Boxing/MMA cycle for a big dude

[Durk]

I have a friend who is a 6ft 280 pound natural endo/meso. He wants to do a cycle to help him hold on to some muscle as he tries to drop some weight. He gasses kinda easy so keeping his cardio good would be his top priority.

I myself am doing a cycle of

200mgs test E
250mgs Drostanolone
30mgs of T-bol for weeks 4-12
20mgs of winstrol weeks 12-20

this is to improve my strength and speed while keeping my weight down. Would something like this be good for a dude with 100 pounds on me?

[dku]

Has he cycled before? Does he want to gain muscle or lose fat?

[L3]

100mg prop EOD
100mg EQ EOD

[Durk]

He has done a handful of oral only cycles, but now he wants to graduate to injections. He just wants to bring down his weight while holding on to the muscle he has. It think he would prefere to be in the 230ish range

[natenator]

Has he cycled before? Does he want to gain muscle or lose fat?
reading challenged are we? lol



He wants to do a cycle to help him hold on to some muscle as he tries to drop some weight.

[natenator]

500mg test (pick the ester - doesn't matter just shoot EOD)
350 EQ

[Durk]

I divide my cycle up into 2x a week because I am a pussy and hate the sound of scar tissue crunching. would there be much a of a difference if I did drostan E and test E eod rather than 2x a week? If so could I do half a CC sub Q eod because again I am a pussy when it comes to long and frequent inject cycles lol

I am only doing 200mgs of test a week

[natenator]

I divide my cycle up into 2x a week because I am a pussy and hate the sound of scar tissue crunching. would there be much a of a difference if I did drostan E and test E eod rather than 2x a week? If so could I do half a CC sub Q eod because again I am a pussy when it comes to long and frequent inject cycles lol

I am only doing 200mgs of test a week
I personally believe all esters should be shot ED but at the very minimum EOD. As for a difference that you can tell? Individual. My first cycle ever was 32 weeks spanning a few different compounds over that time period and I did ED shots. Next cycle I hated ED shots so I went with EOD. I noticed a difference in sides.

BBB has some good commentary around here about injection frequency.

[Durk]

well if I am only doing .5 a CC at a would a 5/8s in the shoulders and arms eod be too small of a needle? I hate doing glutes and thighs consistently now. After a couple of High frequency cycles It feels like I am driving a stake into the ground lol

[natenator]

assuming you are lean enough.

lats are a nice sweet spot too.

and I hear ya about driving a stake into the ground. Gonnna have to run myself through a big ass meat tenderizer soon

[Durk]

never done lats yet they kinda scare me

[natenator]

easy peasy although I gotta lean against the bathroom wall for leverage use the mirror to see what I'm doing.

[#8]

use a roller on your ass every day and your glutes will soften right up to the point that you could jab them twice a day if you needed to. if you can tolerate an abs plastic roller on your glutes it will get rid of so much scar / dead tissue in your ass it will feel like youve never jabbed there before. definitely changed my life after i started using it.

[Durk]

I should seriously look into one. The the crunching/tearing of scar tissue is more obnoxious to me than a fork scraping a chalk board.

[tex]

I'm not an mma guy but I box and my current cycle is 50mg test suspension/40mg tren a ed.....Im 2 weeks in....cardio has not dropped off at all....im leaning out and I hit like a ****ing train.....

[Durk]

I would never box on tren. The last time I did tren walking was an intense cardio workout for me.

[tex]

hasn't messed with me at all...in fact I keep increasing my round times...I box amateur so I generally go 2 minute rounds but I train for 3 minute rounds and only use a 30 second rest in between....i notice the tren when lifting heavy tho.....i get winded easier...

[L3]

if you can tolerate an abs plastic roller on your glutes it will get rid of so much scar / dead tissue in your ass it will feel like youve never jabbed there before.

ty for the tip ill try to get me one of those

i hurts :(