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SteveMan
18-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Ok so I did a tren/test cutting cycle for 12 weeks and instead of taking time off I went straight to bulking cycle consisting of 750-1000mg test/week and I am kicking in deca in a couple weeks just to make sure the tren is out of my system. I have been off tren for about 3 weeks and my libido is still completely dead. I need to get some HCG and take it heavy for a couple weeks then 500mg twice a week for the remainder of my cycle, at least thats what I have been told.

Anyway I am curious as to why my sex drive is shit even though my test levels are high. I am taking aromasin ED too, so it can't be estrogen related. So if my test levels are high then why am I not a horny bastard right now... like i was at the beginning of my cutting cycle.

My second question is - when you run a cycle for 24 weeks straight does the effect of testosterone become lesser and lesser because your androgen receptors are being hit hard for such a long time? I am debating whether to just start PCT now and start another bulk in july. But I am interested in competing in the fall this is why I decided to run a second cycle immediately following my cut. I know staying on steroids for almost half the year can't be healthy... I dont know what to do to be honest.

leeroy
18-04-2008, 03:30 PM
You have progesterone bulidup. Deca will make it worst imo.

gustavo77
18-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Aromasin+Dostinex+Proviron. 25mg of Aroma per day, 0.5mg of Dost e3rd and 50mg of Prov per day, split in two doses, one morning, one evening....with this combo you should be a monster in the bedroom...if not there is something definitely wrong and you should definitely seek medical help...lol.

SteveMan
18-04-2008, 06:24 PM
this is going to be costly... I can't get that stuff for probly another 3-4 weeks, will this be an issue if I can deal with the libido problem in the mean time. I mean what other negative sides are there to this buildup

St
18-04-2008, 07:10 PM
this is going to be costly... I can't get that stuff for probly another 3-4 weeks, will this be an issue if I can deal with the libido problem in the mean time. I mean what other negative sides are there to this buildup


You know if you like you could use Trib for 3-4 week until you can get the combo what Gustavo said.

shithead
18-04-2008, 08:22 PM
I believe that AR up regulate.

gsxr750
18-04-2008, 09:49 PM
I had some libido problems from some prescriptions i'm on, and tribulus at 3G/day ( PVL ) has helped me quite a bit suprisingly..

Mix in a little cialis and wow... better than ever. ;)

SteveMan
18-04-2008, 10:22 PM
yeah but I don't want to cover up the issue, i need to fix it. Hopefully this will fix itself in the next couple of weeks, I will get some dostinex if need be. Because it is not estrogen related since I am taking aromasin ED. Can dbol lower libido?

shithead
18-04-2008, 10:36 PM
Its the 19-nortest drugs that are killing you.

Turtle
19-04-2008, 08:24 AM
agreed that some dostinex and proviron will help. or drop deca and use eq.

St
19-04-2008, 08:54 AM
Its the 19-nortest drugs that are killing you.


Yep,eq would be a better pick next cycle.

MassNutrition
19-04-2008, 12:46 PM
Most definitely. I agree totally that EQ would be a much better choice over the Deca...

SteveMan
19-04-2008, 05:27 PM
yeah I need proviron

outshine
20-04-2008, 09:25 PM
i had also had libido issues after my test/tren cycle. Was definatley progestrone related seeing as I ran test for some weeks after. Dostinex, clomid, nolva, and trib were restoring me to normal super horny until i took some letro :(.

Does aromasin have positive effects on libido? the other AIs i've ran (adex, letro) kill mine. I was told that this may be due to them lowering estrogen levels too much.

small_guy
22-04-2008, 08:54 PM
could always try vit b6 to see if it helps prolactin levels as there is some evidence- worth a shot.

600 mgs ed split into 3 doses.

SteveMan
22-04-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm just going to get some dostinex, I can't get it for a couple weeks so I just have to deal with limp dick till then, I am getting some proviron too, maybe I will use EQ instead of deca.

Do high progesterone levels have any negative effects other then libido issues? Cause I can deal with that for now.