Dogcrapp Training

[btufts]

Hey guys... so this is all I've been hearing about lately and it sounds like a good program with some great theories... basic but knowledgeable. More weight more muscle and stretching fascia tissue for growth after each bodypart.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_24/ai_n26979199/?tag=content;col1

take a look at the article if you havn't heard of it. If you've tried the program and want to give some insight that would be helpful! I'm going to be doing this in my off season to hopefully put on about 30 pounds.

Write your thoughts and rant all you want!

B

[ironwill]

Great program if you are doing DC....Im a firm believer in it...Ive written lots about it...
I was trained by him for quite a long time and now hes my sponsor!!!

[evoke]

DC worked for me as well.

[btufts]

Ahhh yes thats right Dante is the owner of Trueprotein isn't he?? I'm really excited to start this today. My goal is to put on 30 pounds by August LEAN... I'll be doing this program and yoga... i'm a firm believer is stretching fascia tissue will lead to GROWTH!

keep leaving your thoughts guys! experiences, opinions, lets hear em!

[natenator]

Ahhh yes thats right Dante is the owner of Trueprotein isn't he?? I'm really excited to start this today. My goal is to put on 30 pounds by August LEAN... I'll be doing this program and yoga... i'm a firm believer is stretching fascia tissue will lead to GROWTH!

keep leaving your thoughts guys! experiences, opinions, lets hear em!
30lbs?

[ironwill]

^^^^ ditto, dont set yourself up for defeat bro...I know you feel stoked right now, but you are a bit delusional!!!lol maybe its the carb haze!!!

[btufts]

haha its my goal before i start cutting down for next years contest

[Praetorian]

DC is a good program for more experienced lifters. The reason DC works is that it is based on HIT principles which can be utilized by more experienced lifter becuase they have the ability to activate more fibres based on training experience and focus. Beginning to intermediate lifters will generally have less activation and thus lower intensity. Do not misinterpret this statement as many do...percieved intensity may be high...but actual activation is still low. It takes time, practise, repitition, and muscle mass to make DC the most effective. Younger less experienced lifters will do much better on a volume approach....theyneed more time under the bar...their recovery is much faster as their intensity (overall activation) is lower.
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[btufts]

well what do ya think p, give it a shot for a 6 weeks or so to try to get my strength up? its definately hard to tell what your max is if you don't really know when your body is completely taxed. i mean i started today, wrote everything down. which is something i didnt do last year. its definately helped keeping organized and keeping track of progress as the prep has taught me.

[Praetorian]

well what do ya think p, give it a shot for a 6 weeks or so to try to get my strength up? its definately hard to tell what your max is if you don't really know when your body is completely taxed. i mean i started today, wrote everything down. which is something i didnt do last year. its definately helped keeping organized and keeping track of progress as the prep has taught me.

Your body at the moment is in a very taxed state from your prep as well you do not have the leverage from water etc. Plus you will be doing PCT etc...not the best time to max out on anything(plus your CNS is overly stressed as well)....that will surely lead to injury. Gradually let the body normalize with the additional carbs and let your strength come back slowly as it will. Once youve recovered and are ready to run a gaining program you can look at different avenues for that. Now enjoy your summer, get healthy and normalize the body...dont try to make any super gains at the moment...just the reintroduction of carbs etc will keep you gaining for the next 5-6 weeks alone.
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[btufts]

Your body at the moment is in a very taxed state from your prep as well you do not have the leverage from water etc. Plus you will be doing PCT etc...not the best time to max out on anything(plus your CNS is overly stressed as well)....that will surely lead to injury. Gradually let the body normalize with the additional carbs and let your strength come back slowly as it will. Once youve recovered and are ready to run a gaining program you can look at different avenues for that. Now enjoy your summer, get healthy and normalize the body...dont try to make any super gains at the moment...just the reintroduction of carbs etc will keep you gaining for the next 5-6 weeks alone.
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I definately love the carbs thats for sure, strength has come back. i just find it hard not to go to the gym and lift intensely... definately an ego thing haha

[btufts]

ps been experiencing a lot of lower back tension and pain... had to leave the brick laying job, really don't want to work in any really laborous positions right now. I was doing heavy squats today aswell and i could feel a lot of tension in my lower back... eek

[Praetorian]

You should actually take an entire week off the gym to relax and rest.
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[btufts]

i probably should its just so hard to stay away haha that place is like a drug.

[ironwill]

lookn thick in your avi bro!!!

[ironwill]

DC is a good program for more experienced lifters. The reason DC works is that it is based on HIT principles which can be utilized by more experienced lifter becuase they have the ability to activate more fibres based on training experience and focus. Beginning to intermediate lifters will generally have less activation and thus lower intensity. Do not misinterpret this statement as many do...percieved intensity may be high...but actual activation is still low. It takes time, practise, repitition, and muscle mass to make DC the most effective. Younger less experienced lifters will do much better on a volume approach....theyneed more time under the bar...their recovery is much faster as their intensity (overall activation) is lower.
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Very true statement here...It is tough, but intensity is very much the key....It took me awhile to get good at it, and when i did, it kicked my butt.....By Friday when workouts are done, you can barely get off the couch .....I dont know you as a trainee, but it appears you may have the drive to get good at this type of training...It is hard and you have to give full effort consistently...If you are the type that has good days and bad days in the gym i would use a different method of trng until you are consistent good days , for the most part....
6 weeks is not a long enough trial for this method, by 6 weeks you will just be getting good at it and ready for a wee cruise, then the second and third blast you will be into it...!!!

[Danger]

^^^ Agreed takes awhile to get used to the idea of doing less to get more but once you can generate the intensity while still using strict form it really works wonders.

I think the biggest issue is being able to let go of your ego enough to use the CORRECT weight for the exercise you are doing.

[btufts]

I don't have good days or bad days, everyday at the gym there is no one more rep could have been done, there is no thinking about what I'm doing, just grinding every single rep out on every single set until there is no more. That's where the rest/pauses kicked in today and they kicked my ass!!! I had to come home and sleep for a couple hours after that workout. I understood how intensity is key here or else how will you really see if your getting stronger if you don't give it your all every single day?! Ps thanks for the avi compliment haha it's one from the photoshoot I did 1 week out. :)

[JacktheThriller]

dont think you need the advanced lifting style like dc, i dont know if your natty or not but 30 pounds is incredible realistic for lean. they say 10 pds a year is really good for muscle gains, that would mean you dont even change a pound from month to month. probably looking at around 25 pds of fat on that 30 pds. your really young still just focus on getting your strength up 8-10 reps for most exercises, consistant small weekly gains in lifting poundages not your body poundages, if you keep getting bigger who cares if you have gained in bodyweight, if you could look like at 200 pounder at 170 you would absolutely destroy

[natenator]

dont think you need the advanced lifting style like dc, i dont know if your natty or not but 30 pounds is incredible realistic for lean. they say 10 pds a year is really good for muscle gains, that would mean you dont even change a pound from month to month. probably looking at around 25 pds of fat on that 30 pds. your really young still just focus on getting your strength up 8-10 reps for most exercises, consistant small weekly gains in lifting poundages not your body poundages, if you keep getting bigger who cares if you have gained in bodyweight, if you could look like at 200 pounder at 170 you would absolutely destroy
he benches 405 and squats 495.

I'd say his strength is pretty good.

[JacktheThriller]

I don't have good days or bad days, everyday at the gym there is no one more rep could have been done, there is no thinking about what I'm doing, just grinding every single rep out on every single set until there is no more. That's where the rest/pauses kicked in today and they kicked my ass!!! I had to come home and sleep for a couple hours after that workout. I understood how intensity is key here or else how will you really see if your getting stronger if you don't give it your all every single day?! Ps thanks for the avi compliment haha it's one from the photoshoot I did 1 week out. :)

quite niave of you

powerlifting is based of cycling intensity, you cant go 100% all the time its simply not possible for you body to keep up with all that constant demand. Your body will shut down, even get you sick to take a break from the intesity.

starting the first week of a routine at 70% of max works, gives your body a break to build up

i garuntee you would gain more if you started at 70% of max and incrementing 5 pounds on your squat weekly, rather than max out everytime, its simply too taxing on the body

[O-Train]

he benches 405 and squats 495.

I'd say his strength is pretty good.

So the videos are up already then? I must have missed it. :D

DC is a great program but it won't work for everyone and it won't work all the time. You need loads of food and lots of sleep every night. Otherwise you may burnout fairly quick. Praetorian is giving good advice when he says to take some time off. I just took a whole month off the gym and some nagging injuries have gotten better and strength is basically right where I left off.

[btufts]

So the videos are up already then? I must have missed it. :D

DC is a great program but it won't work for everyone and it won't work all the time. You need loads of food and lots of sleep every night. Otherwise you may burnout fairly quick. Praetorian is giving good advice when he says to take some time off. I just took a whole month off the gym and some nagging injuries have gotten better and strength is basically right where I left off.

Haha they're coming, i just need to find a cam for a day. just coming out from contest i think my body needs a rest for sure and my CNS is more than likely tapped out from all the training and dietting pre contest..

[btufts]

quite niave of you

powerlifting is based of cycling intensity, you cant go 100% all the time its simply not possible for you body to keep up with all that constant demand. Your body will shut down, even get you sick to take a break from the intesity.

starting the first week of a routine at 70% of max works, gives your body a break to build up

i garuntee you would gain more if you started at 70% of max and incrementing 5 pounds on your squat weekly, rather than max out everytime, its simply too taxing on the body


I think that our bodies cycle the amount of intensity you bring to the gym either way, hence having good days/ bad days... or like you said even get sick or sluggish during the day. I'm still very young when it comes to bbing/ plifting and I need to learn more about intensity which will come in time. As of right now i'm just getting used to my body losing definition which is hard enough on the psyci so its even harder to stay away from the gym.

[JacktheThriller]

just **** a hell of lot of girls for a couple of weeks that should occupy you lol videos sound crazy dude. most digital cameras and phone have a video mode in case u forgot no need for HD quality though a 495 squat is extremely erotic lol

[Praetorian]

I think that our bodies cycle the amount of intensity you bring to the gym either way, hence having good days/ bad days... or like you said even get sick or sluggish during the day. I'm still very young when it comes to bbing/ plifting and I need to learn more about intensity which will come in time. As of right now i'm just getting used to my body losing definition which is hard enough on the psyci so its even harder to stay away from the gym.

Just an FYI...not directed at btufts but people in general.
Young guys tend to learn the hard way...through injuries, limited gains, CNS fatigue etc...then they realize that there is a difference between training hard and training smart. There are times to push and times to rest...being able to understand and utilize this will give you dramatically better gains and reduce the risk of injury. Young guys can get away with making alot of mistakes because their focus and intensity level is far from advanced...a seasoned veteran PL or BB would risk severe injury if they did the same thing. The more advanced an athlete the less volume he requires because he is maximizing neurotransmitter usage...once they are depleted no more muscular gains or strength gains will occur until they are replenished. Periodization is the key to staying fresh, injury free, and to constantly be making gains....balls to the wall every day leads to trouble.

Just to answer btufts implied question...our bodies dont cycle intensity...our brain does...neurotransmitters are key.
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[St]

Just an FYI...not directed at btufts but people in general.
Young guys tend to learn the hard way...through injuries, limited gains, CNS fatigue etc...then they realize that there is a difference between training hard and training smart. There are times to push and times to rest...being able to understand and utilize this will give you dramatically better gains and reduce the risk of injury. Young guys can get away with making alot of mistakes because their focus and intensity level is far from advanced...a seasoned veteran PL or BB would risk severe injury if they did the same thing. The more advanced an athlete the less volume he requires because he is maximizing neurotransmitter usage...once they are depleted no more muscular gains or strength gains will occur until they are replenished. Periodization is the key to staying fresh, injury free, and to constantly be making gains....balls to the wall every day leads to trouble.

Just to answer btufts implied question...our bodies dont cycle intensity...our brain does...neurotransmitters are key.
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Perfect info,the nervous system..ie Neruotransmitters.
I Did all what you said in my early years of training,and Balls to the walls,not good,you Burn out,and so much more.

[btufts]

just **** a hell of lot of girls for a couple of weeks that should occupy you lol videos sound crazy dude. most digital cameras and phone have a video mode in case u forgot no need for HD quality though a 495 squat is extremely erotic lol

hahaha thats been my cardio for the past couple weeks already!! ;) and iphone doesn't have video!

[ironwill]

So the videos are up already then? I must have missed it. :D

DC is a great program but it won't work for everyone and it won't work all the time. .

I disagree bro...It can and will work for anyone that is advanced enough and cycles the program as it is meant to be...It is the offcut DC programs flying around that are not going to work as well...DC is cycled trng.. As i said before, you have to be on point, not up and down...IE, good food intake, good rest and cycling downtimes for trng when reqd....

[btufts]

I disagree bro...It can and will work for anyone that is advanced enough and cycles the program as it is meant to be...It is the offcut DC programs flying around that are not going to work as well...DC is cycled trng.. As i said before, you have to be on point, not up and down...IE, good food intake, good rest and cycling downtimes for trng when reqd....

Probably not the best thing to do while just introducing carbs again. I like, however how carbs are revolved around workout time, berardi preaches that as well and the rest of the day is protein/fat. I've found my body is very carb sensitive? I believe that's right. My body bloats a LOT from carbs

[Praetorian]

Probably not the best thing to do while just introducing carbs again. I like, however how carbs are revolved around workout time, berardi preaches that as well and the rest of the day is protein/fat. I've found my body is very carb sensitive? I believe that's right. My body bloats a LOT from carbs

Take time off to recover...slowly introduce carbs....around training is ideal. Run PCT and enjoy the next month or two being lean....keep training volume moderate and dont push the intensity envelope...dont try to rush the gains...let them come slowly and be lean mass not unwanted BF or water.
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[ironwill]

Probably not the best thing to do while just introducing carbs again. I like, however how carbs are revolved around workout time, berardi preaches that as well and the rest of the day is protein/fat. I've found my body is very carb sensitive? I believe that's right. My body bloats a LOT from carbs

Im the same way with Carbs.....big time...I did dc through my contest prep....and the carbs are a secondary amnt of calories, sometimes even third...The protein is always first....And dont mix protein, fat, carbs in one meal...I try and always do pro/fats, and pro/carbs...As we know carbs create an insulin spike and when that is happening you want to be shuttling as little fats as possible to storage, as we all know slin does this very well...i typically eat carbs/pro in am....Then mostly fats/protein throughout day, and if im having carb day ill typically eat some oats, quite a bit of fruits or veggies (yuck)and carbs post workout and try to cutoff all carbs at 5-6 pm, depending on workout time and goals....But usually as soon as possible after 6ish...
Rest as prae advised then get back at er...Ill guarantee first weeks of DC you wont be doing any max lifting etc...If you are doing real dc that is...Not sure what your program is etc...But it is fine to do on a low carb diet, IMO, or when introducing carbs again.....I take a week or so off, then ease back into it...If you are just starting DC, you will ease into it......Then in 4-6 weeks youll be engulfed...\
Not going against what prae stated above, just ensuring you, that you wont be maxing out when starting off on this program....It will ease you back in...

[ironwill]

Praetorian, do you share these ideas of pro/fat/carbs and not mixing all 3??Curious on your thoughts on this...

[Praetorian]

Praetorian, do you share these ideas of pro/fat/carbs and not mixing all 3??Curious on your thoughts on this...

Not necessarily...I believe in balanced macro ratios...what I do agee with is the types of carbs being eaten with specific proteins....ie beef is not the best eaten with starchy carbs...better with fibrous. Carbs tend to be overeaten ayways so you dont always need a large amount of starchy carbs with each meal. Eating some fat along with carbs and protein does not necessarily put on BF because of insulin...the fats will blunt the insulin response hence negating BF deposition. You just need to be aware of the amounts etc and not go overboard. All my clients each pro/fat/carbs while dieting and it does not affect fat loss at all.
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[ironwill]

Thanks for your view prae...I was thinking more along the lines of maintaining in offseason without adding to much body fat accumulation, not necessarily for prep purposes....
I never really thought about the blunting effect of fats on insulin levels that much as i was writing...Good point...I do find that when i put most of my carbs in am, and around training i feel much more energetic and a more of a full feeling, as opposed to eating carbs with all of my meals....I believe im very, very sensitive to carbs, and getting more so as i get older......Hitting 40 this yr!!! ;^)

[Praetorian]

Thanks for your view prae...I was thinking more along the lines of maintaining in offseason without adding to much body fat accumulation, not necessarily for prep purposes....
I never really thought about the blunting effect of fats on insulin levels that much as i was writing...Good point...I do find that when i put most of my carbs in am, and around training i feel much more energetic and a more of a full feeling, as opposed to eating carbs with all of my meals....I believe im very, very sensitive to carbs, and getting more so as i get older......Hitting 40 this yr!!! ;^)

Yep ive become much more carb sensitive as i have aged....42 now and not getting any younger lol.
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[O-Train]

I disagree bro...It can and will work for anyone that is advanced enough and cycles the program as it is meant to be...It is the offcut DC programs flying around that are not going to work as well...DC is cycled trng.. As i said before, you have to be on point, not up and down...IE, good food intake, good rest and cycling downtimes for trng when reqd....

What I meant is a lot of people arn't advanced enough lifters so it wouldn't work for them. By not working all the time I meant during different points in a persons life it wouldn't work well. For example I have a newborn at home so my sleep is garbage. I wouldn't be able to recover properly so right now DC wouldn't be good for me.

[JacktheThriller]

hey btufts,
from what ive read on DC training the program involves major muscular overload, and revolves around different periods in your training: blasting and cruising. Blasting would be working near your max and setting new lifts, and cruising is sitting back at 75% letting your body prime for the next blasting session.

[ironwill]

hey btufts,
from what ive read on DC training the program involves major muscular overload, and revolves around different periods in your training: blasting and cruising. Blasting would be working near your max and setting new lifts, and cruising is sitting back at 75% letting your body prime for the next blasting session.

Not just setting back, but changing to completely different workout intensity, and different exercises as your cruise...

[btufts]

Not just setting back, but changing to completely different workout intensity, and different exercises as your cruise...

Yep that's exactly what I read in the article, definately an important time
for giving your cns a break... More than likely you'd come out stronger at the en of te cruise period

[north333cat]

Ironwill. What is your average blast length. Closer the the 6week mark or more the 12th week or so?

[btufts]

Yep ive become much more carb sensitive as i have aged....42 now and not getting any younger lol.
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Lol very carb sensitive at 18... Just imagine at 40 oh Jesus

[ironwill]

Ironwill. What is your average blast length. Closer the the 6week mark or more the 12th week or so?

For me im feeling pretty beat up around 6-7 weeks typically....

[btufts]

What kind of cardio is done on the other days?? HIIT?

[ironwill]

What kind of cardio is done on the other days?? HIIT?

For offseason and maintenance.....Just mild cardio for fat burning help and health.........1/2 hour good speed walk after post shake or supper for me...
Then contest is whatever you are doing on your program for scheduled fat loss etc....

[btufts]

For offseason and maintenance.....Just mild cardio for fat burning help and health.........1/2 hour good speed walk after post shake or supper for me...
Then contest is whatever you are doing on your program for scheduled fat loss etc....

Thats what is entitled in the program aswell, he just says cardio in the morning after a protein shake but thats all... pretty vague, i feel like i need to do some cardio during the off season just for that added fat burning/ health purposes. also helps with endurance with weights aswell. cant get too fat and slow to push those weights

[steve_o]

DC is an amazing program. I have been doing it now for about 10 weeks and I am loving the results thus far. It takes a lot of prepping of food and such but it in the end it is so worth it.

[JonnyO]

I was good for about 6-7 week blasts then a good 4 weeks cruise.

[SamTHorn]

Cool Article. Thanks for the post. This is the first time I've heard about this.

~ Sam


Hey guys... so this is all I've been hearing about lately and it sounds like a good program with some great theories... basic but knowledgeable. More weight more muscle and stretching fascia tissue for growth after each bodypart.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_24/ai_n26979199/?tag=content;col1

take a look at the article if you havn't heard of it. If you've tried the program and want to give some insight that would be helpful! I'm going to be doing this in my off season to hopefully put on about 30 pounds.

Write your thoughts and rant all you want!

B

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[The Brick]

Do you guys who do DC just stick to it full time blasting/crusing, or do you switch to other programs?

[north333cat]

I stick with just DC.

[north333cat]

Ironwill- Have you tried different lengths of cruises ex 14 days, 10 or even 7 days? which one did you find works best?

[ironwill]

Ironwill- Have you tried different lengths of cruises ex 14 days, 10 or even 7 days? which one did you find works best?

If my calories are pretty low, or i had a real good blast, ill take 2-3 weeks...Never less than 14 days though..

[Andre Gregoire]

Sorry haven't read the whole thread yet but wanted to state DC rocks. I have been training for 16yrs and it has been the most productive system out of everything that I have tried.

For years, I had good results with Dorian Yates 4 day split but when I went to the DC things changed for the better.

I always believed in low volume, high intensity but DC opened my eyes to high frequency for me that was the magic element. Training frequency of once per 5 days is better for me then the standard once per 7 days.

Rest Pause is also a great principle, when doing only one set to failure it's nice to do RP to get a bit more volume in there.

As I get older I have started doing higher reps for the joints as recommended by Dante and still getting great results.

[GYMBRAT]

Sorry haven't read the whole thread yet but wanted to state DC rocks. I have been training for 16yrs and it has been the most productive system out of everything that I have tried.

For years, I had good results with Dorian Yates 4 day split but when I went to the DC things changed for the better.

I always believed in low volume, high intensity but DC opened my eyes to high frequency for me that was the magic element. Training frequency of once per 5 days is better for me then the standard once per 7 days.

Rest Pause is also a great principle, when doing only one set to failure it's nice to do RP to get a bit more volume in there.

As I get older I have started doing higher reps for the joints as recommended by Dante and still getting great results.

Too funny, I was bout to post an almost identical post lol!

I to love DC training, as I know my body is pushing me away from my ever beloved Yates style training as well. I have also noticed a lot more toning effects from this also, but still holding the fullness of my muscle bellies as well ;)

[tiramisu]

After 10 months of DC I started getting hurt and stalling pretty significantly on my squat. It's a great program and I recommend it but don't be surprised if your tendons need a break or you hit a wall with strength on squats or deadlifts after a while.

I am starting to suspect that all good programs work equally well but that change is required after a while. This is likely more of an issue with self coaching and cookie cutter programs. An athlete's needs change and usually the athlete isn't able to effectively adjust a program until there is significant negative feedback.

Still DC was fun and productive for almost a year for me. I'll almost certainly come back to it one day.

[GYMBRAT]

Totally agree^ change is good

[ubcpower]

Think I will try it for the first time for a bulking offseason this fall. Would 4 months be enough to see how I like it?

[Andre Gregoire]

This is how Lou Joseph looked after working with Dante for 4months:

http://www.intensemuscle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25171&d=1223486770

I would say it's long enough to see if you like it. ;)

[tiramisu]

This is how Lou Joseph looked after working with Dante for 4months:

http://www.intensemuscle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25171&d=1223486770

I would say it's long enough to see if you like it. ;)


The important parts of this statement is "Lou Joseph", "Worked With" and "Dante"

A good coach and a gifted athlete but yes I doesn't take much more than 4 or 5 weeks to get your weights sorted out and a couple of months to see if it's productive.

Because of the training effect you can't really be sure whether it's a result of change or the program itself but if the program is effective and you enjoy it doesn't really matter.

[natenator]

This is how Lou Joseph looked after working with Dante for 4months:

http://www.intensemuscle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25171&d=1223486770

I would say it's long enough to see if you like it. ;)
I'd be curious to know when those pics werre taken?>

[ironwill]

I cant see the pics...But im pretty sure he was working with him around 2004, or 2003.....He was a big dc advocate back then and one of the reasons i started doing dc and got in touch with Dante through Lou.....Dc is some of the best trng i have done personally....

[BenT]

I think probably the critical element of DC is the blast-cruise philosophy. Every 8-12 weeks you have to do 2 weeks of moderate intensity training. I do 12 weeks DC and then 12 weeks of a 'regular' 4-day split with higher volume. This protocol is working pretty well for me, but I'm not an advanced bodybuilder and I do get significant benefit from volume training as well, I just like to mix it up or it gets boring.

[BenT]

I should add that I love rest-pause sets, and I still work a couple of those into each day of my higher volume routine.

[ironwill]

Try doing 6-7 weeks and then cruise...12 weeks is way to long if you are constantly beating your log book bro...key word, constantly progressing and beating the log every time....

[BenT]

Try doing 6-7 weeks and then cruise...12 weeks is way to long if you are constantly beating your log book bro...key word, constantly progressing and beating the log every time....

Yeah, I agree.

I think the most I'd do next time is 4 cycles (so 8 weeks)... but as you say, so long as I'm still beating my last each time. Last time I did DC, I think I started out wrong by underestimating my strength, it took a couple of weeks to actually get to a good "starting point".


I always keep a log book now, whether on DC or otherwise - I find this makes a huge difference in motivation and progress.

[tiramisu]

I'd stick with DC as long as the log book keeps moving and you aren't injuring. If you cruise religoiously you could probably stay on the 2 way split productively for a very long time.

[ironwill]

Yeah, I agree.

I think the most I'd do next time is 4 cycles (so 8 weeks)... but as you say, so long as I'm still beating my last each time. Last time I did DC, I think I started out wrong by underestimating my strength, it took a couple of weeks to actually get to a good "starting point".


I always keep a log book now, whether on DC or otherwise - I find this makes a huge difference in motivation and progress.
Then when you need a change, there is a 3 day split as well, at 4 days per week That DC shared with me and it worked real well also......
Just do your cruises, even when you dont think you need to..If you feel good just do a 2 week cruise and start again, Very important to do the cruise every 6-8 weeks.....

[CADILLAC]

Bump on this training method.