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MMASTAR
10-06-2010, 06:43 PM
Obviously lots of us lift weights to achieve hypertrophy, so what is the best way?? I train with a partner and generally use him for a spot to get 2 more reps then i could on my own. Is this the best way to really tear the muscle? How do those that train alone achieve hypertrophy? pyramiding weights? What about heavy negatives? Drop sets?? What do you guys think?

GYMBRAT
10-06-2010, 06:45 PM
using a spotter to go beyond is fine but I don't think you wanna tear a muscle ;) ha

MMASTAR
10-06-2010, 06:47 PM
not a tear obviously, but isnt the goal to stretch, hurt, damage, tear (whatever you wanna call it) the muscle so it repairs itself bigger and stronger?

GYMBRAT
10-06-2010, 06:52 PM
I was just razzing ya bro I knew what ya meant. yeah absolutely you wanna work your muscles beyond exhaustion, and you can def do that with a spotter to get them last 1-3 reps past failure you bet

Talo
10-06-2010, 07:08 PM
Be careful doing that or you will tear a muscle.

GYMBRAT
10-06-2010, 07:11 PM
true that^

JonnyO
10-06-2010, 07:15 PM
get your spotter to add weight or push down on the negatives on certain exercises, this works great

ironwill
10-06-2010, 07:19 PM
Or to add to the good advices.....Have your spotter help you lift the last few reps, then you carry the negative back down, similar to what JO says, but a little less time consuming then having to add weight......Your negative portion of a lift is much stronger than the power portion...

riccosuabe
10-06-2010, 07:29 PM
Obviously lots of us lift weights to achieve hypertrophy, so what is the best way?? I train with a partner and generally use him for a spot to get 2 more reps then i could on my own. Is this the best way to really tear the muscle? How do those that train alone achieve hypertrophy? pyramiding weights? What about heavy negatives? Drop sets?? What do you guys think?

im assuming you mean break down the muscle.you can do this on your own by just thrashing the muscle in various methods.you could do 100s or 21s(in all exercises) or giant sets etc,etc.i train on my own and i just get in there with 5 exercises for large muscle groups and 3 for smaller and just destroy that bodypart then go.people get obsessed about breaking the muscle down and do way too much.dorian once said "when you hit a nail into a piece of wood and its all the way in,you wouldnt keep hitting the nail would you?" and thats the way i think now and its paid off,cut the exercises down and just destroy that muscle group and go home and rest

Jazzy
12-06-2010, 08:08 AM
I train Alone, but If I think I need a spot, I ask to a person and when I can do more, He help me a little just to finish this reps or I do one more reps..Because I think that the best reps you can do is by yourself...a little help is okay for 1-2 forced reps..or doing negative forced reps..But, like a persone who do bench press...I'm not okay when the spotter do deadlift to help you...loll

Of like Db lyings extension..I think it's hard to do forces reps...So, I do a down the rack..or Take a rest and continue until I do my 10 reps for exemple!^^

PdH
12-06-2010, 09:05 AM
Muscle growth from weight lifting is the result of micro tears in the muscle tissue. These tears then repair larger like a broken bone. We know this b/c of electron microscopic biopsy of the muscle tissue. The most efficient way of achieving micro tears is through heavy negatives and progressively heavier positives. It's actually not that complicated.

gettinbigger
12-06-2010, 10:40 AM
im assuming you mean break down the muscle.you can do this on your own by just thrashing the muscle in various methods.you could do 100s or 21s(in all exercises) or giant sets etc,etc.i train on my own and i just get in there with 5 exercises for large muscle groups and 3 for smaller and just destroy that bodypart then go.people get obsessed about breaking the muscle down and do way too much.dorian once said "when you hit a nail into a piece of wood and its all the way in,you wouldnt keep hitting the nail would you?" and thats the way i think now and its paid off,cut the exercises down and just destroy that muscle group and go home and rest

Definitely you want to mix it up when you are trying to trash the muscles, to the list above I'd add rest-pause and partials.

riccosuabe
12-06-2010, 04:41 PM
to the list above I'd add rest-pause

those are my fave at the moment.

tiramisu
12-06-2010, 07:24 PM
not a tear obviously, but isnt the goal to stretch, hurt, damage, tear (whatever you wanna call it) the muscle so it repairs itself bigger and stronger?

umm, no.

The goal is to get the maximum number of muscle fibres to contract maximally, without causing injury, that will still allow for adequate recovery between exercise sessions.

The goal is not to stretch, hurt, damage or tear. This is exactly the wrong mindset to have to build muscle or strength. Alternately it's a great way of overtraining, injuring and insuring that you don't get bigger and stronger.

If the goal is to get bigger and stronger. This means working with the heavy effective weight, progressively increasing the weight lifted and eating excess calories over time.

btufts
12-06-2010, 07:35 PM
I've been starting all my worouts with a 5x5 on my big exercises i.e. flat/incline bench press, bent over rows, dead lifts, squats, shoulder presses, heavy bb curls, close grip tri presses. I follow up with 2-4 more exercises in a range of 8-20 reps depending on the muscle group for 1-2 working sets each. I've put on a lot of size and strength doing these the past 2 months I would highly recommend.

maximus14
12-06-2010, 08:04 PM
^ ive been trying what btuft has been and pyramiding this as well 3-6 with compounds then 8-20 with isolations, it seems to be working quite well