First "cycle" (in quotes)

[N00bBT]

Hi, i've had good results with clen, cardio, diete (Palumbo), went from 242 (~20%) to 223 STABLE (?% I could see all four abs) in 16 weeks. I was very happy.

Now i want to run;

Clenbuterol
Cytomel T3
An anabolic substance

I did a lot of research and learnt that in order to run Cytomel rightfuly, i would need a help to keep my muscle mass. Here is the list of substances proposed in order of best-worst;

Test Propionate (soft,almost no sides, high frequency of injections and buttpin is bad however)
Test Enanthat (less frequency, more sides)

THE BIG PROBLEM, i didn't want to go ahead into a test cycle at the moment, to tell you the truth i was only researching it for in about 5 years. As i am only 22yrs old i am "scared" of the consequences. However i realise i wouldn't use it as a bulking cycle and hence i could maybe use lower doeses? It still test though (nothing bad, except my age) I feel like i am rushed into it.

This is where i would need your help, is there other options i can opt for? I know anavar and winstrol are used sometimes, however they are not optimal.

So i would need help on a anabolic substance, that will protect my muscle mass, and how to take it.

BTE; I've researched T3 enough and have my own idea of it. I understand it, and the possible consequences and still am willing to take it anyways, so just answer my questions please!

Thank You.

[Memo]

you should do a basic cycle, test e for 3 months at 400-500mg/week, a good pct should be your priority. Orals will have the same negative effect on HPTA than test. Make sure you research pct a lot.

Id drop cytomel if i was you.

[musclehead123]

Not sure how others feel, but I would use my first cycle as a bulker rather than a cutter, just because on your first cycle you'll see the best gains.

I also read somewhere the lower your bodyfat the better the sauce works for people.

[N00bBT]

Actually if you read my first post, i don't want to do a cycle, T3/clen is not considered a "gear" cycle and i don't want to use test

[gicantor]

Actually if you read my first post, i don't want to do a cycle, T3/clen is not considered a "gear" cycle and i don't want to use test

Your post is very confusing. If you don't want to use test why did you even mention it in your first post.

Anavar and winstrol shut you down. That is considered a cycle.

Any anabolic substance is going to shut you down. There is no magic formula that will give you the best of both worlds.

[theboss]

Your post is very confusing. If you don't want to use test why did you even mention it in your first post.

Anavar and winstrol shut you down. That is considered a cycle.

Any anabolic substance is going to shut you down. There is no magic formula that will give you the best of both worlds.

exactamundo

[N00bBT]

Sorry if i am confusing i am french. (no hating please)

In fact, i wanted to know if i could run clen/T3 without much muscle mass loss using no other compounds. If not, What would be the, softest, yet effective, best way to keep my muscle mass?

And when i did research test prop, was suggested everywhere, but i want to ask this question myself to see if i could run something other than test.

I hope this is clear.

[Delt King]

The answer seems simple...don't do T3 then you won't have to do Test.

Well instead of turning to more drugs for continued results just keep running clen and keep dieting hard and keep doing cardio. You won't mess with your own natural Test levels this way and there's no reason you can't keep cutting this way.

[Memo]

I am french as well. People here a very generous of their time and knowledge if ask good question.


Sorry if i am confusing i am french. (no hating please)

In fact, i wanted to know if i could run clen/T3 without much muscle mass loss using no other compounds. If not, What would be the, softest, yet effective, best way to keep my muscle mass?

And when i did research test prop, was suggested everywhere, but i want to ask this question myself to see if i could run something other than test.

I hope this is clear.