Fouad Abiad Guest Posing at the 2010 Southern States Championships

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Looking large as usual.

[natenator]

nice pics!

[gettinbigger]

can't wait to see him at the BCs on the 24th.

kinda funny how fouad has changed bodybuilding FOREVER...you know how many competitors have mohawks going on...bet half of em at the BCs.... ;-)

[tiramisu]

Bodybuilding is a cruel sport. When I saw the locker room pics I went "wow". When I see the guest posing pics, my reaction is that he looks thick in the middle and a little bit soft.

Meanwhile, I'll probably never be as lean as he is guest posing and shoulder/chest/waist ratios are inhuman.

I really think he's got a shot at top 10 in the Olympia in the next 5 years if he can keep his gut under control.

[gustavo77]

Great pics for sure. Man, his back, double bicep pose is excellent.

[natenator]

Bodybuilding is a cruel sport. When I saw the locker room pics I went "wow". When I see the guest posing pics, my reaction is that he looks thick in the middle and a little bit soft.

Meanwhile, I'll probably never be as lean as he is guest posing and shoulder/chest/waist ratios are inhuman.

I really think he's got a shot at top 10 in the Olympia in the next 5 years if he can keep his gut under control.

he's likely not anywhere close to being dark enough for that stage. Plus the changeroom pic was taken in the morning before cardio and the guest posing pics at night prob around 8 or 9pm. He probably didn't have as much water in him but no doubt he didn't sacrifice on his meals for a guest posing.

[listener]

can't wait to see him at the BCs on the 24th.



He'll be doing a store promo at Popeyes on West Broadway on Sunday 25th, noon to 4 pm.

[Prisoner#22]

Unfortuneately my critique is he looked better lighter. As he has bulked up his waste has thickend and he has lost his aethetics of his physique.

IMO I don't think he has potential for top 5. I loved his physique when he was lighter, but i didn't realize how blocky he is in the waste. His Lats hang, but they are not aesthetically pleasing from the back. He has short arms and legs with a long torso, which initially are helpfull in getting the procard, but not so much in developing the detail needed to have well detailed bicepts. I.e. look at the best arms ever.. they are all on the longer side... with well developed rounded bicepts. His bicepts shape and length are a huge liability.

I feel He lacks the structure to be able to hold the size he needs, while still maintaining a decent x-frame. to able to hang with the Kai Greens, Phil Heaths, Victor..et al..

[C.Cruise]

Unfortuneately my critique is he looked better
I feel He lacks the structure to be able to hold the size he needs, while still maintaining a decent x-frame. to able to hang with the Kai Greens, Phil Heaths, Victor..et al..


lol, not many can "hang" with Kai Greene, Phil Heath, Victor.... et all. really there is quite a separation between the top 6 in the world and a 10th to 15th athlete.

Fouad is still considered young in bodybuilding. I wouldnt count him out already.

[natenator]

Unfortuneately my critique is he looked better lighter. As he has bulked up his waste has thickend and he has lost his aethetics of his physique.

IMO I don't think he has potential for top 5. I loved his physique when he was lighter, but i didn't realize how blocky he is in the waste. His Lats hang, but they are not aesthetically pleasing from the back. He has short arms and legs with a long torso, which initially are helpfull in getting the procard, but not so much in developing the detail needed to have well detailed bicepts. I.e. look at the best arms ever.. they are all on the longer side... with well developed rounded bicepts. His bicepts shape and length are a huge liability.

I feel He lacks the structure to be able to hold the size he needs, while still maintaining a decent x-frame. to able to hang with the Kai Greens, Phil Heaths, Victor..et al..
You are pretty critical for a wannabe ifbb pro whose not even won his card let alone understood what is actually needed to compete at that level and on those stages.

[champion99]

unfortuneately my critique is he looked better lighter. As he has bulked up his waste has thickend and he has lost his aethetics of his physique.

Imo i don't think he has potential for top 5. I loved his physique when he was lighter, but i didn't realize how blocky he is in the waste. His lats hang, but they are not aesthetically pleasing from the back. He has short arms and legs with a long torso, which initially are helpfull in getting the procard, but not so much in developing the detail needed to have well detailed bicepts. I.e. Look at the best arms ever.. They are all on the longer side... With well developed rounded bicepts. His bicepts shape and length are a huge liability.

I feel he lacks the structure to be able to hold the size he needs, while still maintaining a decent x-frame. To able to hang with the kai greens, phil heaths, victor..et al..


all i am hearing hear is jealousy :)

[Andre Gregoire]

You are pretty critical for a wannabe ifbb pro whose not even won his card let alone understood what is actually needed to compete at that level and on those stages.

:popc

[gettinbigger]

P22's critiques are brutally honest. The guy has a very good eye for what works well on a physique and what doesn't. He's given similar critiques to guys on this board and I think his honesty is appreciated.

Just because he's aiming for the top doesn't mean he can't comment on the guys who are already there. I'm a big fan of Fouad. I think he looks amazing at 280. But if this post was about Mike Van Wyk I'd be the first to point out the need for some more legs to go with the big back.

[C.Cruise]

You are pretty critical for a wannabe ifbb pro whose not even won his card let alone understood what is actually needed to compete at that level and on those stages.

agreed,
also consider Fouad is in the middle of his off season and just dieted briefly to get in better shape to guest pose. He is no where near his contest condition and hasnt said when he will compete next. For you to "critique" him from guest posing pics is absurd.... Do you really believe you can judge what size his waste will be from guest posing pics? LOL.

Good luck at Nationals.

[tiramisu]

I think parts of the critique are valid. He does have high lats and his stomach may limit him if it continues to grow out of control. I don't think the torso/limb ratio will have as much impact and despite flex wheeler/shawn ray/lee priest etc having great biceps peaks when we look at many of the other competitors, symmetry and muscularity generally outweigh aesthetics, unless you suffer from Palumbo or Kovac's genetics.

Doe he have top 5 potential? umm, maybe/maybe not. top 10? probably. will he get olympia invites in his career? definitely. That put's him in with the best in the world and while there's a big difference between first and tenth. Being tenth at the olympia would make my day.

[natenator]

I never said prisioners critiques weren't valid. I simply said he was being overly critical of fouad's 'blocky waist' when in it seems that what happens to nearly every guy who tries to get to the top of the game in this sport.

Few are willing to endure years of a boring physique like Dexter simple because their body structure looks better at a lower weight. If the IFBB rewarded physiques with more aesthetic appeal I'm sure fouad and others would try to maintain that but the ifbb rewards size. Kai green has a horrible physique but he's gotten rewarded. Cutler has built a horrible physique over the years but he's rewarded for it. Branch in general is just aim ugly all around yet he's being rewarded as of late.

If you want to try and make it to the top it seems you need to push past what is good for your body aesthetically speaking.

[C.Cruise]

[QUOTE=tiramisu;390111]I think parts of the critique are valid. He does have high lats and his stomach may limit him if it continues to grow out of control.

High Lats, are you for real? His back is one of his strong points.... not high at all, get your eyes checked.

[tiramisu]

[QUOTE=tiramisu;390111]I think parts of the critique are valid. He does have high lats and his stomach may limit him if it continues to grow out of control.

High Lats, are you for real? His back is one of his strong points.... not high at all, get your eyes checked.

Definitely high for a top 5, Olympian. The top fivers have lats that flare from down around their assholes. His only come out at mid-back when you look at his front double bicep. Genetics are a bitch and what it takes to be numbers 1 is some pretty freaky shit. He's got plenty of meat on his lats but the attachments are high.

[Adonis13]

Thats Fouad and Branch (2nd) and Heath (5th) at last years olympia i think he can hang and then some with his back, it also looks like lower insertions by the erectors to me.

[tiramisu]

From the back you are right but turn it around and look at the front double bicep. Fouad's lats flare at the mid back at pec level while Heath's are visibly flaring by below his belly button. Branch on the other hand almost has a normal white guy back (ignoring the incredible mass of muscle). Amazing legs but his back lat and back double bi suffer. I always cheer for Branch but he is using every grain of potential he has. With a lot of the other pro's you could argue that they aren't achieving their potential. Branch squeezes every bit of his potential. If guys like Heath could work as hard as Branch without breaking like twigs they'd be unstoppable.

... and just to repeat I think he'll be in the top 10 in the olympia in the next few years. I don't think front double biceps is a pose he can win in the top 5 and I believe this is because his lats look awkward from the front when compared to the current top 5 pros. I also think that any improvements he can make in mass have to be carefully weighed against having his gut get out of control on him and making him appear extremely blocky. Putting on size really fast with a whole bunch of GH/Insulin is probably not a great idea IMHO.

[C.Cruise]

so his back is a weak point from the front but strong from the back, LOL. Ask Fouad or Hany what his strong point is and they will tell you its his back.

[tiramisu]

so his back is a weak point from the front but strong from the back, LOL. Ask Fouad or Hany what his strong point is and they will tell you its his back.


Perfect now you understand what I'm saying :)

[Prisoner#22]

Sorry.

[C.Cruise]

If you do get your Pro Card, great.... but you will not be very popular with the other Pros. So what is your time frame to get your Pro card? are you going to get it this year?

[steve_d]

If you do get your Pro Card, great.... but you will not be very popular with the other Pros. So what is your time frame to get your Pro card? are you going to get it this year?

he just might. And if not this year, it won't be long. I agree with every critique p22 has put out so far. Fouad is awesome, and just because he isn't top5 awesome, that doesn't mean p22 (or anyone who agrees with him as to why) is jealous. The only reason there is a suggestion that he might be (jealous) is because it is Fouad, a fellow canadian, that is getting critiqued. If we critiqued someone similar from the states, everyone would agree.

As mentioned, his post is brutally honest. Nothing more.

[tiramisu]

Small waists and aesthetically appealing physiques definitely win NPC shows. Sadly, IMO, they don't win IFBB shows.

If we look at some of our favourite bodybuilders at the 1991 NPC Nationals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6spstkeL-Bk

I personally think they were at their all time best. Once they entered the IFBB, mass outscored aesthetics and they all put on mass that while amazing did not improve their aesthetics, symmetry or sadly their stomachs. Massive protruding guts and blocky physiques ARE winning IFBB shows. I'd like to see that end but Dexter Jackson winning at the Olympia because no one else showed up in shape isn't a sign that the IFBB has suddenly decided to stop hosting a freak show.

[natenator]

he just might. And if not this year, it won't be long. I agree with every critique p22 has put out so far. Fouad is awesome, and just because he isn't top5 awesome, that doesn't mean p22 (or anyone who agrees with him as to why) is jealous. The only reason there is a suggestion that he might be (jealous) is because it is Fouad, a fellow canadian, that is getting critiqued. If we critiqued someone similar from the states, everyone would agree.

As mentioned, his post is brutally honest. Nothing more.
No. It has to do with being an arrogant **** and talking like he's done something without having actually done it yet.

I see no one disagreeing with his assessment of Fouad but his assessment of Fouad wasn't the point. I don't think he's jealous. I just think he's an arrogant **** who has zero humility.

The best of the best in this sport have all been very humble guys. Why talk shit or come across with a huge ego when you know you're the best.

Craig Titus
King Kamalli
Ben White

Just to name a few (that I can remember). Those were guys with a big ****ing mouths that wrote cheques their body couldn't cash.

[natenator]

Small waists and aesthetically appealing physiques definitely win NPC shows. Sadly, IMO, they don't win IFBB shows.

If we look at some of our favourite bodybuilders at the 1991 NPC Nationals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6spstkeL-Bk

I personally think they were at their all time best. Once they entered the IFBB, mass outscored aesthetics and they all put on mass that while amazing did not improve their aesthetics, symmetry or sadly their stomachs. Massive protruding guts and blocky physiques ARE winning IFBB shows. I'd like to see that end but Dexter Jackson winning at the Olympia because no one else showed up in shape isn't a sign that the IFBB has suddenly decided to stop hosting a freak show.
Case in point last year:

Jay and Branch in the 1 and 2 spots.

[Big D]

I'm the only good looking white guy on here who's Grandfather was actually Black. I'm white with black genetics... I have the best of both worlds...its just a matter of time now.

lol wtf ???



Just to deflate your ego a little bit, I was going through the thread with your last year pics and my gf was in the room, the first thing she said was BUTTERFACE.

anyways as for your post, bragging about how good you are, and how your a good looking black white guy, will get you nowhere fast. be humble about it. your gonna want all the friends you can get in this sport.

[tiramisu]

Humble is overrated. You just hate me because I'm beautiful :)

The guy I had hopes for was Frank McGrath but it seems as if he has gone on to have a normal life.

[fit226]

Wow, i just caught the tail end of this thread. P22, we as a cult of our own (bodybuilders, on a side note, i hate it when people refer to me or ask me "are you a bodybuilder??"...Hate it!!) have enough stereotyping to overcome that we don't need to fuel the fire brother. Nothing wrong with being passionate and driven but you can definitely go about it differently bro without offending people. Success is not measured by bicep size, leaness and a silly little piece of paper that says IFBB pro. It's measured by family, friends, money and general stress free living. You start to piss people off and something goes astray in your life whether it be health or another area you'll realize your lack of success very quickly!

[Prisoner#22]

No. It has to do with being an arrogant **** and talking like he's done something without having actually done it yet.

I see no one disagreeing with his assessment of Fouad but his assessment of Fouad wasn't the point. I don't think he's jealous. I just think he's an arrogant **** who has zero humility.

The best of the best in this sport have all been very humble guys. Why talk shit or come across with a huge ego when you know you're the best.

Craig Titus
King Kamalli
Ben White

Just to name a few (that I can remember). Those were guys with a big ****ing mouths that wrote cheques their body couldn't cash.

Sorry bro.. If you knew me in person I am not like that. Yes that is my critique of Fouad...I'll be honest, I liked him very much and idolized his accomplishments up untill now, but I believe that his physique now is not as aesthetically pleasing as it was when he was smaller.... but My reply I wrote last night... I was angry and didn't 'temper' my comments.. I felt disrespected... and reacted the wrong way. Its easy to do that when you are hiding behind a computer screen, and for that I am sorry... call me what you like because i definitely deserve it.

I am definitely NOT perfect... I will be the first to admit that. and when you remove carbohydrates... my flaws are very much magnified.

But I am a work in progress... not just body wise but personallity too.

I have had a tough time of it the last few days though. I came down with infections bilaterally in my right shoulder and bicept, left quad, and left shoulder. I have been on antibiotic therapy, and have been going mental for the last couple of days.. as I am only a few weeks out from competing in a show that I have trained for my entire life.

Everything was going perfect until Saturday.

enough said, fact of the matter is I am as human as you can get, Yah I have a lot of confidence in my abilities, but I believe you have to show up on stage with that mentality if you expect to have a shot to win.

[ironwill]

Damn bro, P22, that was as honest and humble as one can get.....Good on ya.....
I had thought i sensed humbleness in previous posts, then i saw what you wrote......Not that my opinion matters whatsoever, It was dissappointing, but I think that was a great post above...hope you heal fast!!!!

[69challenger]

Sorry bro.. If you knew me in person I am not like that. Yes that is my critique of Fouad...I'll be honest, I liked him very much and idolized his accomplishments up untill now, but I believe that his physique now is not as aesthetically pleasing as it was when he was smaller.... but My reply I wrote last night... I was angry and didn't 'temper' my comments.. I felt disrespected... and reacted the wrong way. Its easy to do that when you are hiding behind a computer screen, and for that I am sorry... call me what you like because i definitely deserve it.

I am definitely NOT perfect... I will be the first to admit that. and when you remove carbohydrates... my flaws are very much magnified.

But I am a work in progress... not just body wise but personallity too.

I have had a tough time of it the last few days though. I came down with infections bilaterally in my right shoulder and bicept, left quad, and left shoulder. I have been on antibiotic therapy, and have been going mental for the last couple of days.. as I am only a few weeks out from competing in a show that I have trained for my entire life.

Everything was going perfect until Saturday.

enough said, fact of the matter is I am as human as you can get, Yah I have a lot of confidence in my abilities, but I believe you have to show up on stage with that mentality if you expect to have a shot to win.


Oh boy, just when I thought I had you pegged....nice post p22.

Sorry to hear you are not doing so well....hope you feel better soon. Good luck these next few weeks.

[bigtavi8]

p22 most humble and straight up post i seen in a while. Stay around here man your physique is excellent and you say what needs to be said. Ill admit it came off a little arrogant and shit disturbing but hey man i think a lot of us can relate to being carb depleted and feeling a little mental before a huge show. I truthfully hope you do get your pro card this year at nationals, Good luck brotha.

[O-Train]

You guys are all crazy...and I mean that in the nicest way possible.

[Prisoner#22]

p22 most humble and straight up post i seen in a while. Stay around here man your physique is excellent and you say what needs to be said. Ill admit it came off a little arrogant and shit disturbing but hey man i think a lot of us can relate to being carb depleted and feeling a little mental before a huge show. I truthfully hope you do get your pro card this year at nationals, Good luck brotha.

Thanks, They took my iv lock out today... and started me on Keflex for tomorrow but my leg is so sore I can barely walk never mind do cardio... I injected some gear there on Sunday after the fact of the cellulitis and the gear had so much alcohol in it I had aspirate it yesterday with a 18g syringe to releave the pressure. I saw the infectious disease doctor today and told her that... She was pretty cool.

The first Doc I saw in the ER.. the same ER I used to work at.. but a doc that was new there and didn't know me... made me wait all night to get my antibiotics, and then had the nurses give me two IM shots in the ass... He said come back tommorrow morning. He had outlined the area in pen of redness and tracking that had spread all the way from my shoulder down to the bottom of my bicept... He said if it broke the outline to come back sooner.

Well sure enough it did... I realized by 5 o'clock that day it was much more swollen .. I couldn't even see the difference between the peak of my bicept and my delt, and eating soup with a spoon was starting to make my bicept feel week just from supinating a little as I put the spoon in my mouth.

Its at that point I got really scared as I'm thinking oh shit what if they have to get a faciotomy??? I'm ****ed!

So back I went to Emerg... I endend up waiting 4 hours to be seen again and was seen by a doc I had worked with for 3 years and had a good relationship with... She put me on IV clindamycin as wel as Iv ceftrioxin (the one the other doc had made me get bilaterally in the ass.. mixed with lidocaine to numb the pain lol)

The Doc told me that the reason I had been given the first dose IM was because that doctor though I was going to go home with the IV loc in and abuse it.. injecting steroids into it !!!!!

WTF???

The funny thing was it was the biggest running joke that day, as everybody know I was a rescusitation/ triage nurse when I left, and could put Iv's in 90 year old ladies with spindly little spider veins... and there's me with these big rope veins that every nurse in there wanted to try starting a urinary catheter size line into just for fun when I worked there....

talk about humiliation and bullshit.

So I went to community access Iv for 4 treatments and finally had the iv taken out today, and am starting a course of keflex for a week.

The swelling in the arms have gone down substancially. there is still some redness, but it is going away, and I think I might be able to train my back tonight but not sure when I'll be able to do cardio yet as I feel like I got shot in the leg.

talk about a fricking nightmare!!! and so close to the nationals :) 4 days ago I had cuts in me so deep you could put fingers in the grooves and now they are all smoothed over :(

I can only just wait, and keep my fingers crossed that I heal fast and can get back on that cardio machine asap.

So thats my story, nice eh!

[fit226]

bro, get better. We've all had bad days physically and mentally just stay focused. Getting all stressed isn't going to help your physique at this point. Be safe.

[Delt King]

Much respect for being honest P22 and for admitting what you wrote was not cool.
Now get better dude, you've got a lineup of bodybuilders wanting that ProCard as much as you.
Hope to say hi in Saskatoon in 23 days.

[Prisoner#22]

Much respect for being honest P22 and for admitting what you wrote was not cool.
Now get better dude, you've got a lineup of bodybuilders wanting that ProCard as much as you.
Hope to say hi in Saskatoon in 23 days.

For sure! I want to meet and make as many friends as possible. Did you find out whether you can do classic? I think with your freaky genetics you would be hard to beat in that class for sure.

as for 23 days? urhhhg!!! I can't even lift my leg 3 inches off the ground.. dam hope this heals fast... I'm gonna try doing elyptical right now and see if I can take the pain lol.

[natenator]

Sorry bro.. If you knew me in person I am not like that. Yes that is my critique of Fouad...I'll be honest, I liked him very much and idolized his accomplishments up untill now, but I believe that his physique now is not as aesthetically pleasing as it was when he was smaller.... but My reply I wrote last night... I was angry and didn't 'temper' my comments.. I felt disrespected... and reacted the wrong way. Its easy to do that when you are hiding behind a computer screen, and for that I am sorry... call me what you like because i definitely deserve it.

I am definitely NOT perfect... I will be the first to admit that. and when you remove carbohydrates... my flaws are very much magnified.

But I am a work in progress... not just body wise but personallity too.

I have had a tough time of it the last few days though. I came down with infections bilaterally in my right shoulder and bicept, left quad, and left shoulder. I have been on antibiotic therapy, and have been going mental for the last couple of days.. as I am only a few weeks out from competing in a show that I have trained for my entire life.

Everything was going perfect until Saturday.

enough said, fact of the matter is I am as human as you can get, Yah I have a lot of confidence in my abilities, but I believe you have to show up on stage with that mentality if you expect to have a shot to win.
wow that has to suck and sorry to hear that dude!

no need to make apologies to me though. I'm just some internet dude :D

hope you get better quickly and are able to compete!!!

[Andre Gregoire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJr5hpdJDzQ

Looking leaner at the BC's...