Confirm or Deny

[TryGear]

still playing around with the next bulker, so hear's what I know:

1. 600-750 of Test E for sure 20 wks "I like long cycles"
2. 60-Dbol for 4-6 weeks as a kicker
3. 450 deca weeks 1-16

now the confirm or deny part:

1. tren and deca together is bad??
2. tren will give more strenght than deca??
3. Deca adds more water weight.

I've done tren ace before and loved it with no sides at all. never tried deca yet, but figured the standard bulk cycle is dbol,deca,test. I love tren, but already have the deca.
thoughts please.

[TryGear]

"crickets" anyone have experiances or thoughts on using deca/tren together. I know they're both prone to progestin sides, but we stack two things that both cause estrogen sides?

[macka]

Its been done, the guy I know who did it is no longer on the board. I believe he had aromasin on hand in case he ran into sides. He did real good on that cycle, and didn't get puffy after. He ran a tight diet throughout and during his PCT. He put on a solid 20 pounds after all was said and done.

[natenator]

Aromasin won't do Jack progesterone related sides from tren or deca.

I personally would not run 2 19 nor drugs unless you are quote advanced in your cycle history.

[Delt King]

I know a guy who ran NPP and Fina together and had nipple leakage...he hopped on cabergoline and was good to go after that thankfully.

[TryGear]

Leakage, ok, that's about the scariest aas story I've heard yet,

[MMASTAR]

gotta agree with nate on this one, wouldnt run the two together, u have the deca so use it, make sure you have dostinex or bromo on hand for progesterone sides as well as your ai for the estro sides from test. since its such a long cycle you could run the deca for 16 weeks and finish with tren ace for the last 4-8 weeks... 4 is kinda short but it is a quick acting ester.

[L3]

I know a guy who ran NPP and Fina together and had nipple leakage...he hopped on cabergoline and was good to go after that thankfully.

yah well some of us dont need 19-nors to have that shit happen

[Mr Ontario]

Would definitely need Caber/Dosinex for sure..


I know a guy who ran NPP and Fina together and had nipple leakage...he hopped on cabergoline and was good to go after that thankfully.

[TryGear]

Not that I won't have caber / dos onhand but is deca that much more likely to have sides than tren? I've ran tren ace as high as 500/wk before with no sides

[natenator]

Not that I won't have caber / dos onhand but is deca that much more likely to have sides than tren? I've ran tren ace as high as 500/wk before with no sides
you may think you had no sides. What were blood test and kidney function results when you were done?

[JonnyO]

still playing around with the next bulker, so hear's what I know:

1. 600-750 of Test E for sure 20 wks "I like long cycles"
2. 60-Dbol for 4-6 weeks as a kicker
3. 450 deca weeks 1-16

now the confirm or deny part:

1. tren and deca together is bad??
2. tren will give more strenght than deca??
3. Deca adds more water weight.

I've done tren ace before and loved it with no sides at all. never tried deca yet, but figured the standard bulk cycle is dbol,deca,test. I love tren, but already have the deca.
thoughts please.

20 weeks? I dont understand these long cycles...you telling me you continue to make gains all the way through weeks 1 - 20? IMHO the gains stop around weeks 8-12 tops, then you will either have to decide to up the dose, add something or lower it and come off. Cycles should be more dynamic rather than static.

[TryGear]

you may think you had no sides. What were blood test and kidney function results when you were done?


Liver was at the high end of normal and kidney was middle of normal range.

[beserker]

Not that I won't have caber / dos onhand but is deca that much more likely to have sides than tren? I've ran tren ace as high as 500/wk before with no sides

I think it all depends on the person....myself i dont touch deca with a ten foot pole as i quickly turn into the stay puff marshmallow man but tren on the other hand (same diet followed) i get hard as hell and put on good size quickly

[TryGear]

so that being said does anyone like deca?

[Adonis13]

i like deca...but i like eq better

[TryGear]

i like deca...but i like eq better

can you give some or your reasons?

[Adonis13]

i tried deca a few times at different dosages. the least was 300 a wk the most was 600.
after trying eq instead of deca i had less sides and felt better, my mood was more calm and my strength gains were just as good. acne was the #1 reason why i like eq better.

[Memo]

deca gave me the worst acnee, and i still have scars