Testosterone enhancers

[ebrown]

i currently am taking ultimate nutrition's ZMA. I am just wondering if there is a better product out there for testosterone boosters.

[ironwill]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18962

check the 2 products on this page...

[natenator]

I hear suspension is a pretty good booster lol

[physique]

test freak or arimidex xt by BPI are good aswell

[canuckinfuts]

Isn't Test Freak just tribulus and ZMA?

[physique]

Isn't Test Freak just tribulus and ZMA?

120 Hybrid Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size4Capsules
Servings Per Container30

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine HCl) 10.5mg 525%
Magnesium (As Magnesium Aspartate) 90mg 23%
Zinc (As Zinc Aspartate) 30mg 200%

Test Freak Hybrid Pro-Testosterone Formula 3140.5mg
(Promotes Unbound Bioactive Testosterone) 1100mg †

TESTOFEN® Fenugreek (Trigonella Foenum Graecum) (Seed) Standardized To 50% (350 Mg) Fenuside™ 700mg
TRIGOTEST™ Fenugreek (Trigonella Foenum Graecum) (Seed) Standardized To 20% (80 Mg) Testosides™ 400mg

Methyl Gallate Ester Testosterone Matrix 1000mg †
(Promotes Natural Testosterone Production Via Luteinizing Hormone Release)

Tribulus Terrestris - Methyl Gallate Ester 1000mg
Standardized To Maximum 60% (600 Mg) Saponins /20% (200 Mg) Protodioscin

Zinc-Test™ Support Complex 610.5mg †
(Provides Clinically Proven Building Blocks Of Testosterone)
Zinc Aspartate, Magnesium Aspartate, Vitamin B6

DHT Control Complex 280mg †
(Supports Testosterone-To-DHT Conversion Control)

Saw Palmetto Extract (Serenoa Repens) 160mg
Standardized To Free Fatty Acids And Sterols

Stinging Nettle Extract (Urtica Dioica) 120mg

Aromatase Regulation Support Complex 150mg †
(Supports Testosterone-To-Estrogen Conversion Control)
[(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(3-Hydroxy-4-Methoxyphenyl-4-H-1-Benzopyran-4-One]5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-4H-1-Benzopyran-4-One Trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystillbene

[canuckinfuts]

Does any simple explanation for this exist:

[(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(3-Hydroxy-4-Methoxyphenyl-4-H-1-Benzopyran-4-One]5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-4H-1-Benzopyran-4-One Trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystillbene

[bigtavi8]

Does any simple explanation for this exist:

[(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(3-Hydroxy-4-Methoxyphenyl-4-H-1-Benzopyran-4-One]5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-4H-1-Benzopyran-4-One Trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystillbene

=low quality snake oil

[bigtavi8]

But like phys was saying the test freak by Pharmafreak, also i have heard good things about the Fusion Zeus and the T-BOL (not real tbol)

[deserran]

i currently am taking ultimate nutrition's ZMA. I am just wondering if there is a better product out there for testosterone boosters.


zma only helped me with sleep. Activate extreme or Bioforge by Biotivia are great.

[Andre Gregoire]

I would keep the zinc before bedtime and add D-aspartic acid like Ironwill said. The rest is bunk in my opinion.

[MrFrench]

I had my test level checked while running Test Freak and it came in very low. If Test Freak raised it at all it must have been nearly non-existent to start with.

[canuckinfuts]

how did you have your test tested?

[MrFrench]

how did you have your test tested?

Regular blood work. I asked my doctor to have it checked.

[tiramisu]

I'm told that managing your body composition is a pretty good start. Test Boosters are 99.9% bullshit and .1% not terribly effective.

[Timbo89]

arimedex HD by BPI is the only one ive heard actual good feedback on from friends.

[bigtavi8]

The old nolvadex with 6oxo or even the new one available at physique(great service/price) probobly would work best of all i have tried. The Universal Animal Test booster was not too bad either and gave a slight strength edge.

[juced_porkchop]

Formadrol Extreme from LG is pritty nice.
also the T-911 if youhimbine is ok with you.

[alvin1]

Does any simple explanation for this exist:

[(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(3-Hydroxy-4-Methoxyphenyl-4-H-1-Benzopyran-4-One]5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-4H-1-Benzopyran-4-One Trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystillbene

I found about 2 ingredients:

One is :
HESPERIDIN, it is in the Isa-test Formula by Isatori ( I ran the 1 and second version of it ) It is suppose to reduce estrogen. I did notice I look leaner when I used Isa -test , so this anti- estrogen must work. Hunger was up also

the other one is Trans Resveratrol, serve as a anti:hu- Estrogen also.

I am pretty happy that I just order 2 test freak, since Isa-test is the best test booter I have try yet !

[alvin1]

I found about 2 ingredients:

One is :
HESPERIDIN, it is in the Isa-test Formula by Isatori ( I ran the 1 and second version of it ) It is suppose to reduce estrogen. I did notice I look leaner when I used Isa -test , so this anti- estrogen must work. Hunger was up also

the other one is Trans Resveratrol, serve as a anti:hu- Estrogen also.

I am pretty happy that I just order 2 test freak, since Isa-test is the best test booter I have try yet !

The other one is Chamomile:
Apigenin: Found in most species of Chamomile, the flavone apigenin is also a safe and effective aromatase inhibitor, with an inhibitory effectiveness about equal to chrysin. (2)

[Rix]

Check out the thread about Neogenix Supremacy.
You might wanna give that one a try !

[IronMan]

I found about 2 ingredients:

One is :
HESPERIDIN, it is in the Isa-test Formula by Isatori ( I ran the 1 and second version of it ) It is suppose to reduce estrogen. I did notice I look leaner when I used Isa -test , so this anti- estrogen must work. Hunger was up also

the other one is Trans Resveratrol, serve as a anti:hu- Estrogen also.

I am pretty happy that I just order 2 test freak, since Isa-test is the best test booter I have try yet !

That formulation of Hesperidin is 6-OXO in a nutshell.

[alvin1]

That formulation of Hesperidin is 6-OXO in a nutshell.

HUM........I taugh 6-0x0 was more of a chemical anti estrogen compare to Heperidin who seem to be comming from citrus fruit ?!

[juced_porkchop]

I love T-911 for labido and HCGenerate also to help raise T levels.

[joh]

I am on HCGenerate (to up the test) and Unleashed (to free up the test) now. Love the stack.

[Ehrhoff]

Nobody has tried Icon by starchem labs? Apparently it's not available in Canada anymore, but I had little trouble finding it.

[IronMan]

HUM........I taugh 6-0x0 was more of a chemical anti estrogen compare to Heperidin who seem to be comming from citrus fruit ?!

Yes 6-OXO is an anti estrogen and a natural testosterone booster, but it is naturally derived. Google it lol.

[dainbramaged]

Hmm, read the wikipedia info on 6-oxo. Interesting, if true, about the Health Canada info and how it was banned because of one single incident and the adverse reaction could very well have been coincidental.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione

Health Canada info:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2008/2008_93-eng.php

[Greek_God]

Don't know if anyone can answer me but, did any legal test booster was PROVEN to raise testosterone and at 25, could I get any benifits from it?

[Nordic Enhancer]

Isn't Test Freak just tribulus and ZMA?


love this comment your relatively informed man, good for a consumer.

[Nordic Enhancer]

I am on HCGenerate (to up the test) and Unleashed (to free up the test) now. Love the stack.

unstoppable ****ing combo...

also throw in post cycle.

needtobuildmuscle.com

always has a powerful OTC PCT!

nothing better.

[grifter]

Not too impressed with Test Freak yet. Increased the dose from 2pills 2x/day to 3pills 2x/day.

[juced_porkchop]

Formadrol (Forma-D) and T-911 are a good stack.
I LOVE T-911 for a lil labido boost.

[red rocket]

Sorry I didnt read all the pages, but the BEST test booster I have ever personally used is Ultimate Nutrition Tribulus. and only theirs.

Juicey I love your god damned avi, thank you.

[UKBodybuilder]

I'm actually just a little curious about Test Freak and it's anti-aromatase compounds. The ingredients are similar to that of the other product "arimedex HD".
It seems to have a lot of methyl and dihydroxy compounds.

(S)-2,3-Dihydro-5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(3-Hydroxy-4-Methoxyphenyl-4-H-1-Benzopyran-4-One]5,7-Dihydroxy-2-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-4H-1-Benzopyran-4-One Trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystillbene

Was just wondering about how this compound has effects on the body? I've tried researching and can't find much at all. Can it cause negative feedback of testosterone, post-use?

[grifter]

Just thought I would post this article regarding D-Aspartic Acid and the possibility of increased estrogen.

Don't use a D-Aspartic Acid supplement until you read this article, you could be actually doing more harm than good! D-Aspartic Acid is all the rage right now in sports supplements. it has the potential to boost testosterone via multiple pathways, but there is a hidden danger that ALL people need to know about when using this popular bodybuilding product. That danger is from increased estrogen production via aromatase.

D-Aspartic Acid and it's analogs D-Sodium-Asparate and N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid are becoming very popular with bodybuilders looking to boost their testosterone to the very highest levels. However this has a very ugly side effect that could potentially make this innocent supplement the devil in disguise. It works by increasing something called steroidogenic acute regulatory (StAR) protein, which is a critical enzyme in the production of testosterone. It is found in the testes and is a rate limiting step in the creation of testosterone. Increasing the activity of StAR is one of the main ways that DAA helps the body make more testosterone and it was shown in human studies that D-Aspartic Acid can give roughly a 30% increase in testosterone production! This is amazing for a completely natural product, but that boost in testosterone has one downside that may actually be making your situation worse! The good news is that if reversed, it could actually make the conversion to testosterone even higher and could boost your testosterone levels above 30%!

Aromatase is a nasty enzyme that is responsible for converting testosterone to estrogen in the body. It is what robs the bodybuilder of the robust effects of testosterone and changes the balance of your hormones. As we age, we produce even more aromatase and that is often why you see men getting fat, soft and flabby as they get older. Aromatase and it's end product estrogen are the enemy of any man wanting to keep that rock hard physique and feel his best! Unfortunately it seems that the "holy grail" of supplements D-Aspartic Acid may actually cause the body to produce more aromatase, which is something you definitely don't want! Making all of that extra testosterone isn't going to do you much good if a large part of it converts to estrogen in the body, so you want to stop that from happening! It has been shown in the literature that D-Aspartic Acid can increase testicular aromatase levels, making your testosterone to estrogen ratio sub par (1,2,3) which can certainly be an issue for the bodybuilder. Luckily, you can add in some very potent aromatase inhibitors that will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by binding and locking up aromatase! You will want to use a combination of a competitive inhibitor of aromatase and a suicide inhibitor of aromatase to maximize the benefits of D-Aspartic Acid!

Two aromatase inhibitors are on the market that will do the job quite nicely and they are very potent. The combination of these should give you all the boost you need to really check the aromatase enzyme and keep estrogen levels down! That combined with a pure D-Aspartic Acid product will give you a solid one-two punch that will deliver results! The first ingredient is 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One, which is a competitive inhibitor of aromatase that is in the same potency range as prescription drugs used by bodybuilders to reduce estrogen, like Arimidex(R). 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One has a very strong affinity for the aromatase enzyme, giving an almost drug like inhibition! This will work great with D-Aspartic Acid and it's analog N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid at reducing that testicular aromatase and increasing testosterone even further. The competitive inhibitor will benefit from a suicide inhibitor, which are getting harder to find these days! The only one really left on the market is 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid, which is a fairly weak suicide inhibitor, but it is very effective in combination with the above mentioned 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One! The combination of these two is a very good addition to any D-Aspartic Acid cycle and should always be used in my opinion.

One product on the market has both 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One and 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid in addition to Ginger extract which should also supercharge the effects of D-Aspartic Acid and that is Formadrol Extreme from LG Sciences (also called Forma-D on some web sites). Ginger increases conversion of cholesterol to testosterone as well, making it a natural stack with D-Aspartic Acid. So, Formadrol has it all when it comes to being stacked with D-Aspartic Acid and the only formula that I know of that has both aromatase inhibitors.

So, there you have it! D-Aspartic Acid is an exciting supplement that can certainly increase testosterone, but it should be stacked with aromatase inhibitors for maximal effects!

References:

1) Amino Acids. 2007 Jan;32(1):45-51. Epub 2006 Jun 1. Involvement of D-Asp in P450 aromatase activity and estrogen receptors in boar testis. Lamanna C, Assisi L, Botte V, Di Fiore MM. Department of Life Sciences, Second University of Naples, Caserta, Italy.

2) J Endocrinol Invest. 2006 Feb;29(2):141-6. Endogenous testicular D-aspartic acid regulates gonadal aromatase activity in boar. Lamanna C, Assisi L, Botte V, Di Fiore MM. Department of Zoology, University of Naples 'Federico II', Naples, Italy.

3) Reproduction. 2001 May;121(5):803-8. Enhancement of aromatase activity by D-aspartic acid in the ovary of the lizard Podarcis s. sicula. Assisi L, Botte V, D'Aniello A, Di Fiore MM. Department of Zoology, Faculty of Science, University of Naples, Via Mezzocannone 8, 80134 Naples, Italy.

Formadrol (Forma-D) can be found at:
lgsciences.com/Testosterone-Booster-p/formadrol-extreme.htm
Erin Raad reviews sports supplements and supplement ingredients. He can be found hanging out at
mindandmuscle.net
Erin Raad's opinions are not unbiased nor impartial however the research is valid and appropriate for commentary on herbal supplements.

[wan2lrn]

[QUOTE=grifter;406772]Just thought I would post this article regarding D-Aspartic Acid and the possibility of increased estrogen.

Don't use a D-Aspartic Acid supplement until you read this article, you could be actually doing more harm than good! D-Aspartic Acid is all the rage right now in sports supplements. it has the potential to boost testosterone via multiple pathways, but there is a hidden danger that ALL people need to know about when using this popular bodybuilding product. That danger is from increased estrogen production via aromatase.

D-Aspartic Acid and it's analogs D-Sodium-Asparate and N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid are becoming very popular with bodybuilders looking to boost their testosterone to the very highest levels. However this has a very ugly side effect that could potentially make this innocent supplement the devil in disguise. It works by increasing something called steroidogenic acute regulatory (StAR) protein, which is a critical enzyme in the production of testosterone. It is found in the testes and is a rate limiting step in the creation of testosterone. Increasing the activity of StAR is one of the main ways that DAA helps the body make more testosterone and it was shown in human studies that D-Aspartic Acid can give roughly a 30% increase in testosterone production! This is amazing for a completely natural product, but that boost in testosterone has one downside that may actually be making your situation worse! The good news is that if reversed, it could actually make the conversion to testosterone even higher and could boost your testosterone levels above 30%!

Aromatase is a nasty enzyme that is responsible for converting testosterone to estrogen in the body. It is what robs the bodybuilder of the robust effects of testosterone and changes the balance of your hormones. As we age, we produce even more aromatase and that is often why you see men getting fat, soft and flabby as they get older. Aromatase and it's end product estrogen are the enemy of any man wanting to keep that rock hard physique and feel his best! Unfortunately it seems that the "holy grail" of supplements D-Aspartic Acid may actually cause the body to produce more aromatase, which is something you definitely don't want! Making all of that extra testosterone isn't going to do you much good if a large part of it converts to estrogen in the body, so you want to stop that from happening! It has been shown in the literature that D-Aspartic Acid can increase testicular aromatase levels, making your testosterone to estrogen ratio sub par (1,2,3) which can certainly be an issue for the bodybuilder. Luckily, you can add in some very potent aromatase inhibitors that will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by binding and locking up aromatase! You will want to use a combination of a competitive inhibitor of aromatase and a suicide inhibitor of aromatase to maximize the benefits of D-Aspartic Acid!

Two aromatase inhibitors are on the market that will do the job quite nicely and they are very potent. The combination of these should give you all the boost you need to really check the aromatase enzyme and keep estrogen levels down! That combined with a pure D-Aspartic Acid product will give you a solid one-two punch that will deliver results! The first ingredient is 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One, which is a competitive inhibitor of aromatase that is in the same potency range as prescription drugs used by bodybuilders to reduce estrogen, like Arimidex(R). 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One has a very strong affinity for the aromatase enzyme, giving an almost drug like inhibition! This will work great with D-Aspartic Acid and it's analog N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid at reducing that testicular aromatase and increasing testosterone even further. The competitive inhibitor will benefit from a suicide inhibitor, which are getting harder to find these days! The only one really left on the market is 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid, which is a fairly weak suicide inhibitor, but it is very effective in combination with the above mentioned 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One! The combination of these two is a very good addition to any D-Aspartic Acid cycle and should always be used in my opinion.

One product on the market has both 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One and 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid in addition to Ginger extract which should also supercharge the effects of D-Aspartic Acid and that is Formadrol Extreme from LG Sciences (also called Forma-D on some web sites). Ginger increases conversion of cholesterol to testosterone as well, making it a natural stack with D-Aspartic Acid. So, Formadrol has it all when it comes to being stacked with D-Aspartic Acid and the only formula that I know of that has both aromatase inhibitors.

So, there you have it! D-Aspartic Acid is an exciting supplement that can certainly increase testosterone, but it should be stacked with aromatase inhibitors for maximal effects!

References:

1) Amino Acids. 2007 Jan;32(1):45-51. Epub 2006 Jun 1. Involvement of D-Asp in P450 aromatase activity and estrogen receptors in boar testis. Lamanna C, Assisi L, Botte V, Di Fiore MM. Department of Life Sciences, Second University of Naples, Caserta, Italy.

2) J Endocrinol Invest. 2006 Feb;29(2):141-6. Endogenous testicular D-aspartic acid regulates gonadal aromatase activity in boar. Lamanna C, Assisi L, Botte V, Di Fiore MM. Department of Zoology, University of Naples 'Federico II', Naples, Italy.

3) Reproduction. 2001 May;121(5):803-8. Enhancement of aromatase activity by D-aspartic acid in the ovary of the lizard Podarcis s. sicula. Assisi L, Botte V, D'Aniello A, Di Fiore MM. Department of Zoology, Faculty of Science, University of Naples, Via Mezzocannone 8, 80134 Naples, Italy.

Formadrol (Forma-D) can be found at:
lgsciences.com/Testosterone-Booster-p/formadrol-extreme.htm
Erin Raad reviews sports supplements and supplement ingredients. He can be found hanging out at mindandmuscle.net

Erin Raad's opinions are not unbiased nor impartial however the research is valid and appropriate for commentary on herbal supplements.

QUOTE]

I was considering using this supplement (DAA) until I heard what this article is stating. The only problem for me is that this article seems more like an advertisement for formadrol by LG Sciences and therefore holds no truth to me. Has anyone found any studies proving the estrogen increase from using DAA.