eca and omnadren

[SiLvErBaK]

you guys think this combo would be detrimental to size gains?

i'm trying to focus on shape but also adding as much mas as i can. I know omadren will bloat but it's all i have at the moment so i want to both maximize fat loss while maximizing muscle gain. good idea or bad???

[Gettin'r'round]

You either want to gain muscle or lose fat. FORGET about doing both. As for bloat just take arimidex throughout your cycle to keep estrogen down. And don't try to lean out when you come off. Not until you are all back to normal.

[Bowlcut]

ECA = lame

YCNA= Da bomb

What dose of omna are you running? I wouldn't use an AI unless you had at a larger dose, and if then I would take aromasin as it is much lighter on the lipid profile and does a better job.

[St]

You know what i have noticed over the years from training for a show,is that when i took eca's,or clen,is you stay i little leaner so when a show comes around you have a bit less fat and don't have to kill yourself as bad to get into shape.Also it won't effect your gains,plus if your worried just up your cals.

[shithead]

You know what i have noticed over the years from training for a show,is that when i took eca's,or clen,is you stay i little leaner so when a show comes around you have a bit less fat and don't have to kill yourself as bad to get into shape.Also it won't effect your gains,plus if your worried just up your cals.

sometimes hard to do with eca.

[St]

sometimes hard to do with eca.



Yes it is,unless you have a clean diet Dorian Yates did it,and no more than 2-3 grams of carb per pound,for me its 2 grams now,from 3 grams of carbs from 11 year earlier.