View Full Version : HCG and Aromasin Necessary?
Big J
18-04-2010, 06:47 PM
Is hcg and aromasin necessary for pct for a test e 500mg cycle or is running nova 40/40/20/20/20 enough. I have people telling me that I need to take all this stuff.
JifeLacket
18-04-2010, 06:56 PM
For anything over 8-10 weeks the HCG will help, but is not totally necessary for test only at that duration. If you use it, use it starting week 3-4 throughout the cycle if anything..
Aromasin in low dose again may not hurt but i don't think its necessary... do NOT just go popping anti-e's like candy...
Big J
18-04-2010, 07:01 PM
How long would you run the hcg for if you started at week 3-4, week 12? Would you be using 500iu.
i wouldnt use it until after your last shot of test...then run it eod @ 500iu for 2 weeks and then start your nolva.....
bigtavi8
18-04-2010, 08:46 PM
im young and recover easily but a basic Test e cycle i found nolva 40/40/20/20/20 did the trick for me and got the test back up and kicking. But if i do a cycle more supressive (test+tren, etc) then i would add the hcg. Its never a bad thing to add hcg but i didnt find it neccesary for ME. Everyones endocrine system is differnt and ppl recover at differnt rates depending on many variables.
jack_krauser
18-04-2010, 09:06 PM
im young and recover easily but a basic Test e cycle i found nolva 40/40/20/20/20 did the trick for me and got the test back up and kicking.
^this
JifeLacket
18-04-2010, 09:14 PM
I would just keep it simple and use nolva like above ^^
250-500iu 2 time a week or E3D is probably all you would need for this cycle..
bigtavi8
18-04-2010, 09:16 PM
I feel like it was reckless advice to post that and to the OP dont take this as the law on pct. Everyone wants to be safe and recover effectively but with such a moderate cycle i think you will find nolva to do the trick.
JifeLacket
18-04-2010, 09:19 PM
Never said my post was the law! Did i not say nolva only would be fine two times already?
bigtavi8
18-04-2010, 09:26 PM
Sorry man you got me wrong i agree that post was in regards to me reminding everyone that nolva only worked for me specificly and not everyone will get away with it. Your absolutly right and ill stop beating the shit out of the same point here. IM bored and dieting i think my mind is at 20%. hahaha
JifeLacket
18-04-2010, 09:29 PM
So i think what your saying is nolva only should do the trick? hahaha
No worries dude, dieting sucks! Good luck..
bigtavi8
18-04-2010, 09:31 PM
hahah im an idiot i QUIT trying to make intelligent post. I failed in this thread.:puff I should eat some carbs and smarten the f&ck up......
Big J
18-04-2010, 09:32 PM
Is using hcg more beneficial to use on cycle than between your last shot and pct?
JifeLacket
18-04-2010, 10:46 PM
Personal preference really, don't make it too complicated, do one or the other, stick to the plan and the results should be very similar.
Big J
19-04-2010, 11:30 AM
Ok thanks guys I think I am going to run some hcg just to make sure that I recover quick.
Avitoholis
19-04-2010, 05:11 PM
To be safe, run the HCG during the cycle and stop before you begin PCT. If you start the HCG after your last shot of Test then you will have to use higher dosages. It is smarter IMO to take smaller dosages over a slightly longer period and, if possible, avoid testicular atrophy altogether.
Big J
20-04-2010, 12:55 AM
^^How small of a dose could you use?
revolution187
20-04-2010, 05:39 AM
im gonna be starting hcg pretty quick here, im gonna do 250iu on teus/thurs.
PS if anyone sees a prob with im doing please say so now i will be starting this regimen on week 3-8 take 2 weeks off and do 10-15 of a 16 weeker, im using bold and long acting esters
Avitoholis
20-04-2010, 08:13 AM
500iu per week divided into two dosages should be fine. You may even be able to get away with slightly less but I'm sure most people would recommend 500iu per week.
revolution187
20-04-2010, 04:12 PM
thanks avitoholis
jacked_to_the_nine
03-05-2010, 10:29 PM
Is hcg and aromasin necessary for pct for a test e 500mg cycle or is running nova 40/40/20/20/20 enough. I have people telling me that I need to take all this stuff.
i ran like a 30 weeker man of test prop mixed with EQ and random anavar, and i have been clean for the last 4 weeks and i still wake up with boners thank god... i took 3-4 week breaks twice in random spots of the cycle and at one point i was running just streight test prop with nothing else... i only use 10mg of nolva in the morning and 10mg at night, and everything seems ok, but i have to say, that my nuts seem smaller, and i would deffinetly use HCG next time through out the whole cyle for sure... you maybe alble to get away with it once or twice for short cycles, but anything longer then 12 weeks could possibly leave with baby balls!
Solo59
06-05-2010, 01:26 PM
Personal preference really, don't make it too complicated, do one or the other, stick to the plan and the results should be very similar.
I'd say do both. On cycle, use 250 iu 2x/wk, and after your last inject, use 500 iu each day for 10 days (one 5000 iu bottle). This way the boys will be fat & ready and you will have a libido ride to remember when you run that 10 days.
Solo
mo_sco
14-05-2010, 08:08 AM
Yeah...I left this too late and my nuts shrunk for the first time...just starting to come back a bit now...:(
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