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Memo
04-09-2010, 12:24 PM
I have a friend telling me to run an oral or inject-able Winny during the last 2weeks of my cycle, after last shot of test.

It seems to me a counter productive idea since i would be hoping to let my test level go down slowly to let my body get ready to recovery.

any thought on this?

L3
04-09-2010, 01:33 PM
winny =! test

you can go ahead and do it

JifeLacket
04-09-2010, 01:35 PM
The oral winny will be cleared (as in not active/can start pct) in a day, one injection can be active for much longer (up to a week i think).

I agree with what you are thinking, after the last shot I would want to start recovering. You would basically be extending the cylce, so do you want to stop or keep going? If you want to keep going maybe run prop instead?

L3
04-09-2010, 01:39 PM
I agree with what you are thinking, after the last shot I would want to start recovering. You would basically be extending the cylce, so do you want to stop or keep going? If you want to keep going maybe run prop instead?

he is not extending the cycle, he is putting in another compound while the test ester is degrading.

winny or any other oral, or prop/suspension = doesnt matter. once the long ester is gone he can start pct.

bigtavi8
04-09-2010, 01:41 PM
This seems like a realitively new school of broscience that ive hear lately. U can run orals waiting for long ester injectables to clear. I dont buy it because the point is to clear the system of all exogenous forms of testosterone. The logic behind it sounds good but to me when im done a cycle after 16 or w.e weeks im done thats it. Done everything. HCG and pct and break. But some ppl say you can use IGF and gh/slin on pct if maintaining gains is ur idea here. low dose gh/slin provides some catabolism protection on pct i would imagine (and have heard but never done). Not a lot of exp with those last i proposed but seen a lot of talk on it on other boards.

JifeLacket
04-09-2010, 01:58 PM
he is not extending the cycle, he is putting in another compound while the test ester is degrading.

winny or any other oral, or prop/suspension = doesnt matter. once the long ester is gone he can start pct.

True I didn't word that properly :) Minimal 'natural' recovery would be seen anyways so mine as well add another compound until the ester is cleared like you say.

GYMBRAT
04-09-2010, 03:59 PM
This seems like a realitively new school of broscience that ive hear lately. U can run orals waiting for long ester injectables to clear. I dont buy it because the point is to clear the system of all exogenous forms of testosterone. The logic behind it sounds good but to me when im done a cycle after 16 or w.e weeks im done thats it. Done everything. HCG and pct and break. But some ppl say you can use IGF and gh/slin on pct if maintaining gains is ur idea here. low dose gh/slin provides some catabolism protection on pct i would imagine (and have heard but never done). Not a lot of exp with those last i proposed but seen a lot of talk on it on other boards.

true dat tav, when I'm done I'm done.....but then again am I ever off/done :hu

TryGear
04-09-2010, 09:16 PM
That being said I've never has any problem popping a few halo before a big session. No matter what part of the cycle I'm in

powerrack
04-09-2010, 10:45 PM
This seems like a realitively new school of broscience that ive hear lately. U can run orals waiting for long ester injectables to clear. I dont buy it because the point is to clear the system of all exogenous forms of testosterone. The logic behind it sounds good but to me when im done a cycle after 16 or w.e weeks im done thats it. Done everything. HCG and pct and break. But some ppl say you can use IGF and gh/slin on pct if maintaining gains is ur idea here. low dose gh/slin provides some catabolism protection on pct i would imagine (and have heard but never done). Not a lot of exp with those last i proposed but seen a lot of talk on it on other boards.

The thing is with long esters, the test is in your system anyways, you are not done really, so some people like to run a fast acting oral while the test clears. So you are not running the oral post cycle or after being done at all, you are still "on" week 17 and 18 usually depending on what ester you ran, so some decide to take an oral in that time frame. Personally I'm with you and once I stop what I'm doing I just stop and wait for it to clear and do pct. Not in the favor of orals overall either.

L3
05-09-2010, 12:08 PM
This seems like a realitively new school of broscience that ive hear lately. U can run orals waiting for long ester injectables to clear. I dont buy it because the point is to clear the system of all exogenous forms of testosterone. The logic behind it sounds good but to me when im done a cycle after 16 or w.e weeks im done thats it. Done everything. HCG and pct and break. But some ppl say you can use IGF and gh/slin on pct if maintaining gains is ur idea here. low dose gh/slin provides some catabolism protection on pct i would imagine (and have heard but never done). Not a lot of exp with those last i proposed but seen a lot of talk on it on other boards.

-this is not broscience

-clen exhibits anitcatabolic properties and can be used in minimal doses during PCT as Praetorian has said on this board a billion times.

-it amuses me how you bring up the idea of hgh/insulin for ****ING PCT

JifeLacket
05-09-2010, 12:20 PM
^ He didn't say for PCT alone, just additives to it. Agreed with your other points though haha.