View Full Version : Ethyl Oleate, what you guys think of this?
I could get a much cheaper Ethyl Oleate Test E, almost double the concentration for the same price. Is it any good, what are you guys experience with this?
Ethyl Oleate is simply the carrier oil. (oleic acid & ethanol) Some can tolerate it fine, while others have allergic reactions. What's important is the quality of the test powder and the true concentration. If it's a known lab it's probably fine, though you may be one of the unlucky ones that has an allergic reaction. If it's an unknown lab simply unloading product cheap, I would steer clear.
natenator
08-06-2010, 08:43 AM
when you buy on price you leave labs no choice but to cut corners.
i like EO, very smooth to inject, no pain whatsoever for me
theboss
08-06-2010, 11:15 AM
when you buy on price you leave labs no choice but to cut corners.
x2
go for quality..not price.
EO like others said is agrees with some, but not everyone.
bongd
08-06-2010, 11:52 PM
Ehh... injectables aren't something you should really be frugal with.
GYMBRAT
09-06-2010, 12:10 AM
its all bout the quality ;)
Iwant2Grow
09-06-2010, 12:22 AM
i have no problems with eo makes for smooth injects and higher MG concentrations.
as for the gear i have no comment is it all about quality of the raw
natenator
09-06-2010, 07:12 AM
i have no problems with eo makes for smooth injects and higher MG concentrations.
as for the gear i have no comment is it all about quality of the raw
well no. It's not ALL about the quality of the raws.
I can't use EO personaly
swollen/red spot injection that last several days
tiramisu
09-06-2010, 09:41 AM
EO makes me weep. 400 mg/ml test while cheaper by volume is something that I've personally had little luck with. Without exception 400 mg/ml test has been uncomfortable. I put up with it for 4 or 5 vials but 2 days of muscle bruising gets old after a while. I also worry that the solvents are killing tissue and creating scar tissue.
Once probably doesn't matter, twice might not matter, but if you keep damaging tissue with injections it's not a good thing. Scar tissue, sterile absesses, and full blown abscesses seem like likely results from repeatedly injecting substances that cause inflammation.
... So after using myself as a human pin cushion with 400mg/ml test I've come to the conclusion that 250 mg/ml doesn't hurt, doesn't cause inflammation, and doesn't require solvents and works just fine.
its not necessary to have EO to have a high level of test... mine is 450 mg/ml (well thats what the label says anyways), oil based, and smoooooth
dremen
09-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Grapeseed oil is the SHIT:D
EO ****s me right up.
tiramisu
09-06-2010, 05:18 PM
its not necessary to have strong solvents to have a high level of test... mine is 450 mg/ml (well thats what the label says anyways), oil based, and smoooooth
At 450 mg/ml test enanthate will not dissolve in oil without solvents. It is necessary to use them and if it isn't ethyl oleate then it is benzyl benzoate. If it's smooooooth then someone is lying to you.
natenator
09-06-2010, 05:21 PM
At 450 mg/ml test enanthate will not dissolve in oil without solvents. It is necessary to use them and if it isn't ethyl oleate then it is benzyl benzoate. If it's smooooooth then someone is lying to you.
I think what he means is with a proper carrier (almond oil is also a good carrier compared to other oils) you don't have to use AS much in terms of BB/BA to hold higher concentrations.
tiramisu
09-06-2010, 05:34 PM
The thickness of the oil for injection doesn't seem to effect it's need for a solvent at 400 mg/ml +, at least when I use gso or usp cottonseed oil. While the cottonseed oil is thinner than gso or almond oil it doesn't effect the solvents required. Test E somewhere around 300 will crash without the aid of solvents.
At 450 mg/ml test enanthate will not dissolve in oil without solvents.
i incorrectly used the term solvents, when i was specifically referring to EO
rob66679
09-06-2010, 06:36 PM
when you buy on price you leave labs no choice but to cut corners.
Generally.... But not always.
Seen some pretty high priced crap around too lol.
tiramisu
09-06-2010, 06:39 PM
The markup on testosterone can be pretty silly.
While I understand there's no point in being a criminal if you aren't making money but some of the ugl prices are awfully close to hg. Generic powders are dirt cheap.
natenator
09-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Generally.... But not always.
Seen some pretty high priced crap around too lol.
true, I forgot we have union workers in this world lol
GYMBRAT
09-06-2010, 06:49 PM
I've never personally had any issues with EO, but then again I'm IRONMAN!!
Ritch
09-06-2010, 08:01 PM
EO was fine with me. The shots go in very smooth without pain.
rob66679
09-06-2010, 09:42 PM
true, I forgot we have union workers in this world lol
Yep, I'll Unionize the whole UGL scene lol.
Where to start......... Well, If it costs less than $5 to make 10 ml....... theres a lot of room there for some big ass union dues, a big fat initiation fee, and plenty of grey areas for kickbacks lol.
Too bad I'd probably dissapear faster then Jimmy Hoffa lol.
rob66679
09-06-2010, 09:45 PM
The markup on testosterone can be pretty silly.
While I understand there's no point in being a criminal if you aren't making money but some of the ugl prices are awfully close to hg. Generic powders are dirt cheap.
Yeah.... bump for this.
Some UG prices are close to HG..... And some UG claim to be HG lol.
I guess they can only get what people will pay.
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