cycle update

[Saint]

hi guys, so today i did an injection, and so far its been 3 weeks, well 3rd week starts as of monday, and my problem is, i feel/see nothing yet, i'm running 400mg of test and 360mg of eq/week, if anything, i feel an average pump and i feel a bit more hungry than often, was wondering how long does it take to see real results, i mean i would've expected this to be working by now since its my first ever cycle, i'm starting to get worried about the gear being fake, oh and btw, my test color is like a very very light yellow, same as my eq, just thought i'd throw that in there to see if colors say anything about it being a real steroid, or just cooking oil.

[bmorlock]

patience bro test is just starting to kick in about now and eq takes a bit longer , i would assume the test is enanthate or cyp ? not prop give it a week or 2 bro

[bigdaddydrew123]

for me it takes even longer, i visually notice fullness arround 3 weeks but strength wise im at 8 or more b4 i get that surge, but were all different but yes be patient its early

[Saint]

patience bro test is just starting to kick in about now and eq takes a bit longer , i would assume the test is enanthate or cyp ? not prop give it a week or 2 bro

thnx man, and it is enanthate, just hope that you're right.......

[Namelessone]

Test-E normally kicks in good for me at weeks 5-6
Just keep training hard and eating even harder and give it more time.

[thelittleguy]

exactly...the test is just now kicking in...and the eq won't be for another few weeks. how long you running the eq for?

[Saint]

exactly...the test is just now kicking in...and the eq won't be for another few weeks. how long you running the eq for?

well i got 2 vials at 20 ml a piece, so i guess till i run out, the way i'm taking it, it should last me 10-12 weeks, btw, near the end, do i come off both compounds at once, or do i stop eq, and then the test??.... or should i taper off, i really dont wanna save any left overs, so i plan on just stoping both together at the doses i posted up...

[kawikaratekid]

next time think about throwing in an oral at the beginning for a little kick start. some dbol at the beginning does wonders!

[bmorlock]

i would stop the eq a week or two before the test and then start pct 2 weeks after ur last test shot

[leeroy]

Test should be starting about now and the eq may take a lot longer to feel. But eq for a long cycle is awesome. Gets better as time goes on.

[Saint]

good feedback guys, thanx to all..,. but the reason i didnt want to throw d'bol in there is because 1. i dont want anything harmful to the liver, and 2. i don't want that bloated look.

[IronRobi]

good feedback guys, thanx to all..,. but the reason i didnt want to throw d'bol in there is because 1. i dont want anything harmful to the liver, and 2. i don't want that bloated look.

and 3. it's your first cycle, you don't want to mix too many ;)

Good call on the no dbol bro!

[Saint]

another thought that's been crossing my mind is, do you guys think this cycle will help me also lean out, i mean i'm not looking to get down to 6% bf, cause its not the purpose of the cycle, but i have wut you call a "spare tire" at the bottom of my stomach where your lower abs are, and i really want that gone, but don't know how to get rid of it, i'm currently doing 60-90 mins cardio a week, diet is fairly clean, tryin to keep as much of the gains that i will be making, so i dont wanan push it too much on the cardio. Also, do you guys think that this cycle will bloat me, thnx.

[Houstonbc]

no i dont tthink you'll bloat much if at all if your diet is fairly clean and at the doses you're running. you might burn a bit of fat depends what youre trying to do man...cut or build mass, i think you can do a bit of both but imo its best to do one or the other at a time

[grifter]

clean diet, low sodium, lots of water, and cardio first thing in the morning after waking up if possible. Maybe look into some clen. It would help with muscle sparing and kick up your body core temp a few degrees to burn the brown fat.

[Saint]

clean diet, low sodium, lots of water, and cardio first thing in the morning after waking up if possible. Maybe look into some clen. It would help with muscle sparing and kick up your body core temp a few degrees to burn the brown fat.

are u saying clen after my cycle, or during>????, clen after my cycle while taking my PCT, or after PCT

[bigpapapump2016]

Hey saint, i had the same problem as you with my test E about 7 months ago, you could prolly search my threads haha. But yeah I was worried about gains at week 3 and it kicked in for me around week 5, just hang in there bro

[Saint]

Hey saint, i had the same problem as you with my test E about 7 months ago, you could prolly search my threads haha. But yeah I was worried about gains at week 3 and it kicked in for me around week 5, just hang in there bro

thanx, when u came off, how much size did u lose, also, did that help you lean out a lil bit??

[Saint]

hey guys, did my second injection today for week 5, first injection for week 6 is this wednesday, i'm sad to report, that i have seen NO results, wtf is wrong, did i get ripped, i'm using SA gear btw. should aslo add in, i never took anything to kickstart this cycle, keep in mind this is my first ever cycle. So much for the first cycle being your best.

[Houstonbc]

how is your diet

[Saint]

how is your diet

i cant' be happier about my diet, my diet is definately there, my protein intake is about 300g or so. i weigh about 227ish, i try to get in about 1g of protein per body weight lbs. My carbs is also similar, maybe a lil bit higher, i'd say about 450g of carbs. My veggies are there, everything is there. I just have a feeling that i might be the gear, because wouldnt you think that you'd feel atleast different at teh gym from teh gear alone. well i dont

[Houstonbc]

hmm give it a bit more time man

[bigdaddydrew123]

as i said b4 it usually takes me about 8 weeks on test b4 i get that strenght boost, which i why i do longer cycles.it will happen hang in there

[bmorlock]

ya bro give it a bit more time

[Saint]

hey guys, i was thinkin of adding tbol to my cycle, this is my 6th week in, wut do you guys think, should i go for it, or don't bother?., also, is it bad on the hair line and liver??.. if i decide to run it, i will also use milk thistle with it, let me know what you guys think, thanx.

[canadianmuscle0803]

at this point dont add anything at all.. you know me from OLM..i hear that your curring clen with this as well???

sounds like you dont really have your mind made up on what you want to do? either bulk or lean out.. the product you have (SA) is good to go.. too many variables here to really give you a clear cut answer though.. just stick it out.

[MUSCULARMAYOR]

Eat more.

[R.F.S.]

Bro what exactly are your goals with this cycle? There is no need for any orals at this point. I would stick with the test and eq for now and see how things go from there. Remember you won't be keeping all your gains after the cycle so train harder than before and eat accordingly to what your goals are.