On TRT and thinking about adding HGH..........

[hardcore holly]

I've been on TRT for 1 year now...........
100mg/wk Testosterone Cyp injected EOD (every other day) Sub Q
1.25mg/wk arimidex taken @ .25mg Mon - Fri
hCG 250iu EOD

I'm 44 5'11" 180 lbs and in very good shape (very little body fat)

Labs are all good, feeling pretty good and considering adding HGH. I was hoping for some feedback from those who have added HGH.

Is it worth the additional cost?
What added benefit can I expect from the addition of HGH?

* Just saw Stallone recently (walking poster boy for HGH) and thought WOW this dude is 64 and looking awesome! Well aside from the bad cosmetic surgery ;o)

Also, what other worthwhile hormones etc should I be adding to the mix to look/feel my best???
DHEA?
Melatonin?
other hormones?
Doses???

Thanks in advance!

[ironwill]

With gh, you can stay on trt and still make gains....You can eat more and make the food more anabolic with less fat build up at the same time.....IMO, it is worth it especially after mid 30s...YOU WILL see a difference...2 ius /day is decent for your purpose...

[GYMBRAT]

x2 will make ya happy :D

[MrFrench]

Can you please confirm. 100mg/wk total of testosterone or 100mg EOD as in 400mg/wk?

[hardcore holly]

100mg total (105mg to be precise).....shots taken 30/mg EOD with insulin pin sub Q (quads and shoulders)
400mg/wk is not TRT it's a "cycle"

*FWIW I was planning to stay on TRT, not substitute the HGH for it.....continue what I'm doing, perhaps throw in a small cycle once a year. The go right back on my TRT. No PCT, how cool is that!

Thanks for the input boyz! 2iu's it is........................any comments on the other hormones? DHEA?

[hardcore holly]

OT....Hey ironwill are www.Trueprotein.com (http://www.trueprotein.com/)'s products solid? You use them?
I generally buy from http://www.supplementscanada.ca/
Good selection, good prices but I like the idea of playing mad scientist and mixing my own products :o)

[#8]

I only used GH for a couple months and it felt amazing after only a few weeks. As soon as I can afford it I will run it and never come off.

Best sleeps of my life. Its worth it just for the incredible deep sleeps and waking up feeling refreshed every single day.

[hardcore holly]

#8 were you running it with a cycle or are you on TRT?
How much were you taking?

[ironwill]

OT....Hey ironwill are www.Trueprotein.com (http://www.trueprotein.com/)'s products solid? You use them?
I generally buy from http://www.supplementscanada.ca/
Good selection, good prices but I like the idea of playing mad scientist and mixing my own products :o)


Yes.... I am sponsored by trueprotein, BUT.....I have used their products since their opening, The last yr, I have used Trueprotein exclusively for all of my supplements. They are solid as they come IMO...I really enjoy shopping through their large selections, and knowing it is a quality product...It is fun creating your own blends i agree.....


As far as trt, I think you will enjoy the GH along with the test.....As long as its quality gh, 2 ius will definitely be noticed bro....Im 40 this yr, and really find it to be beneficial....

[zziggzzigg]

how is your libido and erections on that 105mg a week? is it reliable? do you feel like having sex every day or less often?

[tiramisu]

I found hgh effective @ 2-4 iu's in terms of slightly improved body composition on a higher calorie intake. That said at the price I find dragging a tire in the parking lot just as effective and significantly cheaper.

[hardcore holly]

Libido is good, erections are often and yes I feel like sex daily.....generally have sex daily:tu

[hardcore holly]

tiramisu interesting feedback....you obviously don't think it's worth the price.
I've been told that for "anti aging" combined with TRT, it's the shit! I guess there are a lot more benefits than just aesthetics. I think that's what I'm trying to figure out here.....are all the supposed and reported benefits combined worth the price???

[tiramisu]

I'm in my early 40's and have tried it for a long enough period to note the effect and the benefits are real but a good diet and some gpp work really do have the same effect as 2-4 iu's.

If I was a nationally competitive bodybuilder trying to get the last 1% out of my physique dialed in, and my training, diet and aas abuse was already in place I would start to see value. As a early 40's intermediate lifter it doesn't give me bang for the buck. dbol, deca/tren, testosterone are obscenely efficient and so much less expensive that hgh really doesn't make much sense.

I personally believe the extra 5k per year is money better spent on steak, fish, chicken breasts, milk and eggs.

[hardcore holly]

gpp???

[tiramisu]

General Physical Preparedness - Drag a Sled, Farmer's Walk, Sprint Interval, Push a truck.
2 a weeks of this will increase your work capacity and improve your body composition. Beats the shit out of walking on a treadmill.

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/general_physical_preparedness.htm

[GYMBRAT]

HGH has much more benefits than just "physical appearance" and one cant get them bonus effects from just AAS and diet alone... no offense T, just my own personal opinion (HGH..The fountain of youth) :)

[tiramisu]

I guess I'm a naturally "youthful" 43 then, as at the dosage described the results provided were a sllight body composition improvement and slight improvement in recovery. Less tightness in diet required.

I listened to a couple of 20'ish kids talking about the magical benefits of hgh earlier this week and shook my head and kept lifting.

The benefits @ 2-4 iu's are subtle. The Canadian prices are obscene.

If it were inexpensive I'd use it like creatine and protein powder but it's a big expense for the result. If I need more anabolic response I'll increase the test and if I need better body composition I'll tighten up the diet and add some exercise.

[GYMBRAT]

yeah your right on on the dosage part for sure......Totally gotta laugh at all the kids and HGH!!! Its like 17 yr olds thinking they NEED an energy drink to go on through out the day....aka, my 17 yr old son