I will never do it again cause it was a bitch and I will pay someone to do it before I even think of doing it myself. But I know when the guy comes to give me a quote he will purposely go higher then what he knows he can do it for hoping I dont say "well I have had other quotes for X amount of money." Other then that, I will never get into a trade because its damn hard work, just too many people out there praying on people who dont do their research.

This flooring contractor lives in a lavish Gotti house. I hear you.

[natenator]

This flooring contractor lives in a lavish Gotti house. I hear you.
Why does it matter where the **** he lives?

You should get over the fact that you obviously don't have a pot to piss in and that those who do, you know, maybe have some marketable skill that allows them to make a good living and just because you don't doesn't mean you should call him out because he does.

I have to wonder about you as it seems as though you're stalking the guy.

Either let your sister use him or don't but shut the **** up with your constant whining about what kind of home he lives in.

[Definate]

easy there natebomb. Stalk him? lol
no actually I went to his house to give him a deposit on behalf of my sis. Tell you what,
I can stalk you.......



Why does it matter where the **** he lives?

You should get over the fact that you obviously don't have a pot to piss in and that those who do, you know, maybe have some marketable skill that allows them to make a good living and just because you don't doesn't mean you should call him out because he does.

I have to wonder about you as it seems as though you're stalking the guy.

Either let your sister use him or don't but shut the **** up with your constant whining about what kind of home he lives in.

[LonelyBedouin]

easy there natebomb. Stalk him? lol
no actually I went to his house to give him a deposit on behalf of my sis. Tell you what,
I can stalk you.......

So why make the thread if you were just going to go with him anyways? I dont know how much shopping around you could have done in a day

[Definate]

Why does it matter where the **** he lives?

You should get over the fact that you obviously don't have a pot to piss in and that those who do, you know, maybe have some marketable skill that allows them to make a good living and just because you don't doesn't mean you should call him out because he does.

I have to wonder about you as it seems as though you're stalking the guy.

Either let your sister use him or don't but shut the **** up with your constant whining about what kind of home he lives in.

Pot to piss in....

No I have a HUGE OLIVE Farm in the mediterranean my frined.....30 acres
with 1500 + olives in there.


here take a look.

[Definate]

Interested to see more?
Those guys work for ME. Yes, nate I am an employer.

[Definate]

My old man watching the worker remove stones from my farm. Second pic is another smaller farm I have with 100 mature olive trees.

[Definate]

Another employee....
he's clearing out more land for my production.

[cog]

Red soil.Which country?

[Definate]

Red soil.Which country?

Greece.

Red soil is also found in PEI.

[Definate]

In the second last picture in post #31...you can see the peak of Taygetus Mountain (2404 m)
Not a bad view from my farm eh?
look at the snow at the peak...it is May for Christ sakes in that pic.
My dad is wearing clothing because he has a skin sensitivity to the strong sun.
That's why those guys are wearing t shirts, it's actaully pretty warm.

[Definate]

Big wheels keep on turning..............................

Making more Farm mine. lol
Forestry service cam in and told me if I had a license to do this and if the property I clearing was mine....I showed them land titles from 1897 to the present with all the same boundary lines....
They said sorry, carry on. lol
the haters don't wanna see me go ahead in the area. To them I'm just a ****in American that came there to show them up.

[Definate]

From the higher point here's a nice shot

[Definate]

trolls with my dad for a pic....
these 2 are hillarious

[Definate]

looking down at the spot the dozer was working in

[Definate]

Farm B down shot

[Definate]

I planted these trees with my bare hands three years ago (Nov 2007)

[Definate]

Dozer grading the lower farm land in 2 year old trees

[BAM]

Geez.. you'd think you'd be able to afford hardwood ;)

[cog]

Greece.

Red soil is also found in PEI.

I figured it might be Greece by the snow on the mountains and the kind of vest your dad was wearing.Believe me,PEI looks nothing like those pics.

[Sandwiches]

Geez.. you'd think you'd be able to afford hardwood ;)

:rofl

[Definate]

I figured it might be Greece by the snow on the mountains and the kind of vest your dad was wearing.Believe me,PEI looks nothing like those pics.

The green bushes on the mountains are: Evergreen Oak trees, their growth is controlled by the local habitat of free roaming goats from nearby farmers that munch on the shrubs thus keeping them from growing into huge trees.
Other greenery in area is: "Argan trees", "Lentisk", wild oregano e.t.c

[physique]

do it yourself. it so easy.

unless u are loaded and like pissing your money away

[cog]

What is the local water situation Definate?

[cog]

Lot of history in that area,from ancient to WWII.

[pw154]

So you bitch and moan about this guy charging 4k and go with him anyway. and what do pictures of a farm have to do with laminate flooring? gay thread

[ironwill]

So you bitch and moan about this guy charging 4k and go with him anyway. and what do pictures of a farm have to do with laminate flooring? gay thread

Small penis seems to be the root cause of this thread.....:) Look at me, hear me roar......meow!!:D

[GYMBRAT]

I learned a ton about BBing from this VERY INFORMATIVE thread :D

[Definate]

Small penis seems to be the root cause of this thread.....:) Look at me, hear me roar......meow!!:D

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