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sherlock
19-05-2010, 08:50 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any info. on this? I have heard it is great for fat loss, but I haven't heard much else, nor have I been able to find much on the internet.

Thanks

_Ragnar_
19-05-2010, 09:10 PM
a quick google search turned up this

"Adderllin is a synergistic blend of vitamins, herbal extracts and nootropic “smart drugs” that mimic some of the strongest attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) drugs on the market today. The drugs that it emulates are known for their profound effects on energy, focus, and weight loss (as a dietary supplement). Adderllin can help enhance anyone’s lives including students, professionals, and anyone who needs to get that mental performance “edge” on their peers. Now this is all available for an affordable price.

* Energy

Adderllin is packed with tons of energy boosters. With three herbal stimulants and added caffeine it will without a doubt give you that boost of energy that you need at times.
* Focus

Adderllin is made from delicate blend including several “smart drugs” with nootropic effects that suppress attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and increase mental focus giving the user an extra edge to complete tasks.


* Fat Loss

As an attractive byproduct Adderllin’s stimulants also act as appetite suppressants that boost the user’s metabolic rate and and increase body fat loss.


The supplement Adderlin is a unique blend of herbal stimulants, nootropic smart drugs, extracts, and vitamins including Vitamin B3, B12, Guarana, Huperzine, Caffeine and more. These ingredients enhance its ability to assist in the improvement of mental focus, loss of body fat, and boosts in energy.

* Vitamin B3

Is a B vitamin with Nootropic effects. It is also has been noted for its use in people with Alzheimer’s disease.
* Vitamin B12

Is involved in the metabolism of every cell of the body, especially affecting the DNA synthesis and regulation but also fatty acid synthesis and energy production. Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain and nervous system. Vitamin B-12 gives a great natural energy boost.
* Guarana

Guarana is an herb that is rich in caffeine. Research has also shown that guarana may affect how quickly the body perceives itself to be full as well.
* Bitter Orange

Bitter orange is used as a stimulant and appetite suppressant which aids in weight loss. It contains several alkaloids such as synephrine that stimulate the body’s beta-3 receptors. Activating these receptors boosts your metabolic rate and energy levels to help increase fat burning and ultimately body fat loss. It also promotes the release of epinephrine and nor-epinephrine which boost mental energy and focus while indirectly helping body fat loss.
* Yohimbe Bark Extract

It is of the tryptamine chemical class with stimulant and aphrodisiac effects. It is also known for it’s thermogenic effect. Like adderallŽ it is classified as pycho-stimulant that has Nootropic behavior.
* Choline Dihydrogen Citrate

It is a naturally-occuring ammonium salt that is found in the lipids that make up cell membranes -in the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Choline is the chemical precursor or “building block” needed to produce the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, and research suggests that memory, intelligence, and mood are mediated at least in part by acetylcholine metabolism in the brain.
* Acetyl-L-Carnitine

ALCAR has neuroprotective benefits in the treatment of Parkinson’s disease. ALCAR plays many important roles in the body, but the most important one from a fat burning perspective is ALCAR’s role in escorting fatty acids to the cell’s mitochondria where they can be burned as fuel aiding in body fat loss.
* Bacopa Extract

It has been used in India for several thousand years and is considered a “brain tonic” which enhances memory development, learning, and concentration thus fighting attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). The herb shows significant psychotropic action as evidenced by excessive sleep and conformation changes in the brain as well as blood. It is also a potent antioxidant.
* Acetyl-L-Tyrosine

Tyrosine is converted in the body to key biologic compounds. These compounds include epinephrine, dopamine, L-dopa, Co-Q10, and thyroid hormones.
* Caffeine

Caffeine has nootropic effects, inducing positive changes in memory and learning. Both caffeine and naturally occurring caffeine found in guarana called guaranine are found in Adderllin.
* Dimethylaminoethanol

DMAE is related to choline and is a biochemical precursor to the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. Studies have shown an increase in vigilance and alertness, with a positive influence on mood.
* White Willow Bark Extract

White willow bark extract is added because a synergy occurs whenever ingredients are combined and the specific combination of those ingredients provides a greater benefit than the individual benefits that could be realized if each of those ingredients were taken independent of each other. Also known as a natural pain reliever.
* Piperine

Piperine is an extract found from black pepper and is known for it’s increased uptake of nutrients and supplements.
* Vinpocetine

Is an extract found in the periwinkle plant. Vinpocetine is reported to have a cerebral blood-flow enhancing and neuroprotective effects. It is also used as a drug in eastern european countries for the treatment of cerebrovascular disorders and age related memory impairment.
* Huperzine

Is naturally occurring and extracted from the Firmoss plant. Huperzine has been shown to enhance memory and learning performance in clinical trials performed on China.

Adderllin Information

* Nootropic

Are “smart drugs” found in drugs, supplements, nutraceuticals, and functional foods that combat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder by improving mental functions such as cognition, memory, intelligence, motivation, attention, and concentration. Nootropics work by altering the availability of the brain’s supply of neurochemicals including neurotransmitters, enzymes, and hormones. These nootropic “smart drugs” increase blood flow to the brain expanding the oxygen supply, stimulating nerve growth. Adderllin is filled with many nootropics including Niacin, Vitamin B12, Acetyl-l-carnitine, Choline, Bacopa, DMAE, Acetyl-l-tyrosine, Vinpocetine, Huperzine, along with three herbal stimulants. Cognitive function is largely impacted by one’s diet. The nutrients in food can influence our memory, learning, concentration, and decision-making; therefore the lack of them has a negative effect on the brain. So far, the studies have been able to link brain function to vitamin B1 and B12, omega-3, caffeine, antioxidants, protein, and iron. In addition, there is research on certain supplements and whether or not they have any benefit, and how blood glucose levels play an effect on concentration and recall.
Not found in Adderllin, but can also help brain function are Omega-3 fatty acids. It influences both communication between cells and cell function. It appears to makes receptors on the cell membranes that are more sensitive to serotonin, a neurotransmitter, which helps give us a “happy” feeling. Omega-3 has also been linked to helping retain brain function. A study done in Norway proved how omega-3 eaten during pregnancy helped to produce a more intelligent child. Increasing omega-3 in the diet has been shown to lower risk of depression, even better than depression medication. Omega – 3’s are what build cell membranes. Omega-3’s can be found in cold-water fish, such as salmon, as well as almonds, avocadoes, walnuts and flaxseed. Fish oils in particular, are components of nerve cell membranes and myelin, which help to keep blood vessels in the brain healthy. A study on cats demonstrated that fish oil reduced the degree of brain damage experienced in cerebral stroke. Unfortunately today, it is harder to find regular sources of omega-3.
Interestingly enough, diets of prehistoric families included sufficient amounts of omega-3 due to cooking methods and agricultural practices, yet in today’s world such practices are not longer the norm. Traditional sources of omega-3 could be found richly in cattle, since they used to graze on grass, which contains omega-3, but today they are mostly fed grain, which does not contain omega-3’s. Today’s society gets a bit too much omega-6, and less of omega-3, both of which are unsaturated fats, known as “good fats”.
While unsaturated fats, such as omega-3 fat, are known to be beneficial to the brain, saturated fats, are not. Saturated fat is strongly linked to causing depression, manic depression and schizoaffective disorder, in addition to hostility and aggression. Studies on patients have showed that lowering levels of triglycerides help to alleviate depression and improve scores on dementia screening tests in the elderly.One cause for this is due to the fact that high levels of triglycerides increase blood sluggishness, so it becomes harder for the blood to transport sufficient amounts of oxygen to brain cells. Without oxygen in the brain, mini brain lesions and blood clots can form. Memory tests have also been done on rats that were fed high saturated fat diets and found those with the least amount of saturated and total fat to have performed better in the memory tests. A study done on infant rhesus monkeys also concurred with these results when they fed each monkey diets with adequate amounts of fat, but differed in the types of fats. The ones with more saturated fats grew well, but their visual development was impaired and they kept pacing and forth, as if they had a neurological defect, while the ones with unsaturated fats grew normally. Although, keep in mind, not all omega-3’s are made the same. Long-chain omega-3’s appear to be more favorable in the brain, compared to the medium lengths, which are found in plants. Omega-3 clearly has a huge impact on brain development, but there are also ways to tweak brain function for periods of time.
* Thermogenic

Adderllin contains potent thermogenics that help the body achieve thermogenesis. Thermogenesis is the process of heat production in an organism which is achieved through metabolic stimulation found in the synergistic blend of supplements. The increased heat leads to the loss in fatty deposits in the body. By increasing the body’s metabolism, it thereby increases the core temperature of a person which in turn leads to the body fat loss that we seek. You can actually “feel” the thermogenic component of Adderllin. Soon after taking it you will have a warm feeling throughout your body.
Along with Adderllin I suggest running a ketogenic diet. The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that is effective at provoking body fat loss. The diet mimics aspects of starvation by forcing the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in fuelling brain function. However, if there is very little carbohydrate in the diet, the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies.
The diet provides just enough protein for body growth and repair, and sufficient calories to maintain the correct weight for age and height. The classic ketogenic diet contains a 4:1 ratio by weight of fat to combined protein and carbohydrate. This is achieved by excluding high-carbohydrate foods such as starchy fruits and vegetables, bread, pasta, grains and sugar, while increasing the consumption of foods that are high in essential fats.
* Energy

Adderllin is also packed with tons of energy boosters. With three herbal stimulants and added caffeine it will without a doubt give you that boost of energy that you need at times.
Other supplements such as Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Acetyl-L-Tyrosine which potentiates the effects of these energy boosters making them even stronger. The piperine added in this supplement helps increase the intake of all the ingredients making them more bioavailable. This leads to tremendous amounts of energy that you will never feel in any other supplement you have ever taken.
One of the best things you can do to improve your energy level is to sleep well at night. Unfortunately, most of us tend to allow other activities and commitments to cut into our sleep time, leaving us tired during the day. There are several simple changes you can make in your life to avoid insomnia and improve the quality of your sleep. Create a daily routine, go to bed earlier, and excersize as much as possible. Adderllin is great to take to burn the midnight oil, but refrain from taking it if you need to wake up early the next day. Rather get your rest and take it upon waking.


Directions: As a dietary supplement, take two tablets per serving. To assess your individual sensitivity to stimulants start with one capsule daily. Be sure to read all warnings and only use as directed.
WARNING: KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Consult your physician before using this dietary supplement. Do not use this product if you are at risk or are being treated for high blood pressure, heart, kidney, thyroid, or psychiatric disease, difficulty in urinating, prostate enlargement, anxiety, depression, seizure disorder, or stroke. Consult your healthcare professional before use if you are taking any prescription drugs. Consult your healthcare practioner before beginning any supplement program.
*These statements have not been evaluated by the food and drug administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

*AdderallŽ is a registered trademark of Shire Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and neither ADDERLLIN nor ADDERLLIN LLC are affiliated in any way with Shire or AdderallŽ products.
Statements contained herein have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
Individual results may vary."

Ritch
19-05-2010, 10:08 PM
I use everything in that formula except for bitter orange, bacopa extract, huperzine (it`s been shown to deplete acetylcholine receptors), Choline Dihydrogen Citrate ( but I do have choline not sure what this stuff is) and acetly l tyrosine.

My thoughts on this supp. You don`t need acetyl l tyrosine when l-tyrosine works perfectly well and can be bought for very cheap in bulk. Plus the acetyl version way more expensive.

DMAE is good stuff. A nootropic that provides you with clear thinking. Stacks very well with l-tyrosine

vinpocetine: works very well at increasing blood circulation in the brain. Also makes the other nootropics stronger. Take with food however.

Before I forget and is my main reason against these kind of supps... It`s that some of the ingredients are best taken empty stomach while others like vinpocetine is best taken with food. There`s also lot`s of research that proves this.

I`m sure piperine adds to the effectiveness but I have never tried it, but it seems to be a staple in many products today, I`d say good move here.

yohimbe is hit or miss with some people making them nervous and axious.

It`s a bit of a kitchen sink supplement and if it works for you great, but if it dosen`t it would be hard to know which ingredient is throwing you off. I take alot of these substances but started off with each one on it`s own, finding my sweet spot then adding others to do the same with them. Also some are fat burning ingredients while other are brain boosters, it`s just not a supp you could take without it losing it`s effectiveness so in the long run you`d be using ingredients that are no longer being effective to reap the benefits of others that are...

I really feel nootropics can help many people here on this site, there`s little talk of them, but feel they are worth expirementing with and can be bought for cheap when purchased in bulk.

t-nation is on version 3.0 of the nootropics topic and I`ve learned alot on them from there. There is also a forum that discusses these substances with people who are into them like some are into steroids here. Check out imminst.org.

jshort
28-05-2010, 01:28 AM
For a good nootropic product, I'd try GetSmart from the following online store which specializes in nootropics only: smart-drugs.net/brain.html

If your looking for a supplement that gives you more of a wired feeling, Jack3d from UPS labs is very popular (possibly due to its DMAA content).

If Jack3d is too strong, I'd try a product called MuscleSpeed. Its not as popular, but out of the 40 or so reviews its received at BB.com, its averaged at 9.5/10 (which is very high compared to other products).

juced_porkchop
30-05-2010, 08:30 PM
I use E-911 for the extra kick i need from time to time . but have a sample of this stuff to try.
just havent gotten around to using it yet. since im so used ot taking the e-911.
but ill report on it when i use it.

Ritch
30-05-2010, 09:33 PM
For a good nootropic product, I'd try GetSmart from the following online store which specializes in nootropics only: smart-drugs.net/brain.html

If your looking for a supplement that gives you more of a wired feeling, Jack3d from UPS labs is very popular (possibly due to its DMAA content).

If Jack3d is too strong, I'd try a product called MuscleSpeed. Its not as popular, but out of the 40 or so reviews its received at BB.com, its averaged at 9.5/10 (which is very high compared to other products).

Here`s the profile of get smart:

ingredients in 2 capsulesAniracetam 500 mg more potent analog of piracetam
Centrophenoxine 300 mg raises brain acetylcholine levels
Pyritinol 300 mg improves memory, concentration
Picamilon 100 mg increases circulation to the brain
Piracetam 100 mg increases communication between the 2 brain hemispheres
Sulbutiamine 100 mg form of Vit B1 that improves memory
Vinpocetine 10 mg dilates blood vessels in the brain

Oxiracetam 10 mg more potent analog of piracetam
Idebenone 10 mg increases nerve growth factor (NGF) in the brain
Galantamine 300 mcg prevents build up of beta amyloid plaque in the brain
Huperzine A 100 mcg extends the life of acetylcholine in the brain


Some very good ingredients here. But if one was to take 2 doses a day, the vinpocetine may not agree with everyone. The oxiracetam is very underdosed, like not even worth putting in, the lowest effective dose I`ve read of is 200mg and most use 500mg for the given effect. It`s also know as a nootropic used soley to help when cramming for an exam. You retain info very well using it. I`ve tried it when at work to see if it helps with focus. There is a bit of a speedy effect, but you adapt quickly to it. Many report the need to take a nap after the effect wears off as your brain is working big time when using it.

The aniracetam dose is perfect: 500mg

Piracetam is ****ing useless the weakest of all nootropics. I nearly went through a kilo of the stuff and can`t say it did shit for me. 100mg won`t to **** all to anybody, trust me.

But sulbutiamine is one hell of a booster. This stuff delivers a big kick. Another supp though I`d use 1-2 times a week for continous desired effects.

Centrophenoxine: This stuff is interesting. Touted as clearing up the "cob webs" left in the brain in people who`s done lot`s of recreational drugs. I forget about the proper dosing, will look it up. I think it was around a gram or so.

Some other stuff I`ve like Idebenone is underdosed I suspect as the caps sole individually come in 180mg caps. Galantamine comes in 5mg caps also and here they`re only putting in 300 mcg. Not sure about that...

However the price of this stuff is decent. A one month supply of 2 caps a day, twice a day would cost you about $60. Still way less than most people spend on buying coffee. I can also imagine there`s a synergistic effect with all the ingredients together.

Oh yeah, there`s a lot of contraversy about huperzine. I`d do some research on this before using it. And if somebody were to use 2 doses a day you`re getting 200mcg of the stuff. Definetly the upper limits of how much you should be using and is the main reason why I would be hesitant to buy this product. However the said negative effects of huperzine as I posted above are negated by the Centrophenoxine.

Picamilon and Pyritinol I have not read any feedback on. I imagine it`s to level off the stim effects some of these ingredients can have.

Still it`s a very advanced product especially if you`ve never used any of them. You won`t know which ones producing their effects.

jshort
31-05-2010, 12:15 AM
I've actually used that product myself. In my opinion it takes awhile to take effect. They should've added a valuable choline source like Alpha GPC though.

The pyritinol is there to improve one's reaction time (contrary to whats said on they're website, pyritinol doesn't improve memory).

Picamilon is a mood enhancer.

As none of the ingredients effect the CNS, none of them are stimulants. As such you can get some synergy just by combining it with caffeine.

As you've mentioned, much of the ingredients are under dosed. They're there as label dressing.

Nordic Enhancer
19-10-2010, 06:20 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any info. on this? I have heard it is great for fat loss, but I haven't heard much else, nor have I been able to find much on the internet.

Thanks

anecdotal :

friends have used it, and combined with coffee one of them said it was like snorting jet fuel, seemed to work for him...

energy wise.

M-Rods
14-01-2011, 04:15 AM
Ive used it on and off, start with 1 to see your tolerance, a nice increase in energy and alertness, starts to fade about 3-4 hrs later, try to leave at least that long before bed

Estese
29-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Where do you guys get all this nootropic stuff from? I found a lot of it on amazon.com but it's all from separate vendors, and they want an arm and a leg for shipping charges. Is there a large site somewhere where you can purchase all this stuff with a single shipping charge?

juced_porkchop
31-01-2011, 03:37 PM
google NTBM.......

juced_porkchop
31-01-2011, 03:38 PM
or you can just pick up soem E-911 its also very nice ;-)

Gawd
02-02-2011, 03:15 AM
Where do you guys get all this nootropic stuff from? I found a lot of it on amazon.com but it's all from separate vendors, and they want an arm and a leg for shipping charges. Is there a large site somewhere where you can purchase all this stuff with a single shipping charge?

You can pick up Adderlin from CBB's newest sponsor bro. ;)
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