Turinabol VS Anavar

[Boost]

I know that both Anavar and turinabol shut down your HPTA(balls) but do not cause aromatization(estrogenic sides). Since the side effects are the same, Which one is better for muscle gain?

Thanks! :)

[theboss]

i liked tbol better.

[Grunt76]

I think tbol clearly wins.

Although in higher doeses, var is like a recreational drug to me, it feels soo good.

[Boost]

I just want to make sure 100% that var or tbol do not cause any estrogen problems AT ALL! Is this 100% true?

I know it shuts your balls off but that is not an estrogen related problem. Please reassure me. Thanks.

[Turtle]

0 estrogen conversion with var.

[Grunt76]

No estrogen out of tbol at all.

[Boost]

Nice!

If they made an injection form of var or tbol eliminating the 17aa factor, it would be the best steroid of all IMO.

All you would have to do is run a drug to keep your hpta working properly and bam; Best cycle ever, as you could take larger doses if it was non-17aa.

BTW, is there a drug to keep your HPTA working when on cycle?

Thanks!

[Grunt76]

Nice!

If they made an injection form of var or tbol eliminating the 17aa factor, it would be the best steroid of all IMO.

All you would have to do is run a drug to keep your hpta working properly and bam; Best cycle ever, as you could take larger doses if it was non-17aa.

BTW, is there a drug to keep your HPTA working when on cycle?

Thanks!

Naltexone

[Turtle]

you could chose primo... similar characteristics as var adn tbol, but injectable and non 17aa. That being siad var is a very mild 17aa oral. not too sure about tbol.

[Turtle]

add masteron. Primo/masteron Enth would make a killer little cutting cycle

[Boost]

Var does magical things. Tbol probably more muscle, a lbs or two. But var will make you look better.

How does Var make you look better???

Neither one of them causes bloat and TBol gives more muscle. How can Var possibly make you look better? Does Var mutate your muscle structure? Does it do something to your muscles that Tbol does not?

All you can do is make a muscle bigger. How can/does Var make you look better?

Thanks.

[GTZ3]

Those whom Ive spoken to regard Var being better despite not being quite as dramatic. Looking past the minute difference in mass gained Var tends to keep your drier, increases vascularity, and has more pronounced strength increases. Tbol IMO is a grey area drug that falls into place somewhere between Winny/Var and Dbol.

But if your looking to use an oral as a kickstart tbol will get you off to the races in 4 weeks moreso than Var would.

[Boost]

Var increases vascularity


Is that permenant or just while on the drug?

[Boost]

Bump

[Grunt76]

One time I was chugging along with my normal 1400mg test, 700mg tren cycle.

Then I added var at 240mg ED.

BOOM. Love Var.

And then I was poor.

I agree that primo is like var/tbol without 17aa. I also agree that non-17aa versions of var and tbol should be made available. Hell, akylated masteron ended up being an incredible oral, and unmethylated M1T is the shiznit.

So much research needed on so many good compounds. Right now in the States they are pumping out new 17aa orals like crazy, because of the loophole in their law. Not all those are good, but certainly some are worth investigating. Sadly no money goes into the non-oral versions although technically since they would not be illegal they could be put into sterile oils and sold as laboratory supplies...

Why no one is doing that, I don't know...

[phatkid77]

what is a good Tbol dose???

[Grunt76]

what is a good Tbol dose???

40-60mg ED is effective, I have seen people do 100mg and love it, although you have to get through the headaches first, for most people. They don't seem to be related to any blood pressure issues.

[phatkid77]

thanks...so no real big cost savings either way...

phats

[Boost]

From the info that I have gathered I am leaning towards TBol. Same sides as var but more muscle gain with TBol and less $. Easy choice. :)

Thanks guys.