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Thor
12-09-2010, 11:57 PM
So I'm 3 weeks out and am holding a ton of water and a little fat but not a large amount. I'm thinking about taking Ultra-Strength Taraxatone Extreme or MHP Xpel to drop the water weight. I was hoping that I could get some advice on wich I should get and how do I use a product like this? I know that it dehydrates you and all but how much water should I be taking in, how far out from the show should I start it?

Thank you for the help

steve_d
13-09-2010, 07:21 AM
how do you know its water and not fat....by a couple weeks out your body tends to not even know how to hold onto water if your lean enough.

bigtavi8
13-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Assuming it is water (been in your position and unfortunatly it was not water, LOL ) those OTC diuretics will do the trick. I heard the XPel by MHP was one of the better natural diuretics out there. There is also dandelion root if you prefer the natural way. In any event someone else is gonna have to chime in on there expierences using the natural diuretics because all i have used is the dandelion root for 3 days b4 pre judging.

Not sure if you will get a full response because final week prep, cutting water is a science and needs to be hit right or you will either spill over or lose fullness.

My best advice to you is either hire someone from here for last week help or keep EVERYTHING the same. Yes everything. Ride into the show lean as can be no sodium, water, anything changes. Even carbing up dont worry about. At least u no you will look as you do now and not screw up your work for the last x amount of months.

Talo
13-09-2010, 11:06 AM
How much water are you taking in daily right now ?

Prisoner#22
13-09-2010, 01:30 PM
lol yeah, a lot of competitors will tell you 'I'm just holding a little water' ah... no! It's called fat! you need to diet longer! lol

Thor
13-09-2010, 02:02 PM
lol yeah, a lot of competitors will tell you 'I'm just holding a little water' ah... no! It's called fat! you need to diet longer! lol

I hate to say it but I think/know you are right. I have had to pull out from 2 other show in the past because I could not get lean enough, and I have a bad feeling I will fall victom again. I do have a trainer and he told me fat does not look like what I got and I was holding a lot of water. I dont think I'm ready for my first show but he seems to think I will do fine. Im just stressing 24/7 anxiety all day and it is killing me.

steve_d
13-09-2010, 03:32 PM
I hate to say it but I think/know you are right. I have had to pull out from 2 other show in the past because I could not get lean enough, and I have a bad feeling I will fall victom again. I do have a trainer and he told me fat does not look like what I got and I was holding a lot of water. I dont think I'm ready for my first show but he seems to think I will do fine. Im just stressing 24/7 anxiety all day and it is killing me.

you need a new trainer IMO. Seems like this one is not keeping it real. Post up some pictures. I am sure we can tell you if its fat or water. You don't want a trainer that tells you something so that your don't stress out. If stressing out will keep your diet in line, than that is what you need. However, you may have simply not dieted soon enough. I still wouldn't pull out of the show just because you may not be bang on (unless you really are WAY off). You can at least learn from it...What show is it?

Big D
13-09-2010, 03:40 PM
you need a new trainer IMO.

x2

to many people out that think they're trainers, it drives me crazy

Thor
13-09-2010, 04:28 PM
I'm doing the Max Muscle Washington Ironman natural. And I think that I still am about 5 weeks out but I only have 3. I could always do this one show that would give me those added weeks but it would not be a tested show.

baza
13-09-2010, 05:02 PM
I was sitting about 15lbs heavier than I am right now. I figured a lot of it was water. Some of it was, but a lot of it was fat. Now I'm about 7-8% and like Steve_D said, when you're lean enough your body won't really hold water. (To some degree of course). I'll pig out for 3 days straight now, and still can't even tell I'm holding water.

steve_d
13-09-2010, 05:51 PM
I'm doing the Max Muscle Washington Ironman natural. And I think that I still am about 5 weeks out but I only have 3. I could always do this one show that would give me those added weeks but it would not be a tested show.

how much cardio are you doing now...you can get the results of 5 weeks in 3 if you tend to lose slowly. But I am just listening to what you're saying, and it sounds like your really not ready...Again, post some pics and we'll see. I've seen some pretty drastic transformations in 3 weeks. If your not used to too much cardio, then 3 weeks of a good amount could REALLY change your physique.

Thor
13-09-2010, 06:02 PM
how much cardio are you doing now...you can get the results of 5 weeks in 3 if you tend to lose slowly. But I am just listening to what you're saying, and it sounds like your really not ready...Again, post some pics and we'll see. I've seen some pretty drastic transformations in 3 weeks. If your not used to too much cardio, then 3 weeks of a good amount could REALLY change your physique.

Im doing 30min upon waking-up then 15min mid day and 30min after training around 7:00pm. I will try to get some pics up soon.

Delt King
13-09-2010, 08:13 PM
Three weeks out it's time to bump your cardio to 1 hour in the morning and one hour after weights.
Cut your carbs down a more and increase your water intake to 5 litres day. And watch how things can change quick.
Oh and post up a pic.

Praetorian
13-09-2010, 10:44 PM
Its not water...if you are lean enough you will be very dry in the morning...you il tend to retain water through the day thats usually inevitable but it will be gone by morning. Post a few pics and I can let you know where you are.
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Talo
13-09-2010, 10:46 PM
Your getting some good advice from some top guys I hope your taking this in :)

Felinecougar
14-09-2010, 12:55 AM
With out photos everyone is making an assumption. Post your pics then get at true annalist.

steve_d
14-09-2010, 10:24 AM
Its not water...if you are lean enough you will be very dry in the morning...you il tend to retain water through the day thats usually inevitable but it will be gone by morning. Post a few pics and I can let you know where you are.
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He's gotten some good advice, and with 3 weeks of 2 hours per day cardio, combined with a low calorie diet, he would potentially be ready for the stage. However, I am just guessing he's not mentally ready for it.

The other problem is waiting until 3 weeks out to decide if he's on track.

bigtavi8
14-09-2010, 11:09 AM
At this point you have 2 distinct choices 1) bust your ass and do 2h cardio a day + low carb diet (or keto). You will lose muscle most likely due to soo much cardio and trying to lose fast but will look good at your show. 2) Regroup and drop out of the show. Get a prep coach from the board to help with ur prep. Then go back ready to rock and kill it.

shredded_Tris
15-09-2010, 07:13 AM
how do you know its water and not fat....by a couple weeks out your body tends to not even know how to hold onto water if your lean enough.

I completely agree with Steve here.
For the first time since my diet I woke up weighing 156.8lbs and 5 hours and probably 2L of water and 3 meals later I was the exact same. Normally I would be at least a pound or more heavier by that time of day.

steve_d
15-09-2010, 08:07 AM
I completely agree with Steve here.
For the first time since my diet I woke up weighing 156.8lbs and 5 hours and probably 2L of water and 3 meals later I was the exact same. Normally I would be at least a pound or more heavier by that time of day.

next thing to happen for you is 5 hours after waking you will have drank at least 5 litres to replenish even more water that you lose over night. When you're really ripped you'll hold lots of water throughout the day and drop 8 pounds over night. Look like a totally different guy in the morning for the first bit until you get the water and salt in you. This assuming your getting the sodium you need. Without sodium, yeah, I can't hold onto more than 2 pounds at a time. Not a good way to be this far out. cramping, lack of pump, no energy...(worse than normal that is).