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10-04-2008, 04:15 AM
Profile from MuscleNexus.com (Trenbolone Acetate) Dumb profile IMO.


1. First scentence under: Risks/Side Effects...

"Trenbolone does not exhibit any estrogenic activity and therefore estrogenic side effects are not a concern with this compound."


2. Two paragraphs down...

"Now due to the lack of estrogenic side effects associated with trenbolone it would seem that users would have little to worry about in terms of side effects like gynecomastia, water retention, etc. However trenbolone is a progestin, meaning that it has the ability to bind to receptors of the female sex hormone progesterone (2). Also, like other 19-nor compounds trenbolone increases prolactin levels. Side effects related to these reactions can include breast growth and lactation."

First it says there are no estrogenic side effects and then it says there is! LOL! WTF? So I am guessing that tren does have estrogenic side effects. I am confused.

gustavo77
10-04-2008, 06:24 AM
It is refering to two different forms of "gyno". One IS actually gynocomastia (sp) caused by high estrodiol (estrogen) levels in the male body and the other is simply referred to as "gyno", but is not scientifically and is caused by an increase in prolactin, which can cause symptoms such as extremely sore nips/hard nips and lactation ... Test can cause an increase in estrodiol as can d-bol and deca. Tren does not increase estrogen but it does increase prolactin in some sensitive individuals and cause "prolactin gyno".

To control estrogen you can use an Aromatase Inhibitor such as Letrozole, Arimidex or Aromasin. Nolva may also be used but it not the best choice IMO. To control prolactin you would need to use Cabaser/Cabergoline/Dostinex or Bromo.

Keep in mind that some individuals are more sensitive than others, hence many can use test and tren and never experience either of these side effects.

Grunt76
10-04-2008, 12:05 PM
That writeup makes tren sound like the nicest form of juice out there, with all its references to "no problem" this and that...

shithead
10-04-2008, 12:16 PM
Progesterone related sides are far worse than estrogen as progesterone zaps sex drive in most subjects. As well as mammary gland lactation and areola growth.

Some dont get progesterone related side effects from tren though.

IronRobi
10-04-2008, 04:59 PM
I always stack up on vit b6 when running tren. I have actually seen a guy squeeze his boob and start to milk. It was disturbing hahaha

Mr Ontario
10-04-2008, 05:36 PM
What do you think the Vitamin B-6 does for you when on Tren? What other supplement do you take with it?


I always stack up on vit b6 when running tren. I have actually seen a guy squeeze his boob and start to milk. It was disturbing hahaha

tarnow
10-04-2008, 05:43 PM
I have actually seen a guy squeeze his boob and start to milk. It was disturbing hahaha

Sweet, free protein.

shithead
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
^ thats sick ^ lol

IronRobi
10-04-2008, 05:59 PM
What do you think the Vitamin B-6 does for you when on Tren? What other supplement do you take with it?

B6 is often given to women who chose not to breastfeed to supress lactation. It works by suppressing the rise in prolactin. Normally 400mg (200mg twice a day) is good for prevention, 600mg (200 3 times a day) works for suppression. This was prescribed to my lactating buddy by his doctor and I have kept a solid supply of it ever since. lol B6 doesn't work for everybody, some may need Bromocryptine but that comes with a ton of sides. I've also heard of using Dostinex and Letrozole with tren but have never done either.

I also normally run a liver support as well, but I do that reguardless what cycle I'm on.

IronRobi
10-04-2008, 06:00 PM
Sweet, free protein.

Well they do say muscle milk protein powder is made up of breast milk.... which reminds me, time for a shake!! hahaha :laugh

Tank
10-04-2008, 06:03 PM
While estrogen and prolactin are very big issues. One can address them with the following natural compounds. If the female bodybuilder stores body fat on the glute fold or upper thigh this will drastically help where as the male that has excess bodyfat on the triceps and pecs.

Reserveratrol has been shown to have a modulating effect on estrogen metabolism in two different mechanisms of action:

1. As an estrogen competitor on the estrogen receptors

2. As an inhibitor the aromatase enzyme that converts intra-cellular testosterone into estrogen.



Broccoli
Cauliflower
Arugula
Cabbage
Brussels Sprouts
Collards
Kale
Kohlrabi
Turnip
Rutabaga
Radish
Watercress being the gold standard

3.Diidolylmethane at 600 mg per day

4. Green Tea

5. Calcium D-Glucarate

tarnow
10-04-2008, 06:06 PM
Well they do say muscle milk protein powder is made up of breast milk.... which reminds me, time for a shake!! hahaha :laugh

Hope you're joking lol.

IronRobi
10-04-2008, 06:10 PM
Hope you're joking lol.

I think the worst part is... I wasn't! It's 7pm here, which is shake time for me. Thankfully I don't have a lactating titty to suck on so muscle milk it was. haha

bigdaddydrew123
10-04-2008, 07:58 PM
i think prolactin i way more common from tren than stated by alot of profiles . based on people i know who have used it id say its at least 50%. gonna start it soon but got dostinex this time hopefully it will work. i got prolactin sides at 75 eod.b6 didnt work for me by the way. but does for some.

shithead
10-04-2008, 08:41 PM
While estrogen and prolactin are very big issues. One can address them with the following natural compounds. If the female bodybuilder stores body fat on the glute fold or upper thigh this will drastically help where as the male that has excess bodyfat on the triceps and pecs.

Reserveratrol has been shown to have a modulating effect on estrogen metabolism in two different mechanisms of action:

1. As an estrogen competitor on the estrogen receptors

2. As an inhibitor the aromatase enzyme that converts intra-cellular testosterone into estrogen.



Broccoli
Cauliflower
Arugula
Cabbage
Brussels Sprouts
Collards
Kale
Kohlrabi
Turnip
Rutabaga
Radish
Watercress being the gold standard

3.Diidolylmethane at 600 mg per day

4. Green Tea

5. Calcium D-Glucarate

So big boy, how much of these foods will we need to eat to see any effects?

Mr Ontario
10-04-2008, 08:45 PM
Ya! I already shit 8 times a day at least! Would 4 capsules of Greens + suffice instead? :)


So big boy, how much of these foods will we need to eat to see any effects?

shithead
10-04-2008, 08:58 PM
You shit eight times a day? whoa! I only shit like that when I was runnin' the juice.

Mr Ontario
10-04-2008, 09:04 PM
You mean when your running the prune juice Shit Head :)


You shit eight times a day? whoa! I only shit like that when I was runnin' the juice.

shithead
10-04-2008, 09:23 PM
Try probiotics - just a little hint to increase your sex life, cause I'm sure your ol'lady doesnt like the smell of feces while shes givin' you a blowjob. Maybe a invest in some moist toilettes?

Oh wait, you dont even get blowjobs! lol

Mr Ontario
10-04-2008, 09:29 PM
If you talking to me..you can kiss my ass. :moon First off I use Udo's Choice Adult's Blend Probiotic. Second I use Soft Touch baby wipes before and after sex :)


Try probiotics - just a little hint do increase your sex life, cause I'm sure your ol'lady doesnt like the smell of feces while shes givin' you a blowjob. Maybe a invest in some moist toilettes?

Oh wait, you dont even get blowjobs! lol

Tank
11-04-2008, 11:43 AM
4-8 ounces of watercress per day would be suffice based the diet is clean and the source of watercress is organic and not cooked.

shithead
11-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Cool, I've never eaten watercress. Is it expensive?
Can ya buy it at the grocery store brother?

Tank
11-04-2008, 05:45 PM
I get my watercress from farmboy