How to "fake" a blood test to get script for GH?

[#8]

Hypothetically of course. Nobody would ever actually do this...

Now before anyone feels the need to flame me over this, let me explain something. I have been battling brutally serious insomnia and sleep apnea for roughly 10+ years now. I have used every OTC herbal, or "bro science" remedy supplement to try and fix this with no useful result at all. I have been prescribed several different sleeping pills that seem to work poorly at best.

Last year I was able to get my hands on some Somatropin that I ran for roughly 5 weeks in hopes of aiding a bad injury in my left quad more quickly. I noticed around week 2 into a 3iu a day dose that my sleeps were DRASTICALLY improving in quality, without an improvement in duration. This was a godsend for me for the remainder of the cycle, only to return to piss poor sleep as soon as I ended the injections.

Now, with my knowledge of this miracle sleep medicine, I REALLY want to get my hands on a script for it to hopefully use it for life at a low dose so I can sleep like a normal person and not constantly walk around like a lifeless zombie with no purpose on this earth.

I have been recommended by a very reputable to source to try the following methods on my upcoming test:

Get little sleep (shouldnt be an issue)
Eat some junk food
Take some stimulants
Avoid training for several days / a week prior to test

Anyone feel like they can add anything to this to make sure if anybody ever tried this test, they would fail it miserably?

[fathead]

do you have medical coverage that will take care of gh? i know a couple with scripts and it is so friggin expensive they both swapped to black market when their coverage lapsed

[gicantor]

I think you age will be the biggest issue. Even if bloodwork comes back slightly low he/she will still probably not perscribe it.

But no, I have no idea how to get around a blood test.

[JonnyO]

Unless you are fully covered by your insurance for GH you will be paying around $1300 for 90iu or so.

If you want quality sleep look into other peptides like GHRH and GHRP's, they will make you sleep like a baby and are way cheaper than any GH. A lot of people use them just for that reason it helps them sleep and other health benefits. I am a good sleeper myself, but in these I am out like a light until its time for me to wake up, I dont even wake up to go to the bathroom anymore.

[evoke]

Reminds me of the scene in "Bigger Stronger Faster" when he got a prescription for hgh.
If you ever live in US, you could try what he did.
In Canada, it's extremely hard to get a prescription for hgh.

[#8]

Im already on HRT and im only 26. I have an endo who is very open to ideas. My university covers 80% of even my HRT. I figured if a kit was around $1000 or so it would only end up running me $200. For the benefits I saw in terms of sleep I would gladly pay $200 a month.

I am really at my wits end and I am actually becoming depressed over this consistent sleeplessness bullshit. I NEED TO ****ING SLEEP.

[moh2010]

Im already on HRT and im only 26. I have an endo who is very open to ideas. My university covers 80% of even my HRT. I figured if a kit was around $1000 or so it would only end up running me $200. For the benefits I saw in terms of sleep I would gladly pay $200 a month.

I am really at my wits end and I am actually becoming depressed over this consistent sleeplessness bullshit. I NEED TO ****ING SLEEP.

did you tried Prescription Sleep Aid such as ambien?

[JonnyO]

Im already on HRT and im only 26. I have an endo who is very open to ideas. My university covers 80% of even my HRT. I figured if a kit was around $1000 or so it would only end up running me $200. For the benefits I saw in terms of sleep I would gladly pay $200 a month.

I am really at my wits end and I am actually becoming depressed over this consistent sleeplessness bullshit. I NEED TO ****ING SLEEP.

Seriously look into the peptides I mentioned bro.

[Mr Ontario]

For your depression get your self a script for Novo-Mirtazapine. This will help with your sleep as well your depression. For your sleep apnea, get yourself a Sleep machine. I can assure you you won't get a script for GH or everyone would have one by now as well. Also if you call your University in regards to coverage, I bet they do not even cover you as well for GH. I have the best coverage in the world and they do not cover it. Other then that, allot of people have tried what your requesting and have gotten no where.


Im already on HRT and im only 26. I have an endo who is very open to ideas. My university covers 80% of even my HRT. I figured if a kit was around $1000 or so it would only end up running me $200. For the benefits I saw in terms of sleep I would gladly pay $200 a month.

I am really at my wits end and I am actually becoming depressed over this consistent sleeplessness bullshit. I NEED TO ****ING SLEEP.

[Sandwiches]

I NEED TO ****ING SLEEP.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LKVZ4NTfUc

[Sean Summers]

Do you have a CPAP machine?
SS

[#8]

^^^^Ive been in the process of getting one for over a year now. It takes a boatload of paper work and several sleep studies with follow up appointments.

I have another study coming up in January then a follow up in March I believe. I would give anything to have a good nights sleep at least 5 nights a week. I walk around every day feeling like a zombie, and Im really starting to not give a shit about anything or anyone. Its ****ed up.

[Sean Summers]

What are you talking about? I think I did 2 sleep studies - actually I think it was only 1 in Sarnia. Not sure why they are putting you through the ringer on this one. I got the CPAP machine - costs about $300 from Vital Aire. All machines are covered by OHIP so you only pay about $300 regardless how much the machine actually is. I had my wife's insurance cover the remaining $300 so I'm sure your student insurance will cover most of it too. Too bad they are dragging it out for you.
SS

[BBbox]

I walk around every day feeling like a zombie, and Im really starting to not give a shit about anything or anyone. Its ****ed up.

It sounds like the depression may be causing the lack of sleep- not the other way around.

You should seriously go see a doctor and look into going to therapy. Depression is no joke dude.

Maybe contact a different sleep clinic as well that could help you out with getting a machine faster.

[JonnyO]

What are you talking about? I think I did 2 sleep studies - actually I think it was only 1 in Sarnia. Not sure why they are putting you through the ringer on this one. I got the CPAP machine - costs about $300 from Vital Aire. All machines are covered by OHIP so you only pay about $300 regardless how much the machine actually is. I had my wife's insurance cover the remaining $300 so I'm sure your student insurance will cover most of it too. Too bad they are dragging it out for you.
SS

For me they said Id get one after one nights testing, but apparently I didnt need it so that was good. I dont see why it should take so long esp if you need it.

[maxpower]

If you have a sleep disorder such as sleep apnea, I strongly suggest you get a sleep study done as your first step. There is no suppliment including hgh that will treat sleep apnea...it is almost always caused by an obstruction such as enlarged tonsils, uvula and/or soft palate tissue. Sleep apnea is normally treated with a c-pap or bipap machine/mask (creates a continuous flow of air via a mask to keep the obstruction open), UPPP (surgical removal of obstruction), a dental device if the issue is with how your jaw rests, and sometimes with proper pillow (in very mild cases). Sleep Apnea is a very serious condition that can cause hyper tension, stroke, heart attack, memory loss, insomnia, poor quality of life for you and those around you, etc, etc. You essentially stop breathing several times per hour hour which stresses your heart and causes low blood oxygen levels....and you never reach REM sleep. Coincidentally, I suffer from sleep apnea as well and am home recovering from surgery as I respond to this post. I had my tonsils, soft palate, and uvula removed on the 18th. The bipap machine didnt work for me and I had no choice but surgery. So...I STRONGLY suggest you get a sleep study done as your first step. Good luck

[maxpower]

sorry...didnt notice that you had a sleep study done.

[CreatineAmonster]

What are you talking about? I think I did 2 sleep studies - actually I think it was only 1 in Sarnia. Not sure why they are putting you through the ringer on this one. I got the CPAP machine - costs about $300 from Vital Aire. All machines are covered by OHIP so you only pay about $300 regardless how much the machine actually is. I had my wife's insurance cover the remaining $300 so I'm sure your student insurance will cover most of it too. Too bad they are dragging it out for you.
SS

Same here I had a sleep study done here in windsor and had a machine within a week. How many times an hour did they say you stop breathing ????

[Mr Ontario]

Not that hard to get a sleep study or a machine. Sounds someone could care less if he gets one as it does not take that long.

[#8]

^^ they changed the rules this year in ontario about how much time must take place between sleep studies. you arent allowed to do them in the same 12 months anymore apparently. ive been waiting a LONG ****ing time for this thing with all the appointments and follow ups ive had to go to.

such a red tape ****ing nightmare. i just want to sleep already. ****.

[Mr Ontario]

I can assure you there is more then one Sleep clinic in Ontario. there is one in Toronto you can go to. Sleep and Alertness Clinic. 750 Dundas. To go to that one see Dr.C Shapiro -416-603-5273

What you said below is wrong for the mere fact I did one two of them at two different places within 2-3 months of each other. All the appointments? One would had been with your main doctor and 2 would had been with the referral sleep doctor he sent you to go see. 3 would had been straight to the sleep clinic. So not sure where there should be any Red tape.. nobody here seems to have gone through what you have, just to get a sleep study done.


^^ they changed the rules this year in ontario about how much time must take place between sleep studies. you arent allowed to do them in the same 12 months anymore apparently. ive been waiting a LONG ****ing time for this thing with all the appointments and follow ups ive had to go to.

such a red tape ****ing nightmare. i just want to sleep already. ****.

[#8]

The doc told me they couldnt do another one until a certain amount of time had passed. as far as I know thats the only sleep clinin in my area in London. The doc does seem like a bit of a douche know it all type of person who seems to think he can understand what my sleeping patterns were like after the first visit.

i have an appt booked for jan so its not too far away now. hopefully things will happen soon after.

[YYZgeddylee]

Look into Pulse Magnetic Therapy

All the research behind it: http://www.earthpulse.net/

A link to the one I own: http://www.earthpulsetechnologies.com/
3 month no-questions return policy (about 6% return rate)
about $500 (i can save you shipping with a code)

I had horrible sleep for the longest time, now I sleep like I did
when I was a teenager. Has measurable benefits on top of sleep.
All the research proof is in the first link.
I was skeptical to spend that much money, but I wouldnt be
without it for double what it cost.

[Definate]

I think GH is a scary area to charter into. I will go no more than TRT (Testo Jabs) that and a good nights sleep....meaning there is no underlying medical condition to the quality of sleep one receives each night. There are so many undiagnosed cases of sleep apnea that people feel their hormones are to low e.t.c.

[#8]

I will go no more than TRT (Testo Jabs) that and a good nights sleep....meaning there is no underlying medical condition to the quality of sleep one receives each night.

Can you confirm what exactly this sentence means? It is almost a coherent thought but even if it was it still wouldnt make sense.

[Definate]

I will go no more than TRT (Testo Jabs) that and a good nights sleep....meaning there is no underlying medical condition to the quality of sleep one receives each night.

Can you confirm what exactly this sentence means? It is almost a coherent thought but even if it was it still wouldnt make sense.

It means I won't screw around with GH....life is too short and precious. Understand now?

[#8]

thanks.

[Definate]

Look into Pulse Magnetic Therapy

All the research behind it: http://www.earthpulse.net/

A link to the one I own: http://www.earthpulsetechnologies.com/
3 month no-questions return policy (about 6% return rate)
about $500 (i can save you shipping with a code)

I had horrible sleep for the longest time, now I sleep like I did
when I was a teenager. Has measurable benefits on top of sleep.
All the research proof is in the first link.
I was skeptical to spend that much money, but I wouldnt be
without it for double what it cost.

curious, have you done a sleep study test?

[Mr Ontario]

Good advice old timer ;)


Look into Pulse Magnetic Therapy

All the research behind it: http://www.earthpulse.net/

A link to the one I own: http://www.earthpulsetechnologies.com/
3 month no-questions return policy (about 6% return rate)
about $500 (i can save you shipping with a code)

I had horrible sleep for the longest time, now I sleep like I did
when I was a teenager. Has measurable benefits on top of sleep.
All the research proof is in the first link.
I was skeptical to spend that much money, but I wouldnt be
without it for double what it cost.

[Definate]

What are you talking about? I think I did 2 sleep studies - actually I think it was only 1 in Sarnia. Not sure why they are putting you through the ringer on this one. I got the CPAP machine - costs about $300 from Vital Aire. All machines are covered by OHIP so you only pay about $300 regardless how much the machine actually is. I had my wife's insurance cover the remaining $300 so I'm sure your student insurance will cover most of it too. Too bad they are dragging it out for you.
SS

Exactly! Ohip covers the major chunk of it. You have the option of putting down $300-$600 more for a better machine.
1 sleep study and you qualify for the machine.

[Definate]

^^^^Ive been in the process of getting one for over a year now. It takes a boatload of paper work and several sleep studies with follow up appointments.

I have another study coming up in January then a follow up in March I believe. I would give anything to have a good nights sleep at least 5 nights a week. I walk around every day feeling like a zombie, and Im really starting to not give a shit about anything or anyone. Its ****ed up.

what...."boatload of paper work"????
lol

The doctor's are happy to set you up with the most quickest appointments to sell their machines at CPAP DIRECT.

[#8]

^^ as most of your previous posts have shown you are clearly HIGHLY intelligent. Can you please not post in my threads as your intelligence so far exceeds that of my own I am unable to respond to you in a manner you will find becoming of me.

That is all