regarding deadlifts...really good for back day?

[pblade]

Now I have actually been contemplating whether I should incorporate deadlifts or not for the past 2 weeks, and think it's enough thinking and do them in my upcoming back day. However the reason I didn't do them much lately, because I've been hearing much about people saying it will target your legs a lot; therefore if my leg day is coming up in the next 3 days would that be fine?

In general, are deadlifts great for working out your back on back day? I hear there are many bodyparts being stimulated during a deadlift, what are they. abs, and traps?

What are your reviews on deadlifts? big improvements ever since incorporating them?

[liquidfire]

If you're not deadlifting you're wasting your time.

Deads will hammer your hamstrings, glutes, low back, mid back, upper back, traps, biceps, forearms and will make your balls bigger.

I deadlift 2x a week and squat 3x a week... I'm sure you'll be fine with a 3 day spread between your deadlift and squat days.

[519Muscle]

deadlifts are the king for back workouts, their more benefical then any other back workout, would you do chest without bench pressing? or would u do legs without squatting? same goes for back.

[tiramisu]

While there's certainly something to be said for the rowing/chins/pulling stuff picking heavy shit off the ground seems pretty basic to a strong back.

[bigtavi8]

Deadlifts are king. Now as a BB i wouldnt do them heavy ass 3 times a week but id say 95% back days offseason or precontest (do whatever the heaviest weight i can handle at the time considering the situation) i throroughly warm up and do my deads. Were not talking going stupid smashing up and down 4 plates a side. I prefer double overhand grip wider than shoulder with 4 sets with 1 warm up. Usually work my way up to about 305 for 8. I dont find doing 5 plates a side with 80% form to be as efffective so i do what works to improve my phsique. At the end of the day its about how you look not who you out dead in the gym. Stay strict and do not get injured. Slow steady increases in resistance.

[bigtavi8]

Deadlifts are king. Now as a BB i wouldnt do them heavy ass 3 times a week but id say 95% back days offseason or precontest (do whatever the heaviest weight i can handle at the time considering the situation) i throroughly warm up and do my deads. Were not talking going stupid smashing up and down 4 plates a side. I prefer double overhand grip wider than shoulder with 4 sets with 1 warm up. Usually work my way up to about 305 for 8. I dont find doing 5 plates a side with 80% form to be as efffective so i do what works to improve my phsique. At the end of the day its about how you look not who you out dead in the gym. Stay strict and do not get injured. Slow steady increases in resistance.

What i do find is my lower back and total body density increase but not excellent for width of the back and lats.

[tiramisu]

I do max effort deads once every 3 weeks, in the in between weeks I do deficit deads for speed and t-bar rows rest paused. For width I do chins, pull-ups and rack chins.

[bigtavi8]

Great call on your suggestions for width, Tiramisu. back width at one time was my biggest lagging area and i did exactly those exercises you mentioned but x3 on the wide grip chins and its been insane...

[Aaron_37]

I love deadlifts to pieces. They've done wonders for my entire body's physique as well as my posture. I had a notoriously weak grip when I started doing them last September. Back then, I was able to pull 185x8 and 225x2 with questionable form. Last week I pulled 405x1 unstrapped and 435x1 strapped. Another few weeks and my grip should be caught up to my lift.

No exercise can make you feel as badass as a solid deadlift. Done properly, the risk of injury is much lower than a squat in my opinion because of the ability to drop the weight. It also really assisted my posterior chain flexibility as well.

I've found similar results to BigTavi8 in as far as total body density and strength in the lower back. My "width" and upper back haven't changed all that much, but there's definitely a significantly thicker erector spinae now.

Whatever truth there is to doing compound lifts and releasing extra growth hormone is most valid when you're doing deadlifts. They do work your legs to some extent, especially if you are a taller lifter as I am. However, I would hesitate to put them on any other day than back day. The work done to your entire upper body is easy to recover from quickly, and medium for the lower body.

[tiramisu]

I think one of the mistakes novice bodybuilders make is thinking that they should be doing "bodybuilding" exercises.

I'm of the opinion most of us need to get our bench/squat/dead into the 4/5/6 range before fussing with isolation exercises. Till then the big compounds provide the most bang for the buck both for strength and hypertrophy.

I'm happy no one shares my opinion as I can always get a spot in the rack.

[Aaron_37]

I'm of the opinion most of us need to get our bench/squat/dead into the 4/5/6 range before fussing with isolation exercises. Till then the big compounds provide the most bang for the buck both for strength and hypertrophy.

I'm happy no one shares my opinion as I can always get a spot in the rack.

Same here! :yeah

[Big D]

what are deadlifts ?

[tiramisu]

what are deadlifts ?

They're kind of like a power clean without the ooompf at the end.

[Big D]

They're kind of like a power clean without the ooompf at the end.

com'on T, I was kidding :)

and I love deads, I always do them first thang on back day.

[steve_d]

it's funny how many people agree that deadlifts are crucial (bodybuilders included), yet in my gym I am one of the few guys that actually do them. I see other guys doing them once in a great while, but none of the guys who I would expect to see doing them are actually doing them...

To be more specific, there are a few people in my gym who at least have competed in bodybuilding and did ok, but none do deadlifts. I think I am the only one. I've found this to be true for basically every gym i've trained at ever. Its the least done exercise by anyone who doesn't compete in powerlifting. The funny part, is I could say the same for squatting...Another exercise that it seems powerlifters seem to be about the only one doing.

Why does it seem bodybuilders think bench press, squats , and deadlifts are reserved for powerlifters?

[Aaron_37]

Bench Press and Squats don't seem to be powerlifting in my gym. Full Bench Press and Full Squats are reserved for powerlifters though. Range of motion is a HUGE issue at my university's gym on every lift known to man.

[tiramisu]

.. getting a little off topic but from the amateur pics I've looked at most "body builders" are better at dieting than body building at this level and some not even that.

I still haven't figured out how 200 pounds is a heavy weight in body building. Unless you're 5' 6" if you aren't 200 pounds you still aren't an adult male IMHO. As a "body builder" 200 @ 4-6% should be a light weight.

Tonight I'm going to dedicate my new deadlift PR to this thread.

[natenator]

.. getting a little off topic but from the amateur pics I've looked at most "body builders" are better at dieting than body building at this level and some not even that.

I still haven't figured out how 200 pounds is a heavy weight in body building. Unless you're 5' 6" if you aren't 200 pounds you still aren't an adult male IMHO. As a "body builder" 200 @ 4-6% should be a light weight.

Tonight I'm going to dedicate my new deadlift PR to this thread.

So you're saying he isn't a bodybuilder?

[tiramisu]

Is he 5' 6" ?

[natenator]

Is he 5' 6" ?
5'7 and 178 in that pic.

[tiramisu]

Midgets are allowed to be 20 pounds underweight.

[natenator]

Midgets are allowed to be 20 pounds underweight.
:yeah

[steve_d]

.. getting a little off topic but from the amateur pics I've looked at most "body builders" are better at dieting than body building at this level and some not even that.

I still haven't figured out how 200 pounds is a heavy weight in body building. Unless you're 5' 6" if you aren't 200 pounds you still aren't an adult male IMHO. As a "body builder" 200 @ 4-6% should be a light weight.

Tonight I'm going to dedicate my new deadlift PR to this thread.

that's sort of ridiculous to me...unless you're speaking top level IFBB pros, then sure, you should weigh 200+ no matter what you're height. But there are some really good bodybuilders at under 200 pounds. Most people would say I have great size, and I'll be coming in at 165 at 5'6.

[Aaron_37]

Tonight I'm going to dedicate my new deadlift PR to this thread.

I just did the very same thing... 445 strapped :)

[tiramisu]

I'm surrounded by illiterate midgets. I missed 465 tonight and had to make up for it with volume. You damn midgets distracted me with your singing and dancing.

[Big D]

I dont want to be a body builder nor a power lifter, I do this for fun..

505 x 4 tonight strapped....would like to do 600 soon..

[gregdoucette]

Just stop all the nonsence and deadlift everyone.

[Aaron_37]

I dont want to be a body builder nor a power lifter, I do this for fun..

505 x 4 tonight strapped....would like to do 600 soon..

Impressive! That's a huge lift.