Many cycles done , first run with Gh

[beserker]

Well im finally taking the gh plunge. my goals for taking it is for general overall anti age shit and to mildly assist with fat loss. My questions are....2 iu's to start , perhaps to 3iu's enough for this purpose (im almost positive about this but...)? Secondly first thing in morning injects are the plan and will it do any harm if i eat shortly afterwards....(the meal consisting of either chocolate whey mixed with water or eggs and turkey bacon ...no carbs)? Thanks in advance as any advice will be greatly appreciated. Current goal , trim up a bit . 3500 clean cals \ day . Current stats ... 35 years old , 19 percent bf , 259 lbs , train 5-6 days \ week with 4 -30 min sessions of fasted cardio \ week . Cycle history = done 7 i think...last cycle was 18 weeks at 800 t-400\week , 500 eq\week , good pct as im horny as **** now hahaha. Thanks and sorry for the length

[MMASTAR]

With GH fat loss is topped out at 4 IU's, meaning anything above 4 IU's you will not see additional fat loss. First thing AM is good, should be 30 minutes between your GH and your first meal.

[beserker]

Thanks man , 21 views and you responded....much appreciated ! Im wanting to use it for general well being and anti-aging , the fat loss properties being a secondary bonus. Who knows when i go back on cycle i may up the dose considerably hehe.

[razorsedge]

With 4 ius, I'd split it to 2 in AM and 2 after workout...usually anything over 3 I split for better effect. Your being smart starting out at 2iu and seeing how that goes and go to 3 if you decide to...work up slowly...good luck.

[Praetorian]

2ius ED is more then enough for your goals. Take the GH with breakfast in the morning..the resultant IGF pulse from the GH helps shuttle what you just ate into the cells. In order to see fat loss however you will need to be on a very strict diet and I would also suggest daily cardio. GH by itself without changing diet or adding cardio will yield little results in fat loss.
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[Kilburn]

Well im finally taking the gh plunge. my goals for taking it is for general overall anti age shit and to mildly assist with fat loss. My questions are....2 iu's to start , perhaps to 3iu's enough for this purpose (im almost positive about this but...)? Secondly first thing in morning injects are the plan and will it do any harm if i eat shortly afterwards....(the meal consisting of either chocolate whey mixed with water or eggs and turkey bacon ...no carbs)? Thanks in advance as any advice will be greatly appreciated. Current goal , trim up a bit . 3500 clean cals \ day . Current stats ... 35 years old , 19 percent bf , 259 lbs , train 5-6 days \ week with 4 -30 min sessions of fasted cardio \ week . Cycle history = done 7 i think...last cycle was 18 weeks at 800 t-400\week , 500 eq\week , good pct as im horny as **** now hahaha. Thanks and sorry for the length

gh is strong, i never went over 2.5 IU and i really noticed the effects even at this "low dose". gh + gear feals about twice as strong as just gear alone - crazy pumps and vascularity. i cant even imagin adding insulin too. i was bulked up to 220 on just gear alone and with gh i cut down to 200 and kept ALL of my strength, judging from the mirror i even made some solid mass gains. my weight went down but i gained muscle. and that was all in five weeks. i dont know why people say it takes 6 months to get results from GH. i started to notice changes after the second week.

[#8]

^^ me too. nothing drastic, but i could feel it and see it for sure. especially in terms of a pump in the gym. it was unreal

It had to be pretty good stuff i was on....

[MMASTAR]

2ius ED is more then enough for your goals. Take the GH with breakfast in the morning..the resultant IGF pulse from the GH helps shuttle what you just ate into the cells. In order to see fat loss however you will need to be on a very strict diet and I would also suggest daily cardio. GH by itself without changing diet or adding cardio will yield little results in fat loss.
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So GH with food is ok? in most cases I have read the opposite.

Beserker, are you planning on just running some blue's or something a little better?

[Odysseus]

Depends on what kind of GH you actually use. 2iu ed is already perfection, but ONLY if you're using pharm grade American stuff. If it's generic Chinese gh, you'll need much higher amounts. I personally run 10iu ed if I'm using the Chinese stuff, as opposed to needing only 2iu of the American brands. For example, when MMAStar mentioned blues, those are absolute crap once you've had some legit pharm grade American stuff. The only thing close to being as good would be the Chinese green tops. Those are much stronger than the blues and usually more expensive.

GH was the first thing I ever used BEFORE I ever used gear, and I have to say it was a life changing experience for me. I basically lost an unbelievable amount of fat, gained lean muscle, developed a great outlook on life and became a much more positive person instead of being such a killjoy all the time. It's a huge plus for improved sense of well being. Your appetite will also be increased greatly. You'll be able to eat pizza and ice cream once in a while without having to worry too much about fat gain. God I love GH.

[beserker]

Ya unfortunately all i could grab were the blues...first go around with so we'll see how it pans out....ill try 2 iu's for a month then go 3 for a month and so on till i find the happy spot.Thanks for all of the replies and help !!

[Praetorian]

So GH with food is ok? in most cases I have read the opposite.

Beserker, are you planning on just running some blue's or something a little better?

That is how you are supposed to take it...i hate to be the bearer of bad news but you read wrong. The idea is to utilize the IGF pulse from the liver mediated by the exogenous GH to push macronutrients into the cells. GH is best taken with food during your most catabolic times...ie morning and post workout.
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[Praetorian]

Depends on what kind of GH you actually use. 2iu ed is already perfection, but ONLY if you're using pharm grade American stuff. If it's generic Chinese gh, you'll need much higher amounts. I personally run 10iu ed if I'm using the Chinese stuff, as opposed to needing only 2iu of the American brands. For example, when MMAStar mentioned blues, those are absolute crap once you've had some legit pharm grade American stuff. The only thing close to being as good would be the Chinese green tops. Those are much stronger than the blues and usually more expensive.

GH was the first thing I ever used BEFORE I ever used gear, and I have to say it was a life changing experience for me. I basically lost an unbelievable amount of fat, gained lean muscle, developed a great outlook on life and became a much more positive person instead of being such a killjoy all the time. It's a huge plus for improved sense of well being. Your appetite will also be increased greatly. You'll be able to eat pizza and ice cream once in a while without having to worry too much about fat gain. God I love GH.

2iu for his goals using a decent Chinese brand is more than enough. Not all Chinese is weak....some is just as good as pharm...10iu is overkill for his goals.
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[ironwill]

Depends on what kind of GH you actually use. 2iu ed is already perfection, but ONLY if you're using pharm grade American stuff. If it's generic Chinese gh, you'll need much higher amounts. I personally run 10iu ed if I'm using the Chinese stuff, as opposed to needing only 2iu of the American brands. For example, when MMAStar mentioned blues, those are absolute crap once you've had some legit pharm grade American stuff. The only thing close to being as good would be the Chinese green tops. Those are much stronger than the blues and usually more expensive.

GH was the first thing I ever used BEFORE I ever used gear, and I have to say it was a life changing experience for me. I basically lost an unbelievable amount of fat, gained lean muscle, developed a great outlook on life and became a much more positive person instead of being such a killjoy all the time. It's a huge plus for improved sense of well being. Your appetite will also be increased greatly. You'll be able to eat pizza and ice cream once in a while without having to worry too much about fat gain. God I love GH.
Did you have low levels of natural occurring gh???

Also as #8 and mma pointed out....I feel it within a few days as far as pumps and full feeling, happens real fast....Fat loss didnt take months either....as soon as i tighten up diet a bit, it flows off, then i get more loose on diet, takes a lot more to get visible fat showing....I think it is awesome stuff....

[ironwill]

That is how you are supposed to take it...i hate to be the bearer of bad news but you read wrong. The idea is to utilize the IGF pulse from the liver mediated by the exogenous GH to push macronutrients into the cells. GH is best taken with food during your most catabolic times...ie morning and post workout.
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I take mine post workout, and in the am also....Its crazy how many different ways folks take gh????Makes my brain hurt...

[Mr Ontario]

You keep mentioning American Human grade brand. what's wrong with Canadian Human Grade GH or just Human Grade period. Does it need to be American? :)


Depends on what kind of GH you actually use. 2iu ed is already perfection, but ONLY if you're using pharm grade American stuff. If it's generic Chinese gh, you'll need much higher amounts. I personally run 10iu ed if I'm using the Chinese stuff, as opposed to needing only 2iu of the American brands. For example, when MMAStar mentioned blues, those are absolute crap once you've had some legit pharm grade American stuff. The only thing close to being as good would be the Chinese green tops. Those are much stronger than the blues and usually more expensive.

GH was the first thing I ever used BEFORE I ever used gear, and I have to say it was a life changing experience for me. I basically lost an unbelievable amount of fat, gained lean muscle, developed a great outlook on life and became a much more positive person instead of being such a killjoy all the time. It's a huge plus for improved sense of well being. Your appetite will also be increased greatly. You'll be able to eat pizza and ice cream once in a while without having to worry too much about fat gain. God I love GH.

[MMASTAR]

Prae, you are by far the biggest asset to this board.

[#8]

^^ Im clearly the biggest asset here. Everyone knows that.

Prae is a close 2nd for sure.

:)

[GYMBRAT]

Depends on what kind of GH you actually use. 2iu ed is already perfection, but ONLY if you're using pharm grade American stuff. If it's generic Chinese gh, you'll need much higher amounts. I personally run 10iu ed if I'm using the Chinese stuff, as opposed to needing only 2iu of the American brands. For example, when MMAStar mentioned blues, those are absolute crap once you've had some legit pharm grade American stuff. The only thing close to being as good would be the Chinese green tops. Those are much stronger than the blues and usually more expensive.

GH was the first thing I ever used BEFORE I ever used gear, and I have to say it was a life changing experience for me. I basically lost an unbelievable amount of fat, gained lean muscle, developed a great outlook on life and became a much more positive person instead of being such a killjoy all the time. It's a huge plus for improved sense of well being. Your appetite will also be increased greatly. You'll be able to eat pizza and ice cream once in a while without having to worry too much about fat gain. God I love GH.

awesome post bro!!! but I think it is dependent on who the gh is coming from here in Canada

[purelife]

How many IUs should someone take a day for building Mass??

[theboss]

How many IUs should someone take a day for building Mass??

4+ i think

4iu being a starting point

[theboss]

not to jack the thread, but i have my wife on 1iu ED of Canadian HGH and we are both noticing changes...after 10iu (10 days) she is noticing the skin on her face lookin better, less wrinkles etc and some added energy, going to run it at 1iu for a kit..then go from there to 1.5iu if needed or stay at 1iu ...we'll see

[gregdoucette]

Purelife, its pretty much the more u use the more results u get to a point. Most guys into it hardcore are using 10 IU a day. Most figure girls are using 1 IU a day. to gain mass though ur definetely goign to notice 3 a day but 6 a dayh is going to show a big diff. from 3 a day. SO basically it really depends on funds and how much ur into it or if its just a passtime.

[purelife]

Thx Greg that's what I though I'll start with 6ius a day 3 in the morning and 3 right after the gym I'll be running it with 1200mg of test and 900mg deca and 100mg of anadrol :))))

[Praetorian]

Thx Greg that's what I though I'll start with 6ius a day 3 in the morning and 3 right after the gym I'll be running it with 1200mg of test and 900mg deca and 100mg of anadrol :))))

If its real you are asking for trouble starting at 6iu...you want to work up to that over a few weeks. I started at 4iu per day on Jins and could barely bench due to the carpal....drop it to 2iu per day and raise it 1iu per week or so.
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[purelife]

Praetorian--- yeah I will start with 2ius a day and work my way up
thx for the help bro much appreciated

[drdnj]

^^ Im clearly the biggest asset here. Everyone knows that.

Prae is a close 2nd for sure.

:)


Prae = ASSET

#8= ASS****

JK

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