Yet Another U of Waterloo Steroid Article

[tiramisu]

If I'm reading this right there are still 5 unnamed drug failures left in this debacle...

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More info on the Canadian Football steroid scandal. (http://sorebuttcheeks.blogspot.com/2010/07/more-info-on-canadian-football-steroid.html)
The University of Waterloo football program lies in ruins, and the names of the individuals alleged to be responsible for its destruction continue to surface.

Named Friday were two more of the nine who either failed doping control tests administered to 61 of the 62 athletes on the team or admitted use of performance-enhancing drugs. (One player refused to participate and was thereby handed an anti-doping rule violation.) The two identified Friday in a conference call with the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport were third-year linebacker Matt Peto of Strathroy and first-year linebacker Eric Polini of Thunder Bay. Peto admitted to steroid use two days before testing and received a one-year sanction.

Polini admitted his use on March 31 when CCES conducted tests on
the team. He received a two-year sanction. They joined Joe Surgenor and Jordan Meredith, who were identified previously and hit with two-year sanctions.

So far, three players and one former player are facing criminal charges in conjunction with what is being called the most significant steroids scandal in the history of Canadian university sport.

Receiver Nathan Zettler was arrested on charges of drug trafficking, which led to the entire Waterloo team being tested, Since then teammates Matthew Valeriote and Brandon Krukowski and former Warrior Eric Legare also have been charged.

The five oustanding positive tests have yet to sign their waiver and accept the anti-doping rule violation and the proposed sanctions, according to Paul Melia, president and CEO of CCES.

CCES has conducted more than 50 out-of-season, unannounced tests of players from university football programs across the country since the Waterloo scandal was unearthed.

The hope is to test at least one athlete from every football program in Canada by the time the 2010 season begins.

"(We want) to try to access how broad and how deep this use of prohibited substances in the CIS in the sport of football might be," Melia said. "Again trying to answer the question, 'Is it an isolated incident restricted to the Waterloo football program or is it more widespread?'"

In addition to the 61 urine tests carried out on March 31, CCES also conducted 20 blood tests, it was revealed Friday. Blood testing determines the presence of certain substances not detectable in urine like blood transfusions, synthetic EPO and human growth hormone.

One of those blood samples was a failed test or, as the scientists call it, an adverse analytical finding. The failed blood test was turned in by one of those players responsible for the nine positive urine tests so the cheat count remains at nine.

[LonelyBedouin]

Im actually surprised there are not more from other Universities. If I recall I believe there was one that went to my University on the wrestling team that was never caught.

[tiramisu]

I think you need to be just a little bit stupid to get caught. Short out of season cycles with things like test prop/GH/Insulin. Don't be findable for 8-12 weeks in the 4 months summer offseason. They only do a very small number of out of season tests. You are allowed to "not be findable" a small number of times and get away with a warning.

Some of these kids are doing stuff like deca where they are going to test positive as long as 18 months post cycle. Dumb like dirt.

[Body By Balco]

Interestingly, I believe the CFL has announced off season testing in response to the Waterloo debacle.

I place 50% of the blame on the testing agencies for lack of a thorough testing program, a program SO lax that it only invites, no begs of the temptation to use. Testing is CHEAP, ELISA testing that is. Once positives are found through ELISA testing, GC/MS testing is then done to provide qualitative analysis. Hell samples can be pooled from the whole team and tested with ONE ELISA (like a dip stick test). If negative, smile move on, if a positive result occurs, ELISA each individual sample and GC/MS the positive individuals.

I come from a background in an industry where hundreds of tests are conducted weekly for a MUCH broader array of drug categories than the CIS will EVER test for. Any attempt at some excuse for a piss poor (no pun intended) urine sampling program does not wash at all. Throw in the odd random blood test and most athletes who might be tempted to cheat will walk a straight line and everyone is happy.

So either the testing officials should get the **** with the program being thorough and consistent and have the message 'don't use' coincide tightly with the action of testing, or they should freaking abandon the whole testing program.

[Body By Balco]

The point is to keep stupid steroid stories out of the news for the simple reason that they not need to be there. If the lazy **** officials do their job and test consistently, and the bumble **** athletes who participate in sports that is tested, stay clean (because the officials are doing their job), the world can be happier.....and we can use our beloved steroids with fear of the gov't deciding that the police do not currently have enough power to deal with this schedule 4 drug and ramp it up to a schedule 1 drug much like the US did and send users away for multiple years for simple procession.

All it takes is a simple sprinkling of parliamentary pixie dust and a tap of the legislative magic wand and our world is a very different place.

[Body By Balco]

Also let me add that the current President of Waterloo was just appointed to be the next Governor General. Perhaps a discussion of two in the PMO (the Conservatives are all about tough crime legislation) may concern protecting Canada's youth from the evils of steroid use.

[nisser]

Hell samples can be pooled from the whole team and tested with ONE ELISA (like a dip stick test). If negative, smile move on, if a positive result occurs, ELISA each individual sample and GC/MS the positive individuals.


How true is that? What's the positive threshold over the baseline? If you're pooling 10 samples, a positive would have to be 20x+ over a negative baseline to be reliable.

[Victor85]

Stupid a$$holes, we should be chasing real criminals, not some person interested in their discipline and possible vocation. That is my 2 cents.

[Body By Balco]

How true is that? What's the positive threshold over the baseline? If you're pooling 10 samples, a positive would have to be 20x+ over a negative baseline to be reliable.

In this case you are correct, performance enhancing drugs with an endogenous counterpart like testosterone would have to be tested on a threshold basis. This would cost more and as such could be done a more random basis. Selecting a random set of individual samples for threshold hold testing from the teams samples.

The point in continual, random and consistent testing, is that athlete never knows who will be tested for what, so they opt to stay clean. Boldenone, and nearly every other steroid known has no endogenous counterpart so there is no threshold and a dip stick pooled sample test will work fine for weeding out drug users as described in previous posts.

The point is that testing is MUCH cheaper and can be done much more consistently than it is now....MUCH MORE. Theses athletes at Waterloo specifically, and possibly other institutions KNEW that they would be testing SO infrequently, if at all during the season, that 14% of the team felt safe in using what ever they pleased. One ****ing idiot was even selling gear...like he wasn't tempted to use.

It is we that enjoy the benefits of steroid use in the gym, the regular 9-5, tax paying, Joe Citizen that ultimately gets ****ed because of lack luster officials collecting fat cheques spreading one message yet doing as close to absolutely **** all as they can to support that message. The fish rots from the head. Athletes as individuals will cheat the system on a random basis, but when 14% of a ****ing team is caught breaking the rules, the problem stems from HIGH up the totem pole.

[Body By Balco]

CCES has conducted more than 50 out-of-season, unannounced tests of players from university football programs across the country since the Waterloo scandal was unearthed.

The hope is to test at least one athlete from every football program in Canada by the time the 2010 season begins.





This is a JOKE. They 'HOPE' is to test 'ONE' athlete form every team before the 2010 season begins. They don't want to stop steroid use. This is like putting on your left hand turn signal and making a right hand turn. The more this bullshit happens, the more the odds are in the favour of the athlete not being tested, in a drug tested sport, the more we are going to hear about these shit stories in the media.


I do realise there are a huge number of Collegiate and Varsity athletes in Canada. However they do not need to thoroughly test every sample, ELISA testing, pooled team samples, and random blood tests are enough knock down the level of drug use significantly and keep this shit out of the media. Each athletes has urine taken twice per year. They do not know what will be tested for, a pooled sample for the big offenders (steroids, amphetamines ect...) or individual thresholds for EPO/Hemastcrit, Test etc. Once the athletes piss is in the hands of the tester, his/her fate is sealed. That alone is fear enough to keep the athletes more in line with the rules of sport they agreed to follow when they signed up for the damn sport.

'Yes', those athletes who use drugs in a drug tested sport CHEAT. I do not cheat, (edit: but I do use steroids) yet I am lumped into the same dirt category as those that do cheat, and I am tired of it.