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He is not a big fat slob wearing a suit that aids in his lift, and he goes ALL THE WAY DOWN.
This impresses me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yccWTFS3nf8
Ritch
09-06-2010, 11:24 PM
He may go all the way down, but his legs don`t impress me at all. Sorry to say this bro, but...
FAIL!
lol, no hes not a big guy at all, be he lifts weight properly.
pardon me for thinking that moving weight was cool...its far cooler to be huge and move weight a few inches....
Ritch
09-06-2010, 11:32 PM
lol, no hes not a big guy at all, be he lifts weight properly.
pardon me for thinking that moving weight was cool...its far cooler to be huge and move weight a few inches....
I can`t believe you`re saying that. Why do most of us train? Well I want to be as big and lean as possible. Nobody when they see your legs will care how much weight you can or can`t move over a given distance if they`re small. Size, shape and cuts are what`s impressive. Do what you gotta do to get there. I`m not against full rom, but man you are stuck on this for what reason bro?
I think you`re exagerating with the few inches comment. Most do in between, sure they could do more, but it`s going to involve a bunch of work that person probably dosen`t want to do as there isn`t much of an immediate payback. And yeah ego plays a part.
Since you seem to be in this whole "athletic stuff" you seem to look down on people who do this for the "look"
Ritch
09-06-2010, 11:40 PM
But hey, we`re still pals...
Victor85
09-06-2010, 11:55 PM
Good form and depth and he must have crazy endurance, but why is it highlighted that he is LIFETIME DRUG FREE!? Am I suppose to be in awe or something?
morty
10-06-2010, 12:05 AM
Do I get Reps if I have been LIFETIME DRUG FULL
I think my favorite lift is squats, and yes I bottom out
Mark Rippetoe says " if it's too heavy to squat below parallel, it's too heavy to have on your back".
liquidfire
10-06-2010, 12:53 AM
Deep, pretty heavy and awesome endurance. That's good stuff!
I wonder what his max is though? I have a feeling with those toothpicks it's not much... Oh, and I take offense to the "big fat slob wearing a suit that aids in his lift" comment... Just because you don't understand the sport doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. I could say, "atleast he's not a speedo wearing, fairy boy prancing around on stage".
Very impressive effort. Anyone who has anything negative to say about that should post a vid doing better. lol
Aaron_37
10-06-2010, 01:25 AM
Deep, pretty heavy and awesome endurance. That's good stuff!
I wonder what his max is though? I have a feeling with those toothpicks it's not much... Oh, and I take offense to the "big fat slob wearing a suit that aids in his lift" comment... Just because you don't understand the sport doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. I could say, "atleast he's not a speedo wearing, fairy boy prancing around on stage".
Reps.
I couldn't tell for sure if it was 375 myself but if it is I'd say with the 22 or 23? reps that I counted he's good for 600 raw anyways if he trained up to it properly.
not bad for a guy that looks to be 200 pounds.
Triple bodyweight for anyone is something to be proud of no matter what size his legs are.
I'm willing to bet their bigger than they look there.
His size could be all upper inner/outer thigh.
Hrm, not sure if its just me but, anyone look at how forward his knees are going? He's basically putting all of the weight on his glutes n hams, quads will never hit failure with that form.
natenator
10-06-2010, 08:34 AM
of course he can hit that depth. He has no calves or hamstrings to get in the way.
you know you spend too much time on CBB when you can tell when the other guys go on cycle...cough*#8*cough....
of course he can hit that depth. He has no calves or hamstrings to get in the way.
LMAO
ironwill
10-06-2010, 10:01 AM
you know you spend too much time on CBB when you can tell when the other guys go on cycle...cough*#8*cough....
:gayfight
im getting good at it to....lol
Sandwiches
10-06-2010, 10:46 AM
bahaha thats the best smiley ^^
steve_d
10-06-2010, 11:12 AM
He may go all the way down, but his legs don`t impress me at all. Sorry to say this bro, but...
FAIL!
his legs aren't that small...same days my legs look small in the gym too depending on the shorts I am wearing. go through a couple more of his videos. for example:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bastionhead#p/u/41/udENBvFxpwk
they aren't jay cutler size, but they are as big as you would think for someone squating 3 plates for a bunch of reps.
natenator
10-06-2010, 11:14 AM
damn! I love that calve contraption
Beats the ****ing crap that most GL's have!!!
the ones I go to don't even have a standing calve raise machine! wtf
damn! I love that calve contraption
Beats the ****ing crap that most GL's have!!!
the ones I go to don't even have a standing calve raise machine! wtf
So how did you gets yours so big without the equipment :)
BTW - you've got a PM , check your box !! :yeah
im not talking shit about the sport at all. yes being big is cool and thats what BB is about, kinda. I also think its about lifting lots of weight PROPERLY.
I seriously cant stand people who think a 90 degree squat is even close to a full squat. No it doesnt matter when youre on stage what you can lift but probably 99.99999% of people who "bodybuild" never, ever step on stage. Most of us are in this to improve our strength, aesthetics, health, or any combination.
If you cant squat it all the way down, you have no business squatting it. I did not make this rule up, I just think its accurate.
Since when was being a big fat slob more impressive than a "skinny" guy (I love how 200lb lean guys are considered "skinny") in the sport of bodybuilding? The bigger and fatter you are makes you strong and cool? Isnt bodybuilding about ratios? Chest / back / legs to waist ratio. If so, all these "impressive" fat slobs are failing miserabley at both lifting and bodybuilding.
FAIL
his legs aren't that small...same days my legs look small in the gym too depending on the shorts I am wearing. go through a couple more of his videos. for example:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bastionhead#p/u/41/udENBvFxpwk
they aren't jay cutler size, but they are as big as you would think for someone squating 3 plates for a bunch of reps.
that video was sick. that is a cool machine he built there.
as for him having "small" legs. lol right....
his legs are for sure bigger than most of the guys on this board, and most of the guys that lift in general from what Ive seen in many gyms over the years.
drdnj
10-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Too much time on your hands #8
Now get into the gym and squat! ;)
^^ fair enough.
I will definitely post a vid of me squatting come sep. Hopefully I will be able to get 405 for some reps by then. Full squats of course, nothing else matters.
natenator
10-06-2010, 01:09 PM
^^ fair enough.
I will definitely post a vid of me squatting come sep. Hopefully I will be able to get 405 for some reps by then. Full squats of course, nothing else matters.
why then?
why not now? It doesn't matter about the weight as much as it does the form and depth right?
I dont have a gym partner to film me. I might convince my brother to do it, but I dont have a camera either lol.
My dad might let me use his. Ill see what I can do. Id like to get a critique on my squat form too from a couple of the knowledgeable guys on here. Ive had coaching, but its been a while since...Ill see what I can do. Maybe 225 for as many as I can.
Im also dieting right now too, eating carbs for breakfast and during workout only....
Is bench pressing halfway down as beneficial as full ROM? It seems to be common sense to me that lifting it lower / farther is more beneficial to building strength.
Im pretty sure that a 90 degree squat is not considered a legit squat in competitions....am I wrong?
Is bench pressing halfway down as beneficial as full ROM?
They also have there place.... BOARDS.
natenator
10-06-2010, 01:57 PM
They also have there place.... BOARDS.
you can't talk about advance techniques with Jersey. You'd have to BE advanced to use advanced techniques.
natenator
10-06-2010, 02:08 PM
So how did you gets yours so big without the equipment :)
BTW - you've got a PM , check your box !! :yeah
PM replied.
I always thought my calves were genetics but then I realized I worked them a lot when I was younger through my football, hockey and rugger training so maybe that's where I got the size from?
It certainly isn't from training them dutifully in the past few years unless I was in contest prep.
Prob from squatting too :)
OntariOMuscle101
10-06-2010, 03:31 PM
I betya he can jump HIIIIIIIIGH!
gregdoucette
10-06-2010, 03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgWgIMZ_4U
steve_d
10-06-2010, 04:13 PM
you should post a video with no bands, since most of us can't really equate what a banded lift would equal to an unbanded lift. Especially when you say they help till half way, some people may assume you're only lifting 200 pounds for the first half.
clearly all of the clowns on here who are repping the half or quarter squat often practice this themselves. if this works for you then great. keep on keepin on.
just dont pretend your squat actually counts for anything because you arent actually lifting all the weight all the way.
yes partial lifts have their place for blasting through plateaus, but realistically, how many people are using them for that? honestly? its all about the ego. lets stack on so many plates so that we look cool while we move weight 8 inches. grow the **** up and move the weight all the way. or maybe thats too advanced for me to understand. it must be so advanced to move weight half way that i cant comprehend it due to my tiny brain and full ROM squat technique.
thats DISTILLED in me pretty hardcore lol...
If you start doing them you will be surprised how strong you will get.
^^ dude. seriously. is nobody listening to me?
im not saying that partial squats dont have their place. i never once said that.
what im saying is that doing a half or quarter squat as part of your regular routine and thinking that you are strong makes you a ****ing loser. partials are great for blasting plateaus but how many people are actually doing them for that purpose? of the 1/4 people that even work out their legs once a week, i would say maybe 1/10 of those people can properly squat. that leaves a shitload of people in between there who just load up the bar stand under it and move a few inches to look cool. i cant escape these ****ing clowns where i train and it pisses me off because they are taking up the squat rack and making lots of noise so everyone will look.
i actually hope that bad things will happen to these people and that they never will come back to my gym again.
i train with jifelacket from this board and he is FREAKISH strong for his age and weight. it just pisses me off when people do shit so others will look. it wastes my time while i wait for you and it annoys me because youre that stupid and youre still alive.
im gonna make a video of me squatting 225 as many times as i can while im on virtually no carbs. i only weigh around 220 so i think thats a fair amount of weight for me to do a max rep set at.
natenator
10-06-2010, 04:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgWgIMZ_4U
according to Jersey that's only a 3/4 squat and you are a pussy.
I say: good squat!!!!!
compared to the guy doing the 335 for 23 reps or whatever, ya, that is a 3/4 squat.
im gonna make a video of me squatting 225 as many times as i can while im on virtually no carbs. i only weigh around 220 so i think thats a fair amount of weight for me to do a max rep set at.
No it's not . You should be well over 300....
^^ if i wasnt dieting i would agree with that statement.
IMO dieting affects your endurance, not your explosive strength
at 195ish lbs i could 3/4 squat well over 315 for 6
I can for sure still squat 315 for at least 8-10 reps, but im talking about 225 for the 15-20+ reps max.
Similar to the video that SS posted, but full squats on each set. Ive been doing fairly low rep heavy maxes so I think that will be a good change. Im gonna try some today actually to see where Im at.
natenator
10-06-2010, 05:24 PM
IMO dieting affects your endurance, not your explosive strength
at 195ish lbs i could 3/4 squat well over 315 for 6
well, it will over a long duration diet but generally that first set/exercise should have decent strength thats fairly consistent for 12-14 weeks out of a 16 week diet.
Haha yeah pdh if its 335 for 23 than my prediction of about 600 would be out of line.
Depending on muscle fibre makeup he could still train up to a 550 IMHO with 335 for 23 as a GREAT starting point for peaking.
His fast twitch makeup would ultimately dictate if he coud peak that high though.
I know this for a fact because my training partner when I was at university in Hawaii did this at 19 years old weighing 170 pounds.
Going from 23 reps to singles is a completely different animal. I don't think a lot of bodybuilders know how to peak properly for singles. No offense of course. Different sport thats all.
I forgot to say that he did it natural as well.
People get offended when the word "natural" is used sometimes but it does make a difference. lol It would obviously be easier to achieve "juiced" lol
Victor85
10-06-2010, 06:04 PM
This guy has pretty good form too. IMO (except he dont look like a puss puss)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPimN9rmPRk
Yup, I wouldn't go any lower than that with that much weight.
Too much flexion and risk of injury in my opinion.
Ass to the grass with that much would herniate most peoples discs I believe. I know! lol
I meant to refer to cch's post and not pdh, sorry.
O-Train
10-06-2010, 07:44 PM
..you should start entering all the PL meets and go asstograss just to set an example and make the point that all them lifters and judges are wrong.. ya know, raise some awareness.. POWER TO THE PEOPLE...
..but seriously Jersey.. you're honestly the only individual I've ever heard of with this notion.. may I ask who or what instilled it in you and why you feel it's so important and beneficial?
A full squat is full range of motion. I don't agree with everything Jersey is saying but he's right about this.
Powerlifting is all about lifting maximum weight possible. They decided below parallel was a "legal" squat, not a full squat. Some federations consider a legal squat above parallel.
^^ exactly.
BTW I just squatted 225 for 25 reps full squats and Ive been doing 3 rep maxes for 6 weeks now at least. I could prolly get that up to 40 reps by the end of the summer.
O-Train
10-06-2010, 08:05 PM
No one is really trying to make any valid arguments.
Squatting narrow stance to full depth with high bar placement (like an olympic lifter) is quite different from a wider stance low bar placement squat (just below parallel powerlifting squat).
With an olympic style squat you stay very upright because of the bar placement and the knees go forward quite a bit. The olympic lifters I've talked to all talk about squats as a quad exercise. It makes sense because when the knees go forward with a fairly upright position it is mainly quads.
With a powerlifting squat there is a lot of "sitting back" and almost all of the load is transferred into the hips which makes it much more of a posterior chain exercise (glutes/hams). It would be very difficult and probably not a great idea, to do full squats with a powerlifter style setup. It just wouldn't work very well.
Because of all the differences I kind of think of different styles of squatting as different lifts. The motion is fairly similar but the prime movers and technique is quite different. Different strokes for different folks.
Most people do neither and just plain suck. They get in the way and are generally annoying. but...Keep in mind that once upon a time everyone sucked at squatting.
gregdoucette
10-06-2010, 08:49 PM
335 for 23 is not near a 600 squat. I have done 405 for 20 and can only get 535.
I've only done 405 for 10 and peaked at 545 for a single on the squat raw.
I've also started out with 405 only for 10 and peaked at 585 on the deadlift raw.
I have no idea what I could've gotten for reps on either as I was purely powerlifting at that time following an old school ed coan routine based on periodization.
People peak differently I believe depending on their fast twitch make-up in certain bodyparts along with how they train their nervous system and of course technique.
I know you know your stuff but there are no hard and fast rules when trying to convert reps to singles Greg.
My roommate in college would peak at 550 and would start his priodization at 315 for 2 sets of ten and go up from there until hitting 550 for a single. Thats all I know. Very low volume. Super strict form. High intensity in each rep. Of course he wasn't hitting even close to failure for the first 6 weeks. Mostly just training the nervous system.
[QUOTE=cch;383798]Yeah, a full squat if you gotta take short in the woods.. but unless you gotta jump up quick cause a bear or an angry nate (kidding bro) is coming at ya, when else in life do you ever lift something with your ass to the ground? :)
To pick up a large round stone.
I can only comment on what works for me.
Talking about converting reps to singles would be a waste of time I think.
When powerlifting I never train to failure generally stopping 2 reps short.
I only do 2 sets of anyone of the big 3 with full intensity but still stopping short if that makes any sense?
If I fry my nervous system I'm done. I can go from 495 for 5 to 515 for one if I train to failure completely messing up my strength cylce.
After 495 I only do singles from then on but increase the sets beyond 2 and go by feel.
From experience I can map out a full 10 weeks and know exactly how much weight I'm going to move for exactly how many reps each week in order to work towards my peak. I don't do anymore or less.
drdnj
10-06-2010, 10:08 PM
clearly all of the clowns...
thats DISTILLED in me pretty hardcore lol...
I think you mean "INSTILLED"...
Why do we need 2 threads on the exact same rant?? We get it man!
D
drdnj
10-06-2010, 10:22 PM
well, it will over a long duration diet but generally that first set/exercise should have decent strength thats fairly consistent for 12-14 weeks out of a 16 week diet.
Agreed....
I think you mean "INSTILLED"...
Why do we need 2 threads on the exact same rant?? We get it man!
D
clearly you missed the typo earlier. nevermind.
Dallas Hogan
11-06-2010, 04:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMvub_SD0Y
Dallas Hogan
11-06-2010, 04:33 AM
NOW THIS IS IMPRESSIVE
http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18907
that 600 lb squat was deep as fudge. the no arms part was utterly ridiculous
drdnj
11-06-2010, 02:23 PM
clearly you missed the typo earlier. nevermind.
hahaha...ok my bad for not paying attention...
drdnj
11-06-2010, 02:24 PM
drdnj, I made the mistake earlier of writing distilled in my post when I meant instilled. Jersey was just pointing out my failure. Distilled is common in my vocabulary being that I work at a winery.. it was on my mind as I had just finished reading a relating chapter in my text..
.......anyhow.....
Hahaha...well, this thread makes me want to drink.
Flexxx
11-06-2010, 02:28 PM
Deep, pretty heavy and awesome endurance. That's good stuff!
I wonder what his max is though? I have a feeling with those toothpicks it's not much... Oh, and I take offense to the "big fat slob wearing a suit that aids in his lift" comment... Just because you don't understand the sport doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. I could say, "atleast he's not a speedo wearing, fairy boy prancing around on stage".
That arguement will never get old. Bodybuilders think powerlifters are fat, and powerlifters think that bodybuilders are weak.
Its also all about technique. You are never going to see a powerlifter take a narrow stance with 500+lbs on his back. Balance is off and it no longer becomes a hip dominant move.
Since I injured my knees I have had to squat wide, more powerlifter style. Took me awhile but I am squatting more then I could with good knees and always to parallel, which is my limit as I only have 90 degrees of movement in my left knee.
natenator
11-06-2010, 02:38 PM
That arguement will never get old. Bodybuilders think powerlifters are fat, and powerlifters think that bodybuilders are weak.
Its also all about technique. You are never going to see a powerlifter take a narrow stance with 500+lbs on his back. Balance is off and it no longer becomes a hip dominant move.
Since I injured my knees I have had to squat wide, more powerlifter style. Took me awhile but I am squatting more then I could with good knees and always to parallel, which is my limit as I only have 90 degrees of movement in my left knee.
how about 1000lbs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0lF4lm3efA
Flexxx
11-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Impressive as hell. That guy has some good size on his quads.
But having to dig back to the early 90s to find someone doing it proves my point :)
how about 1000lbs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0lF4lm3efA
the exception not the rule
natenator
11-06-2010, 02:46 PM
haha I know. I just wanted to post a Kirk vid :D
http://www.youtube.com/user/wonderwoman8772#p/a/u/0/vJ7UOHansqg
compliments of Mrs. Meat.
Surprisingly strong forearms on that lady.She didn't have to get very low.Pick up any barrels at that winery?
Graphxxx
13-06-2010, 10:35 PM
Well i know a guy that's a powerlifter, hes surprisingly strong for his age. Just turned 22 in Jan and he managed to squat 1025 lbs. He fainted after finishing the lift simply because of the immense blood presure in his head. If anyone wants to see the video let me know.
MMASTAR
14-06-2010, 07:31 AM
post it up!!
natenator
14-06-2010, 10:29 AM
this is a good squat! 660lbs
Graphxxx
14-06-2010, 10:45 AM
here is the video. Obviously he isn't going as low as he could, but at 1025, going to low could be dangerous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQuF2Kdv2c
Check this Shany girl, shes very impressive, 550 lbs one squat, for a wommen, that is amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZM8e4f-mSE&feature=related
^^ obviously you missed the point of this thread and my others. i watched that video waiting for someone to do even a half squat but alas, I dont think anyone even went to parallel.
Oh well...
Graphxxx
14-06-2010, 02:28 PM
^^ obviously you missed the point of this thread and my others. i watched that video waiting for someone to do even a half squat but alas, I dont think anyone even went to parallel.
Oh well...
They do, they don't have the choice to go parallel, competetions are strict at hell... Plus as the size of mike's legs, he can't bend down nearly as much as many of us on the forums. I don't know how much he could lift raw, probably atleast 700 and he could probably go down bellow parrellel without the suit.
this is a good squat! 660lbs
yes, that is a good squat. and that guys legs are ****ing huge. i dont buy the "his legs are too big to go to parallel" bullshit.
Nate posted a vid of a huge monster doing a DEEP ass squat, and look at the dude in that pic he posted too.
Almost anyone can go well below parallel regardless of leg size. Man the **** up and go deep, or stfu and go home.
Ritch
15-06-2010, 11:46 AM
I can almost picture #8 having dreams at night about this... Waking up screaming "Full reps you pussies! Man up, STFU, no exuses, full reps, that`s not parallel"
You gotta let this one go man, it`s killing you!
Ritch
15-06-2010, 11:47 AM
Congrats on the hittng the 3000 post. And yes this is another one for me, bringinng me closer to the 7 mark! And as always, post whore free!
I can almost picture #8 having dreams at night about this... Waking up screaming "Full reps you pussies! Man up, STFU, no exuses, full reps, that`s not parallel"
You gotta let this one go man, it`s killing you!
bahahahahaa....lol
honestly bro, its the fact that my current gym only has two squat racks and more often than not i have to wait while someone "squats" some weight. I had to go up to a kid doing curls in the squat rack the other day and say "ok, youre done here" because I wanted to squat and he was curling the standard 95lbs with the olympic bar.
I seriously cant stand watching someone stack up a whole bunch of weight on the bar and barely move it at all. You look like a ****ing loser who doesnt know how to lift. I never wake up screaming that, but stranger things have happened....
Ritch
15-06-2010, 04:06 PM
^^^ for sure it sucks. Especially the squat crack/or even worse cage is used for curling. You`d shit yourself at my gym... There`s a guy (he`s kinda short) who does the Canada`s and has the shortest range of motion on the squat I`ve ever seen. Who knows though, maybe it`s part of his programm into some sort of phase. But his legs are insanely huge.
^^ that guy is the exception to the rule. guys doing partials to push through plateaus is one thing.
ALWAYS doing partials because you think you look cool is another thing. Im a young guy, but I really do hate young people.
And older people for that matter.
I pretty much hate everyone equally actually.
drdnj
15-06-2010, 09:50 PM
bahahahahaa....lol
honestly bro, its the fact that my current gym only has two squat racks and more often than not i have to wait while someone "squats" some weight. I had to go up to a kid doing curls in the squat rack the other day and say "ok, youre done here" because I wanted to squat and he was curling the standard 95lbs with the olympic bar.
I seriously cant stand watching someone stack up a whole bunch of weight on the bar and barely move it at all. You look like a ****ing loser who doesnt know how to lift. I never wake up screaming that, but stranger things have happened....
But they pay membership fees too...maybe they get sick of you doing things perfectly and stealing all their hot girl friends. Suggestion, avoid people and train early in the morning.
^^ that brings me to a whole new thread I was thinking about starting. Good call.
Ritch
16-06-2010, 06:25 PM
Does this count as impressive?
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/6/d/6de2e_ORIG-DCC_squat.jpg
Victor85
16-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Does this count as impressive?
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/6/d/6de2e_ORIG-DCC_squat.jpg
Yes it does!:D
natenator
16-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Does this count as impressive?
http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/6/d/6de2e_ORIG-DCC_squat.jpg
she definitely gets deep :D
O-Train
24-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Motivation for Jersey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GG9KsSiMMc&feature=related
Very impressive. He had no quit in him.
natenator
25-06-2010, 10:56 AM
Motivation for Jersey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GG9KsSiMMc&feature=related
he could have gone lower. Jersey will call this a 6/8 squat.
Motivation for Jersey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GG9KsSiMMc&feature=related
holy ****ing shitballs
Big D
25-06-2010, 12:56 PM
she definitely gets deep :D
lol thats Ritch in a wig
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