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cprom185
14-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Next March I was going to start cutting down for my first show. The cycle I was looking at doing is this

Week 1-20 Test en 750mg/week and Masteron enathate 600mg/week
week 10-20 Tren acetate 100mg EOD
Arimidex or Aromasin w.e I am able to get to avoid estro effects
I was also of thinking of throwing some Injectable winni v but I dont know yet. Not to sure if this is over doing it and it will be my 3rd cycle I have done.

pct week 1-4 nolva 40mg ed
week 4-8 20mg ed
Clomid week 1-4 100mg ed
week 4-8
if i can get my hands on some HCG I will try to run it at around 500iu to 1000iu for the first 3 or 4 weeks.

Solo59
14-06-2010, 03:55 PM
Whew, that's a very potent cycle, especially since this will be only your third cycle. Of course, you realize that "cutting" is mainly the result of workout time & method, and of diet? With the cycle you've planned, you will also build dense muscle, too. It's a very bold cycle with the danger of various sides since your major compounds are all androgens. 20 weeks for this much shit is a long time, too. I suggest you wait until you have more than five cycles under your belt.

But, if not:

1. Why not run Tren enanthate, so you'll be able to do all your injects twice a week for the whole cycle?

2. You won't need the Winnie. You've probably got too much already & Winnie can dry out your joints. It did mine.

3. Why only HCG for the first "3 or 4 weeks"? Run it twice a week throughout your cycle at about 500 iu per inject, and also two weeks after your last injection.

4. Why are you running Nolva & Clomid for weeks 4 to 8, or am I reading you wrong? With your Adex or Aro, you should be protected from aromatization.

5. You might consider at least having Dostinex on hand to protect you from prolactin what with all that Tren in you.

You're pushing the edge, brother, but if you can bear the sides and don't injure your organs, you should grow hard & mean as can be.

Solo

natenator
14-06-2010, 04:06 PM
what's your weight?

cprom185
14-06-2010, 04:31 PM
Yeah I figured it might be a little too much. How much tren en do you reconmend per week if I go the test en and tren en route? 500mg/400mg?

Right now I am at 230 around 15% bf.

cprom185
14-06-2010, 05:24 PM
What do you guys think about 500mg test e and 400 of eq a week then the last 8 weeks 80-100mg of var ed?

ironwill
14-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Im thinking...holy moly, this is a cycle planned for almost a year away, you will change your mind 546 times by then....Chill........Keep it simple.....Do what you will if its a 20 week cycle for the first 10 weeks, and then.....If you are a 200 lb plus man..test prop @ 400-600 mg/week, Masteron 300-450mg once you are getting close to single digit BF levels, like 10 % and under, tren for last 10 weeks, or anavar for last 10 weeks with winnie added last 5-6 weeks...
Simplicity is all thats needed....The diet and ability to stick to it and ability to train intense while doing aforementioned is key!!!!Drugs just help maintain what you build prior...For that, not much is required. Use aromasin for your AI @ 12.5-25 mg/day...
Stay healthy

cprom185
14-06-2010, 05:53 PM
Im thinking...holy moly, this is a cycle planned for almost a year away, you will change your mind 546 times by then....Chill........Keep it simple.....Do what you will if its a 20 week cycle for the first 10 weeks, and then.....If you are a 200 lb plus man..test prop @ 400-600 mg/week, Masteron 300-450mg once you are getting close to single digit BF levels, like 10 % and under, tren for last 10 weeks, or anavar for last 10 weeks with winnie added last 5-6 weeks...
Simplicity is all thats needed....The diet and ability to stick to it and ability to train intense while doing aforementioned is key!!!!Drugs just help maintain what you build prior...For that, not much is required. Use aromasin for your AI @ 12.5-25 mg/day...
Stay healthy
That sounds pretty good actually. Yeah I know diet and training is key lol I have already talked to a person who helps prep people for contests with there diet and posing and all that because I will really need help in that area when it comes.

gingerbreadman
14-06-2010, 07:31 PM
IMO for 1st show and 3rd cycle it's overkill. 500mg test/wk and 300mg tren/wk would be plenty. 8 wks would be fine