HGH + not to sure...

[jacked_to_the_nine]

hey dudes... i'm looking for some advice... basicaly i'm getting some GH and will be running 2iu's EOD, i'm 10 weeks out from comp (not a bodybuilder, but indeed i do love BB) anyway, i was thinking it would make total sense to start with the GH and then start running winny 6 weeks out... i'll be cutting 15lbs maybe even more because i don't know what HGH is gonna do to me lol, i hear water retention is a possibility, but thats ok with me cuz i figure the winny will help dry me out 2-3 weeks out... also winny has a tendency to mess with joints so maybe the GH will subside those sides... i'm 172lbs, and will competing at 160lbs, i don't mind gaining some wieght even... i know test is like huge synergy with GH but i can't get stupid huge eh... thanks.

[natenator]

you "can't get stupid huge" I don't understand? You certainly aren't going to be putting on new muscle in a caloric deficit and doing regular daily cardio.

2-4IU GH (depending on strength) is fine. Winny without test is a bad idea. GH without test isn't much of a smarter idea.

[Memo]

ive been reading everywhere that GH at les than 5IU is like wasting your money.

[natenator]

ive been reading everywhere that GH at les than 5IU is like wasting your money.
not to aid in fat loss or health benefits but to help aid in muscle building 5IU is pretty much a waste. 8IU-10IU is generally accepted as the de facto standard.

[Rrrrolla]

What kinda comp is it if youre not a bodybuilder bro? Got a little confused at the beginning. If its a show you are doing, then I think you are on the right track, but to be honest, do you really think gh is necessary? I'm not sure what you look like, or how big you are, or anything like that, but I dont even really need gh for getting lean for shows. Can you put some pics up displaying your size and bodyfat? That might help with the advice you get.

[Praetorian]

GH should be run ED not EOD.
At 4iu or less you wont see any water retention in males.
2-4 iu is sufficient for fat loss.
You need a better plan that what you posted if you are expecting decent results.
P

[jacked_to_the_nine]

What kinda comp is it if youre not a bodybuilder bro? Got a little confused at the beginning. If its a show you are doing, then I think you are on the right track, but to be honest, do you really think gh is necessary? I'm not sure what you look like, or how big you are, or anything like that, but I dont even really need gh for getting lean for shows. Can you put some pics up displaying your size and bodyfat? That might help with the advice you get.

sorry dudes... i've been rather vegue because i just want to keep safe about what i do, its getting more serious now... but lets just say i do grappling, and kickboxing... so yeah, its really not about the muscle for me, its about performace... and i just figured that if the GH is so good for your joints and tendons, that doing winny with it, could counter its joint depleting sides while utilizing winstrols awesome peromance enhancment... and yes i have been thinking of adding test prop as well... let me know if you think i'm going to blow up from this... i'm 5'9" about 10-12% BF 172lbs, will be cutting to 160lbs in 9 weeks. thanks a lot!


wk 1-6 GH 2iu EOD (this GH is suppose to be amazing, a few level III's use it, and i get it from their source)
wk 1-6 winny 30mg ED
wk 1-6 test prop 100mg EOD

i'll be staying on GH for 3-4 weeks after the cycle along with just some Nolva