Need some good bro cycle advice

[bottleneckblooz]

Ok I am planning a cycle soon, and I'm looking for some advice. I was thinking of doing 12weeks, the first 6 weeks I wanted to diet and lose about 10lbs of fat. Then the last 6 weeks I was going to increase my calories just enough to start putting on lean size. Originally I was looking at running about 500mg of test, with about 300mg of EQ, and somewhere around 300-375mg of Masteron. For the test I can either run Enanthate, or Omnas.

1. Which one of these 2 tests would be best to run with that type of cycle?

2. Is EQ and Masteron a good combo for that type of cycle?

3. I also want to add in some Albuterol at the beginning to help with the fat loss. How long should I run that for and at what dose?

Thanks

[theboss]

why dont you diet first....lose the weight.......

then do your cycle

do you have any experience?

[bottleneckblooz]

why dont you diet first....lose the weight.......

then do your cycle

do you have any experience?

Actually I have been dieting for the last 2 months or so, already lost 20lbs. I just wanted to lose another 10, but bring in some muscle hardness at the same time.

Experience? Dieting or AAS? I haven't cycled much at all. This will basically be my second "real" cycle. Last cycle I just did 500 of test with a Dbol kickstart, but I think the Dbol was crap.

[Bowlcut]

Well I think you should cut down BEFORE you cycle. Having more BF on you will increase estrogenic side effects from test. Cut down by eliminating all grains and dairy from your diet and only using protein and other amino acids PWO. Maybe run clen or albuterol if you feel like it but I would suggest the natural route is best.

After that I would recommend prop and winny for 8 weeks OR 500mg of test with 400 mg of EQ for 16 weeks with winny ran at 25mg at the beginning and end.

[bottleneckblooz]

After that I would recommend prop and winny for 8 weeks OR 500mg of test with 400 mg of EQ for 16 weeks with winny ran at 25mg at the beginning and end.


Winstrol at the beginning and end for how long each? Like the first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks? And I assume you mean 25 mg/day?

[theboss]

i stand by what i said...diet down first.....
nothing wrong with a simple ECA stack and cardio

[bottleneckblooz]

So what about the Albuterol? What is the best way to start taking it? Start with a small dose and build up? The tabs are 4mg each.

[bigdaddydrew123]

there are some merits to starting while dieting, you usually eat more protein more often which translates to growth . plus dieting can be catabolic , anabolics change that.if you keep carbs low add efas drink lots of h2o you can lean up and grow at same time. keep in mind eq can make you hungry. id run test e like you said. eq is good but might be hard to control your appetite. masteron is good for hardness but you wont see that unless your really lean.

[GTZ3]

Agree with most here, diet first, cycle later.

[waderow]

diet first. If you dont, you will bloat up so bad youll look like the michelin man. Major moon face. Get to 12%ish max. Use T3, and clenbuterol and really watch your diet. Cardio 4-5 times per week. Loose that fat, then hit the juice and maintain a clean diet. You will shed that last 3-4% you want to and youll look great.
I would consider running Masteron alone. Had a friend who had great results to lose weight and build a little muscle.

[bottleneckblooz]

there are some merits to starting while dieting, you usually eat more protein more often which translates to growth . plus dieting can be catabolic , anabolics change that.if you keep carbs low add efas drink lots of h2o you can lean up and grow at same time. keep in mind eq can make you hungry. id run test e like you said. eq is good but might be hard to control your appetite. masteron is good for hardness but you wont see that unless your really lean.

Should I swap the Masteron for Winny?

[shithead]

Bowlcut has some very good points, but I dont like winny anymore.
Looking back, I had more injuries on that drug than any other. I would be in constant pain, looked awesome though.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Should I swap the Masteron for Winny?
for a lean bulker id do tren. but sides can be hard for some. just start tren a low dose. maybe 50 eod see how that goes.youll be a cranky dieter but best results by far. winnie would be my second choice. just dont train too heavy as it dries your joints out.

[bottleneckblooz]

for a lean bulker id do tren. but sides can be hard for some. just start tren a low dose. maybe 50 eod see how that goes.youll be a cranky dieter but best results by far. winnie would be my second choice. just dont train too heavy as it dries your joints out.

Yeah I heard the sides from tren can be pretty rough. The biggest thing I'm worried is the "crankiness" like you said. The last thing I need is to tell off my boss lol. He gets on my nerves sometimes enough as it is.

But I heard the results can be amazing as well so it is tempting to try it.

[bigdaddydrew123]

well you could do 1 of two things try tren if it gets too much swap for winnie. or just do the winnie with your test. i made awsome results from winnie and test. keep in mind with tren you can control your emotions just remind yourself, its the tren. but i didnt think it was too bad.