Age Extension vs Bodybuilding

[tiramisu]

It seems like there is a real negative for us folk who like muscle. When you look at 2 of the known ways of extending lifespan.

1) Caloric restriction: life long caloric restriction extends the lifespan of mice dramatically.

2) Rapamycin: Inhibits TOR which is involved in protein synthesis.

Again, it SEEMS like the only way of currently extending lifespan is to slow down the cell replication process.

The anti-thesis of bodybuilding. If cells have a finite number of replications before they simply don't work anymore then as bodybuilders we are effectively reducing our lifespan by stimulating increased cell turnover.

Now doesn't that suck?

[BAM]

I think life after 65 is probably over-rated and besides that, who knows.. you might just be putting off your reincarnation and dragging out your geezer years for nothing when you could be starting all over in a fresh pink fetus.

I have seen these people that calorie and meat restrict to live longer, and quite frankly.. they look like aids victims.

[GYMBRAT]

short and sweet.....LAME imo!!!

[cog]

Jack Lalanne still looks pretty good.

[cog]

At some point you will have to get smaller.

[dainbramaged]

Funny when I hear stuff like that. Then I remember that George Burns smoked cigars and drank a fair amount and lived to be 100. Jack is 96 and has been into the physical culture for decades...

[Forever]

Quality of life>Quantity of life.

I would prefer to live an active lifestyle to the age of 80 because I have enough muscle mass to get out of bed and walk then live to be one of these decrepit wheelchair ridden 95 year olds who has to have someone feed me, wash me and clean my bed pan.

From people I have known, family genetics still seems to be the primary deciding factor anyways. You can't out run your genes.

[cog]

Yeah,but we see an awful lot of people that don't give their genes much of a chance.

[cog]

I saw a pic of this 70 year old on the cover of a geriatric mag or something like that,guy had been working out all his life.He looked really good,still had some mass.Likely somewhat assisted,but who cares.

[warlock]

Genes are the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger

[ta-kid]

There is more to living longer then the physical limitations.Your state of mind plays a huge part,just like it does in training.
As well as genes ,DNA,lifestyle and on and on and on.Proably most of us eat too much anyways.LOL

[megwell]

i saw a show on oprah or dr. phil............. yeah yeah........ i watch them sometimes lol
but anyhow...... the calorie restriction diet.......... was very low calories...... and a person was in the audience who was pointed out by a doctor claims that the person in the audience who is on that diet could be the first person to live to 150 years old.

[Andre Gregoire]

Another strategy for life extension is methionine restriction which also inhibits muscle protein synthesis.

The problem is a caloric surplus often causes high insulin levels and even if you are eating a hypercaloric keto diet it will most likely still increase systematic inflammation.

Also anything that promotes protein synthesis can also promote the growth of tumors and cancers so if your cells don't undergo programmed cell death then the protein synthesis may cause the cancerous cells to grow. If your apoptosis is functioning normally and you have no tumors you should be fine but that's a big if...

Systematic inflammation has been associated to all forms of lifestyle diseases so if you focus on keeping that down you are are greatly improving your odds.

My strategy is to:

-not use any growth factors like AAS/Peptides
-take my fish oil, vitamin d, r-ala, green tea
-eat lots of fibrous vegetables and berries
-keep my carbs pretty low and low glycemic
-keep healthy fats moderate (omega3 and mono's)
-keep calories pretty low most of the year
-get plenty sleep
-don't smoke and limit alcohol consumption
-plan out time to relax
-reduce stimulants / salt /sugar consumption
-Do both cardio and weight lifting

The main thing you can do to live a long healthy life is maintain a lean body and keep calories reasonable. There is no reason to consume 5-6000 calories per day unless you are a lean 250lbs and bulking IMO.

Most people are too fat, eat too many calories and not enough protein, healthy fats and veggies. The key to the caloric restriction diet is Caloric Restriction with Optimal Nutrition so hypo-caloric but hyper-nutritiive.

[monkey]

I had this conversation with my brother recently.. ( non bodybuilder).

And it came down to..

Even if the way I eat ( when bodybuilding) is "unhealthy" .. it keeps me from being way unhealthier.

I drink way less, eat way less fast food and crap, less sugar, prevent's me to a certain extent from picking up smoking again, makes me follow a more structure lifestyle ( e.g. sleeping patterns, less full blown nights out).
Most importantly, my diet is way better when lifting.

When not lifting ( like I am currently due to work... ), my nutrition flops, work life balance flops, stress levels seem to be higher.

So yeah, put it the way you want. To me, lifting weights, eating the way we do, has had a positivie overall net effect and I'm sure I'll live healther and longer that way.

[cog]

Most of us can go 70-75 years healthy and strong if you eat good food,keep your belly from getting big and get daily physical exertion for more than just a few minutes.After that it's a lottery.