View Full Version : Question about "Drop Sets"
Anthony
20-10-2010, 05:34 PM
I heard from a youtube video that drop sets are a good way to work out. This is when you start with a weight do 6-8 reps then drop the amount of weight and go some more reps. Would this be more for Strength or Mass and would the opposite (starting with a small weight and working up) would that be more for mass or strength?
JonnyO
21-10-2010, 12:03 AM
Something to incorporate into your routine for sure but not something to do all the time.
GYMBRAT
21-10-2010, 12:39 AM
x2, great to switch things up though
Anthony
21-10-2010, 06:30 AM
i tried it yesterday for bicep curls and man i got up at 7:00 and i was so sore, it seems to be a good workout
the last set in every one of my workouts is a drop set..usually use a machine to make it easier to change the resistance
I agree with switching it up
Anthony
22-10-2010, 04:28 PM
the last set in every one of my workouts is a drop set..usually use a machine to make it easier to change the resistance
thats what i think im going to do, use it for my last set in a workout
cprom185
28-10-2010, 04:02 PM
This trainer I hired has me doing this as my second exercise in w.e muscle group i am working
Delt King
28-10-2010, 10:56 PM
I use this training technique semi regularly but usually it's 5reps to failure dropped into another 5 reps to failure.
^^ what is 5 reps to failure? is it 5 reps? or is it to failure? i dont understand....
its all about periodization
Delt King
29-10-2010, 10:03 AM
^^ what is 5 reps to failure? is it 5 reps? or is it to failure? i dont understand....
Seriously? It's both dude.
I pick a weight that i know i'll hit positive failure at 5 reps max. then immediately drop to slightly lighter and bang out another 5 reps hitting failure again. :greet
I thought failure was as many as possible until you cant do it anymore, not a set number.
faller
29-10-2010, 12:57 PM
I've set a number that i would try to go to failure on. I tend to pussy out if i don't have a number in mind. If i can go over that number than i'm stoked!
I thought failure was as many as possible until you cant do it anymore, not a set number.
Is there a gun pointed at you?:)
^^ do you breathe through your mouth?
How does nobody understand this?
Failure = one simply cannot squeeze out another rep at all. Setting any kind of limit on how many you should be doing does not make logical sense to me if lifting to FAILURE is the goal.
If you can get 6 or 7 do you stop at 5? Then to me its not failure, its a set to 5.
^^ do you breathe through your mouth?
How does nobody understand this?
Failure = one simply cannot squeeze out another rep at all. Setting any kind of limit on how many you should be doing does not make logical sense to me if lifting to FAILURE is the goal.
If you can get 6 or 7 do you stop at 5? Then to me its not failure, its a set to 5.
Delt King has stated that he picks a weight that he knows he will hit failure with on 5 reps.IIRC,he has stated that he can do upright rows with 225 so I feel that he has gotten to know quite intimately how to max out the training load on those delts,eh?
faller
30-10-2010, 02:25 AM
^^ do you breathe through your mouth?
How does nobody understand this?
I get it, he breathes through his mouth. :D
If you've been training long enough you know your limitation's. Lets say you know you are at complete failure at 4 reps with X lbs. than set your goal at 5 reps with same X lbs.
Course there's times when i play around and drop X lbs. by say 40% and than go to failure with no preconcieved reps in mind... Make sense or do i not get what you're asking?
O-Train
30-10-2010, 10:01 AM
#8 is right, everyone else shut up.
faller
30-10-2010, 10:38 AM
No you shutup :ne
macka
30-10-2010, 10:46 AM
I get it, he breathes through his mouth. :D
If you've been training long enough you know your limitation's. Lets say you know you are at complete failure at 4 reps with X lbs. than set your goal at 5 reps with same X lbs.
Course there's times when i play around and drop X lbs. by say 40% and than go to failure with no preconceived reps in mind... Make sense or do i not get what you're asking?
Even though I know I can lift a weight x number of reps, I have my training partner push me past my mental limits. If you set a rep amount in your head ( a very common practice in most people regardless of background) you may never proceed further as your mind stops you. Your body can do a lot more then you think it can if you have someone pushing you as well as pushing yourself. The other issue in your mind is safety, your mind will try to keep you from getting injured. If you can supersede the minds safety valve by showing your conscious mind you are safe, then you will also lift above your norm. Your mind is mostly what limits you when you lift.
faller
30-10-2010, 12:15 PM
Your mind is mostly what limits you when you lift.
Very true! Thats why i've always had such a crappy bench, in my mind i already failed on my lift before i even unracked the bar. To me it's an intimidateing lift and i just couldn't shake that feeling.
I seldom would go to failure but to me haveing a number in mind isn't so much as setting a limit as setting a goal. I have to have a number i need to surpass or like i said i'd tend to pussy out.
Even though I know I can lift a weight x number of reps, I have my training partner push me past my mental limits. If you set a rep amount in your head ( a very common practice in most people regardless of background) you may never proceed further as your mind stops you. Your body can do a lot more then you think it can if you have someone pushing you as well as pushing yourself. The other issue in your mind is safety, your mind will try to keep you from getting injured. If you can supersede the minds safety valve by showing your conscious mind you are safe, then you will also lift above your norm. Your mind is mostly what limits you when you lift.
EXACTLY!!! WELL SAID.
setting any kind of number for yourself on a drop set is simply nonsense to me uness its a number you must pass and wont stop until you do.
EXACTLY!!! WELL SAID.
setting any kind of number for yourself on a drop set is simply nonsense to me uness its a number you must pass and wont stop until you do.
Like I said,do you have a gun pointed at you?Most people will use a certain amount of fatigue as a signal to stop.
The problem is defining failure.IIRC,a number of years backTexas A&M embarked on a single set to failure program once a week for their football team.They had a machine for squats,for safety,and their problem was making certain failure had occured.Negatives,partials,stripping,pauses were all employed.Tom Platz used to do some extended leg extension sets lasting 10 minutes...
^^ i define failure as all of your posts in this thread.
now let me go and do my last strip set to failure of 6 reps. i dont care how many more than 6 i can get, 6 is my failure point because i said so.
macka
01-11-2010, 07:20 AM
Like I said,do you have a gun pointed at you?Most people will use a certain amount of fatigue as a signal to stop.
I know what I want, and go for it. Is that wrong? I guess you don't wanna play with me on leg day.
I know what I want, and go for it. Is that wrong? I guess you don't wanna play with me on leg day.
I have no idea what it is you go for on leg day...as long as you can recover fully by the next leg day...or not fall down a flight of stairs on the way out...:)
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