Trenbolone Enanthate

[thelittleguy]

I'm running a long estered Tren for the first time, and was wondering how you guys split up your doses, and what doses you have found success with. i've run two cycles of tren ace before, however this will be the first go at a long ester.

[shithead]

every 2-3 days

[simon85]

I do twice a week(every 3.5 day)

So Monday evening and Friday morning(2X200mg)

[Kilburn]

listen to simon. 2x per week is supposed to be the best for stable blood levels. you can get away with 1x per week but 2x is better.

[IronRobi]

twice a week here too. Sunday and Wednesday

[bmorlock]

twice a week

[St]

When i'm done my tren ace,i will go with tren E and do one shot a week,shit man if you have the coin do it every day or load up a 10cc needle twice a week..;)

[shithead]

When i'm done my tren ace,i will go with tren E and do one shot a week,shit man if you have the coin do it every day or load up a 10cc needle twice a week..;)


You crazy bastard ^ lol

Tren enanthate has a long half life and due to it being a 19-Nor, it tends to shut you down hard. You're looking at three weeks before you can start PCT and then another 2-4 months before you recover. Some ppl may react differently.

[td1111]

You crazy bastard ^ lol

Tren enanthate has a long half life and due to it being a 19-Nor, it tends to shut you down hard. You're looking at three weeks before you can start PCT and then another 2-4 months before you recover. Some ppl may react differently.

That long to recover? Have people been checking their test levels after a tren cycle and noticing suppressed levels for that long?

Just out of curiousoty, why is tren more suppressive than test?

[shithead]

Its a derivative of 19-nortestosterone, actually its identical to Deca except for a c9/c11 double bond. The c9 serves to prevent aromatization and the c11 to increase AR binding.

Nandrolone is widely known to be supper suppressive to the HPTA.

I should've said "totally recover" meaning test levels back and sperm production back.

[bigdaddydrew123]

even tren a only is a long recovery. i dropped test for show ran tren only for last 4 weeks, its not fun, absolutely no interest whatsoever, so run that test longer than tren, then do pct, or just keep test going lol

[shithead]

good advice. While you're waiting for the tren to clear for pct, run a short ester test.

[td1111]

What would be a good protocol to jump start with Tren acetate, while the Tren E kicks in....and how could you slowly transition back to tren ace so you can stop it and enter PCT fast?

[MassNutrition]

I punch my shit ED or atleast EOD, no matter what the ester is. My blood serum levels can't get anymore level and stable than that...

I'm currently running Tren Hex and I'm having the cycle of my life (along with 4 other goodies, GH, IGF, etc). My vascularity in my arms and shoulders is insane. I even have veins where my elbows flex, and I feel "hard" all the time too (I'm guessing this could also be the synergy of the Masteron and EQ too).

But like I said, I shoot ED or EOD... I even shoot my EQ EOD at 200mg per to give me 800mg for the week. The injection volume per shot is just more comfortable this way for me.

[L3]

pics?


My vascularity in my arms and shoulders is insane. I even have veins where my elbows flex, and I feel "hard" all the time too (I'm guessing this could also be the synergy of the Masteron and EQ too).

[Mr.Meat]

EOD its the only way to get a good dose going (if you need a good dose that is). Soon I'm gonna start 500mg teat e and 300mg tren e EOD and see what happens. lol

[shithead]

I punch my shit ED or atleast EOD, no matter what the ester is. My blood serum levels can't get anymore level and stable than that...

I'm currently running Tren Hex and I'm having the cycle of my life (along with 4 other goodies, GH, IGF, etc). My vascularity in my arms and shoulders is insane. I even have veins where my elbows flex, and I feel "hard" all the time too (I'm guessing this could also be the synergy of the Masteron and EQ too).

But like I said, I shoot ED or EOD... I even shoot my EQ EOD at 200mg per to give me 800mg for the week. The injection volume per shot is just more comfortable this way for me.

I agree... long esters just use less volume but more frequency. Levels will be as stable as they will ever be.

[IronRobi]

EOD its the only way to get a good dose going (if you need a good dose that is). Soon I'm gonna start 500mg teat e and 300mg tren e EOD and see what happens. lol

Did I read that wrong? really going to do 300mg of tren eod? That's roughly 1050mg/week, a shitload of tren!

[Mr.Meat]

Did I read that wrong? really going to do 300mg of tren eod? That's roughly 1050mg/week, a shitload of tren!

Sorry to be a smart ass about this... but

Not really if you take into account the weight of the enanthate easter as compared to the acetate easter. Basicly without going into details 1000mg of tren enanthate is approx. 700mg of tren Acetate. So thats ~100mg of tren acetate every day. A fairly common dose (upper end).

Whats a shitload is the total gear per week 2800mg/wk. The most I have ever ran.

[frenchy]

I agree with "punching your shit ed or eod" no matter what the ester. theoretically it keeps the levels the most steady. The 2.8 G's of tren on the other hand I wont comment much on. Better get some rubber sheets or something... And get a script for some valium so ya can sleep.

[Mr.Meat]

I agree with "punching your shit ed or eod" no matter what the ester. theoretically it keeps the levels the most steady. The 2.8 G's of tren on the other hand I wont comment much on. Better get some rubber sheets or something... And get a script for some valium so ya can sleep.

Its not 2.8gs of tren. its "only" 1g of tren and the rest test.

[canadianmuscle0803]

monday morning and thursday night, which makes every 3.5 days.. usually 200mg each shot.. which makes 400mg a week.. you could go higher but only if your advanced.. tren can be harsh..

[gordi]

In terms of effects (dry, lean, maintainable gains) Tren sounds like a great compound to base things around if I ever make the jump to the dark side. In terms of sides (agressive behaviour, restlessness, sleeplessness, anger) it sounds like something a person with my life needs to stay away from (I have a very sweet and sensitive wife, and I interact with both very nice old people and little kids in my line of work). Are the extreme sides I've read about perhaps down to the incredible dosages that people on this thread seem to be taking? I've always found it relatively easy to gain muscle and I've had great results from small dosages of mild OTC phs. Dialing in my diet for the first time ever and recently adding TRT doses of test cyp (100 mg/week) has allowed me to regain most of the strength and muscle I had lost to age and estrogen and declining levels. I don't think I'd be interested in taking any more "real" gear than I needed to make real changes in my physique... what's the smallest amount of Tren that would get real results? Would that small dose still affect be likely to affect my sleep and mood really strongly?

[bottleneckblooz]

In terms of effects (dry, lean, maintainable gains) Tren sounds like a great compound to base things around if I ever make the jump to the dark side. In terms of sides (agressive behaviour, restlessness, sleeplessness, anger) it sounds like something a person with my life needs to stay away from (I have a very sweet and sensitive wife, and I interact with both very nice old people and little kids in my line of work). Are the extreme sides I've read about perhaps down to the incredible dosages that people on this thread seem to be taking? I've always found it relatively easy to gain muscle and I've had great results from small dosages of mild OTC phs. Dialing in my diet for the first time ever and recently adding TRT doses of test cyp (100 mg/week) has allowed me to regain most of the strength and muscle I had lost to age and estrogen and declining levels. I don't think I'd be interested in taking any more "real" gear than I needed to make real changes in my physique... what's the smallest amount of Tren that would get real results? Would that small dose still affect be likely to affect my sleep and mood really strongly?

I had the same concerns as you about the sides of tren. So i decided to try Tren E at 200mg/week. At that dose, I noticed some very minor insomnia at the begining (but I usually have bouts of this anyway) but it subsided and now I sleep fine. I have noticed a slight increase in aggression (mostly just getting a tad more upset over things that normally wouldn't bother me) but I have been able to keep it in check. At low doses you should be fine.

[gordi]

Thank you, blooz. Interesting food for thought.