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Big_Papa_B
27-09-2010, 06:54 PM
Anyone on here from Toronto going to see Cutler next Saturday? He should look amazing....it will be only 1 week out from the Olympia...
Forever
27-09-2010, 10:31 PM
It's only like a 3 hour drive for me, I was thinking of going down to see the iron shiek, not sure who this "cutler" fella is though.
JMP
28-09-2010, 11:28 AM
Where is the show he is doing ?
Big D
28-09-2010, 11:50 AM
MP has a thread about , hes going to be in Barrie oct 3rd.

I was thinking about going, dont know if its worth the 3 hour drive.
JMP
28-09-2010, 04:53 PM
When:
Saturday October 2nd 2010

Time:
6pm

Where:
Michael Power/St. Joseph Catholic Secondary High School
105 Eringate Drive
Toronto, Canada
This is what the site has for info , tickets $ 50.00
Shafty
28-09-2010, 07:53 PM
I'll be there ;)
Big D
28-09-2010, 08:14 PM
50$ to see a big guy with a mohawk .. no thank you
Praetorian
28-09-2010, 11:29 PM
Yeah no kidding...Id rather see Branch.
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drdnj
29-09-2010, 05:22 PM
Yeah no kidding...Id rather see Branch.
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Andre
29-09-2010, 05:27 PM
Jay was given a gift on the weekend... I don't feel like wasting $50 on him!
natenator
30-09-2010, 11:38 AM
Jay was given a gift on the weekend... I don't feel like wasting $50 on him!
how was he given a gift?

Most people (who matter) say while he wasn't as good as last year he did enough to win this year.
Andre
30-09-2010, 12:38 PM
Well... my opinion matters to me... and I saw both in person... and Phil looked better...
Andre
30-09-2010, 01:17 PM
http://s97997631.onlinehome.us/temp/jay_vs_phil.jpg
Andre
30-09-2010, 01:27 PM
What do you guys think?
natenator
30-09-2010, 01:34 PM
Jay simply has too much size. Yes he has a blocky waist but that is about his only downfall. He was plenty lean enough to hang with Phil.
slick rick
30-09-2010, 01:57 PM
Cutlers the man...even if you don't agree with the placings, you don't become a 4 time Mr O by luck. If i was to pay to see a top level bodybuilder i would want to see the champ, this show is close to home so i may try and make it over, hopefully.
natenator
30-09-2010, 02:08 PM
Well... my opinion matters to me... and I saw both in person... and Phil looked better...
I'd say your bias is the reason you believe what you believe but like you said, you were there in person.
steve_d
30-09-2010, 02:39 PM
I like Phil better, but understand why Jay would win.
natenator
30-09-2010, 02:41 PM
I like Phil better, but understand why Jay would win.
I used to like Jay's physique but now prefer Phil and Wolf. But I can push aside my personal bias to say that I do think Jay was the better man that night.
Praetorian
01-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Phil was definitely better but in the judges eyes it wasn't a knockout so they gave it to Jay the reigning champ. IMO the freakiest guy could have won and that would have been Branch easily...much harder and drier than both Jay and Phil and crazy muscularity.
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Delt King
01-10-2010, 11:04 AM
What do you guys think?

Looking at those side by side comparisons...Phil all the way for sure IMO, so much more pleasing to the eye.
natenator
01-10-2010, 11:05 AM
Phil was definitely better but in the judges eyes it wasn't a knockout so they gave it to Jay the reigning champ. IMO the freakiest guy could have won and that would have been Branch easily...much harder and drier than both Jay and Phil and crazy muscularity.
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Agree with Branch. Dude was the most peeled I think I've ever seen and at that size... crazy
natenator
01-10-2010, 11:06 AM
Looking at those side by side comparisons...Phil all the way for sure IMO, so much more pleasing to the eye.
I'm sorry, where have you been for the past 20 years? Bodybuilding at the pro level isn't about aesthetics
Delt King
01-10-2010, 11:12 AM
I'm sorry, where have you been for the past 20 years? Bodybuilding at the pro level isn't about aesthetics

And it's too bad it isn't...maybe we'd get some mainsteam media coverage and acceptance if it was, leading to better compensation for athletes which then would attract more athletes.

I understand why Jay won, i just don't like it. (but he is a freak...much respect for that)
natenator
01-10-2010, 11:16 AM
And it's too bad it isn't...maybe we'd get some mainsteam media coverage and acceptance if it was, leading to better compensation for athletes which then would attract more athletes.

I understand why Jay won, i just don't like it. (but he is a freak...much respect for that)
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment as I'd prefer to see more aesthetic looking physiques but the question was who deserved to win as Andre felt Jay was given a gift.