GF & trying to cut fat

[Kilburn]

she is having good results with a fat burner that's main ingredients are yohimbine, albuterol and meridia. good results off just one pill a day.

i was thinking of helping her speed it up even more. what are your thoughts on giving her some GH. safe? what dose? results w/o any gear (gh alone)?

[Zylo]

Unless someone is getting on stage somewhere, I don't see the need for fat burners, stimulants or anything like that. IMO it's all over rated and isn't what's important...

Eating the proper diet is 90% of it. The rest is mainly how many miles your logging on the treadmill or whatever other type of cardio, sport or activity you enjoy.

If you include some more background information on her current situation, goals and diet I'm sure a bunch of people would gladly chime in with some great advice for you. I don't know any details so I apologize in advance if she's already been eating properly, working out regularly, is in solid shape and just looking for something to drop that last 1 or 2% of body fat.

Best of luck, stay consistent! That's the key!

[steve_d]

no need to speed it up. dieting isn't about results now. the quicker you get results, the quicker you lose them. slow and steady wins the race in this situation. besides, yohmbine, albuteral and meridia? pretty sure it should be happening fast already unless things are drastically wrong in diet / exercise.

[Kilburn]

lol, yes, she's preparing for a figure competition. NOT.....

she's on the big side and she is lazy. she tends to talk alot about how much she wants to work out but then she sleeps in too much and by the time she gets up, it's time to go to work.

that said she is doing fairly well with cutting calories. shes lost atleast 20 pounds so far and lots of inches. lol at saying the fat burner doesnt make much of a difference. the pills that i have are very strong. i cut 30 pounds in just under two months using them with a reduced carb diet.

she's good when she's working but weekends tend to be a free for all, partly my fault because my metabolisim is fricken crazy, and i admit i can be a bad influence sometimes.

im on 2.5 iu GH plus gear and it's almost impossible for me to gain bodyfat so i thought with it plus the fat burner she could get some crazy results maybe. but obvs the gh wont kick nearly as strong because she's not taking any gear.

she could be so fricken hot if she cut more weight and toned her legs. maybe ill only put her on some if she commits to working out. or do you think it's all around a bad idea. if i did, 2.5 iu you think? more? less?

[steve_d]

lol at saying the fat burner doesnt make much of a difference. the pills that i have are very strong. i cut 30 pounds in just under two months using them with a reduced carb diet.


And you would have lost 29 pounds if you followed the same diet without the pills. All the pills do is make it easier mentally - ie you don't feel as shitty following a similar diet.

Other than that, my opinion hasn't changed about what she should do.

[Big D]

And you would have lost 29 pounds if you followed the same diet without the pills. All the pills do is make it easier mentally - ie you don't feel as shitty following a similar diet.

Other than that, my opinion hasn't changed about what she should do.

good post, hes right Kilburn

[countrychic]

Interesting.......

I would continue to give her good feedback (I wouldn't want her to read what you wrote, you would probly break her heart). Lot's of encouragement, maybe that's all she needs to continue and keep the fire under her pants!! Good for her in gett'n rid of that 20lbs!!!!

Drugs won't be the "fix all". Diet and exercise!!!!

[Andre Gregoire]

Interesting how your first thought was to think about more drugs.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt by searching for your old posts, thinking you might have asked for diet advice for her in the past and nope, most of your posts are about drugs, big surprise.

Good luck with that.

[Kilburn]

Interesting how your first thought was to think about more drugs.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt by searching for your old posts, thinking you might have asked for diet advice for her in the past and nope, most of your posts are about drugs, big surprise.

Good luck with that.

............. eat less food? i dont need diet advice, it's not rocket science.

.... and it's a steroid forum

[natenator]

............. eat less food? i dont need diet advice, it's not rocket science.

.... and it's a steroid forum

Running the gear you had been running previously and you still couldn't barely break 200lbs while juiced to the gills. I'd say diet advice is something you do require.

But then again, you think steroids burn fat so that already tells us what kind of brain you have.

[razorsedge]

Kilburn...from reading the whole thread, it looks like ur gf is not that committed to the program and that you "may" be pushing her where she doesn't want to go....I think you should re-evaluate ur motivation here...are you trying to truly help her or build a yourself a girlfriend, i.e. trying to make her look like you want her to look....you, and she, do need diet advice like NateNator says...lots of it....just sayin

[Kilburn]

Running the gear you had been running previously and you still couldn't barely break 200lbs while juiced to the gills. I'd say diet advice is something you do require.

But then again, you think steroids burn fat so that already tells us what kind of brain you have.

im only 200 pounds right now too.

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benching 315 for reps and curling 70s.

i dont give a flying **** about weight anymore. it means nothing. only fat ass idiots brag about how much they weigh. im full ecto btw 5'11, look at my wrists, i wouldnt want it any other way. the GOAT never weighed that much, zane, flex, arnold.

youre telling me tren doesnt help you speed metabolic rate while retaining muscle? that's what the drug was designed for, and why they give it to cattle.... ya, and i'm the one lacking a brain. :rolleyes:

[natenator]

im only 200 pounds right now too.

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benching 315 for reps and curling 70s.

i dont give a flying **** about weight anymore. it means nothing. only fat ass idiots brag about how much they weigh.

youre telling me tren doesnt help you speed metabolic rate while retaining muscle? that's what the drug was designed for, and why they give it to cattle.... ya, and i'm the one lacking a brain. :rolleyes:
Tapout. Should have known LOL

So are you saying tren directly oxidizes adipose?

You failed to answer that question a bunch of months ago when I asked the same thing. Wanna answer it now?

[moh2010]

Usually peoples failed in weight loss because they can't change their life style. Also, especially for women, its not all about calories, but hormones. Some will only shrink from the breast and shoulders, but they'll keep their fat legs because they produce too much estrogen. There's protocols for localize fatloss (managing hormones through natural supplements, training and diet), but you need to be really serious and follow everything or it wont work.

She need to learn how to lose weight naturally. Many of my clients who decided to take gh/t3/clen or any other fat burners had good or great results. But when they stopped, they gain everything back slowly. Why? Its because they are not active peoples. They stopped training for awhile, reduce protein intake and came back to eating bad carbs.

It's not everyone who can do it. It's only the peoples who really want to change their life. That's 15% of my clients. The rest are just paying for temporary results.

I would recommend her to do some reading about the biosignature (charles poliquin). You can find whole program for free only (pdf).

[red rocket]

As for your original question, no I dont think adding a little bit of gh is going to do anything for her. Yes it helps partitioning the fats and proteins we consume, but if she isnt active, then its a moot point.

Something has to spark her interest, then she will want to go for it. Give her some dieting options, low carb, keto, carb cycle, etc.. See if she thinks she can handle one of them, if so then have her commit to it, and be supportive. She may yell at you for pushing too hard, but after she will she why you did it.

[BBbox]

Drugs won't be the "fix all". Diet and exercise!!!!

:a+

[Kilburn]

Tapout. Should have known LOL

So are you saying tren directly oxidizes adipose?

You failed to answer that question a bunch of months ago when I asked the same thing. Wanna answer it now?

i dont really care how exactly it works.

just the very fact that it allows you to keep muscle while dieting means that it's also speeding metabolisim at the same time. because afterall, everyone knows that more muscle=higher base metabolic rate even while at rest.

but please spare me your brosceience.

[natenator]

i dont really care how exactly it works.

just the very fact that it allows you to keep muscle while dieting means that it's also speeding metabolisim at the same time. because afterall, everyone knows that more muscle=higher base metabolic rate even while at rest.

but please spare me your brosceience.
you're an ignorant soul who only comes around here when he's in need of some info while contributing nothing positive in return.

The fact you put drugs in your system should make you WANT to know how things work exactly.

It's not broscience when it's actual science. You'd do well to read more.

[razorsedge]

lol, yes, she's preparing for a figure competition. NOT.....

she's on the big side and she is lazy. she tends to talk alot about how much she wants to work out but then she sleeps in too much and by the time she gets up, it's time to go to work.

that said she is doing fairly well with cutting calories. shes lost atleast 20 pounds so far and lots of inches. lol at saying the fat burner doesnt make much of a difference. the pills that i have are very strong. i cut 30 pounds in just under two months using them with a reduced carb diet.

she's good when she's working but weekends tend to be a free for all, partly my fault because my metabolisim is fricken crazy, and i admit i can be a bad influence sometimes.

im on 2.5 iu GH plus gear and it's almost impossible for me to gain bodyfat so i thought with it plus the fat burner she could get some crazy results maybe. but obvs the gh wont kick nearly as strong because she's not taking any gear.

she could be so fricken hot if she cut more weight and toned her legs. maybe ill only put her on some if she commits to working out. or do you think it's all around a bad idea. if i did, 2.5 iu you think? more? less?


Kilburn...read what you posted.

You never mentioned if she gets to working out or doing cardio in conjunction with her diet...which really seems to be working if she lost 20 lbs...so you're doing something right there...but if she doesn't want to get up and get at it to help herself, the second you stop hounding her she is rebounding to heavier than when she started...she needs to commit to a lifestyle change not a gear regime forced on her by you..

If she is not training and you're looking at giving gh and possibly gear...I don't understand what your thinking u r going to accomplish...and why. Obviously you have some experience with these things and have to know that each has "sides" that are sometimes more severe for women and your motivation it appears...is to make her so

"frickin hot".

I think you have to re-evaluate your motivation and come to the realization that possibly YOU are the one NOT HAPPY with her and how she looks... as she seems OK with it if she hasn't made the commitment to change.

As well, ur metabolism is obviously way diff than hers...what works for you and her could be miles apart.

I'm going to hazard a guess she doesn't know about this thread and what you've said...and it looks like by the number of posts you have made that you have been on here a bit...there are some people on here that consistently give awesome advice, some hardcore and some general and you should recognize that...You have Steve D, Country Chic, Andre and NateN and others....these are some of those people. They have been around and know the ropes...take it for what it is and don't be afraid to say "OK, thanks people" as they are just trying to help when you were the one that asked for help...don't be a knob..put ur energy into helping ur girl with ther diet and support her...or get on with finding this "frickin hot chick" that you want...sorry buddy but ur a bit out of line...now I'll butt out of ur business...

[bcaamuscle]

I don't know what kind of pitifully low self esteem this girl has to listen to suggestions about sticking herself with needles so you can make her "hot" when's she's too lazy to get outta bed. Is she a pothead? Is she employed? Motivation has to start from within, she has to be able to motivate herself! DO IT NOW! as a self starter can help..partying on the weekends does not help..as was stated by others, a lifestyle change is the only way things will improve. But I digress..