How likely is to improve strenght while on caloric deficit.

[Memo]

If i was to use drugs and a low carbs high protein but still caloric deficit diet. How likely my lift will keep improving?

[bigtavi8]

Before i begin i dont do 1rep maxes and dont train directly for stength. But i noticed after about 2-3 weeks into a diet of caloric deficit no matter what gear is involved my poundages always slightly go down. Maybe its just me but if i dont have enough carbs i could use 5g of gear a week and still feel weaker than offseason.

[Ritch]

I don`t think so. Unless before the diet ther person has a very shitty one, like eating twice a day, drinking and not sleeping enough. Then he does everything right, yeah he could gain strength, but more so if he were a beginer.

[Memo]

I don`t think so. Unless before the diet ther person has a very shitty one, like eating twice a day, drinking and not sleeping enough. Then he does everything right, yeah he could gain strength, but more so if he were a beginer.

We are talking about eating 7 meals a day. But cutting calories from 3000 to 2500, mostly from carbs. Drugs would be kept under 700mg/week.

Should I expect loss of strength if calories remain the same but 30min of daily cardio is added 5 days a week.

So if weight need to be cut, adding cardio or lowering calories should be done first?

[Ritch]

We are talking about eating 7 meals a day. But cutting calories from 3000 to 2500, mostly from carbs. Drugs would be kept under 700mg/week.

Should I expect loss of strength if calories remain the same but 30min of daily cardio is added 5 days a week.

So if weight need to be cut, adding cardio or lowering calories should be done first?

I don`t think you`ll lose strength with such a diet. Any tren in there?

[Memo]

I don`t think you`ll lose strength with such a diet. Any tren in there?

250mg/week testerone decaonate
350mg/week nandrolone decanoate

My friend is using this right now and his blood pressure did not change at all. So I will experiment with the same compound.

[Ritch]

250mg/week testerone decaonate
350mg/week nandrolone decanoate

I`m gonna reply although I don`t have the most experience with steroids... If I were you, running that stack with a slight decrease in cals, I`d say you`ll maintain your strength. The main benefit I think you`ll see is fuller muslces than the guy who`s natural. But such low doses like that will take forever to kick in... I`d want to have that "on feeling" not sure that cycle will provide it to you, but then again, that wasen`t your question.

so maintain strenght yes, improve it, well I`d say it depends how strong you are now.

[tiramisu]

It depends. I'm down 30 pounds and pulled a pr in the deadlift last week on the palumbo diet.

IF you were already maxed out on your strength and are an advanced/elite athlete I'd say it was a pretty cut and dry no

BUT as a novice/intermediate things aren't quite so black and white.

If strength is defined a 1RM then I think it's quite possible to continue strength development while dieting if you aren't already a well trained athlete.

If strength is defined as all those other endurance/volume/etc kinds of things that get utterly killed by a diet then nope.

... and drugs do change things in terms of water retention inside and outside the muscle cell. Any increase in muscle size at all improves the mechanics of strength ignoring the possibility of muscle hypertrophy.

... So I dunno but I just pulled a 20 pound PR deadlift (455) with 30 pounds of dieting under my belt.

[Memo]

I`m gonna reply although I don`t have the most experience with steroids... If I were you, running that stack with a slight decrease in cals, I`d say you`ll maintain your strength. The main benefit I think you`ll see is fuller muslces than the guy who`s natural. But such low doses like that will take forever to kick in... I`d want to have that "on feeling" not sure that cycle will provide it to you, but then again, that wasen`t your question.

so maintain strenght yes, improve it, well I`d say it depends how strong you are now.

This is a light cycle, but with all the bjj training I do, I cannot afford to have any impact on my cardio-respiratory system.

[L3]

when i diet i use tren...tren makes me strong like bull

[Memo]

when i diet i use tren...tren makes me strong like bull

tren does not do well for the cardio i heard

[natenator]

tren does not do well for the cardio i heard
you would be right

[ubcpower]

i think if you have taken some time off and are getting back in to it and dieting......potentially your strength would increase.
if you have been going at it consistently (which im pretty sure you have) i wouldnt look for anything spectacular. What i notice when i am dieting is that there are good days where i can pump out a few more reps and then the next day i'll come in and be just dog shit

[ironwill]

when i diet i use tren...tren makes me strong like bull
strong like bull, smart like tractor!!! ( in my best ukrainian accent):p:friday

[Praetorian]

definitely can improve strength while dieting...i pulled my best ever deadlift 3 weeks out from my first bb show.
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[btufts]

i did my biggest squat and biggest bench while dieting on keto

[japh]

I'd personally recommend a cycle which looked like 500mgs test a week, 400mgs EQ a week and 30mgs anavar a day. Being an athlete that should work well for a nice long slow diet of 16 weeks while maintaining strength and increasing muscular endurance and cardio. Pick one lift you'd like to increase strength on and work around that while working to maintain strength elsewhere. I'd suggest the deadlift or clean and jerk. Even if you maintain your strength while dieting that counts as getting stronger to me on a strength to weight ratio as well. For example, say you do chins with 25lbs around your waist. Work towards doing chins with 50lbs around your waist while simultaneously dropping 25lbs of fat. To me thats getting stronger even though you're pulling the same weight. Like others have said I think it depends on where you're at as well. For me my bench goes from 405 to 365 generally while I drop 30lbs when juicing and 365 to 315 when I'm not juicing. However, if a person is only currently beching 225 then yeah they probably could increase that if juicng while dieting. I know I could. My strength also takes the biggest hit when I get down to the last 10 pounds of my diet being I go to around 7% body fat. So maybe just go to 10% as you are an athlete I take it and not a competetive bodybuilder. Stay away from tren. You'll just look good while getting your ass kicked on the mat. Strength goes out the window once a person gasses like an old lady.

[Memo]

Japh, no way in hell my cardio will improve while on 500mgs test a week, I will be gassing out like a fat bitch with asthma while training mma. I am currently at 165 8%bf but I am doing an amateur fight at 155. I fight in the low weight class since i am only 5"5 I dont want a skinny 6' tall opponent. But it is very important that my leg power and explosiveness stay the same since my game is very wrestling take-down oriented.

I did try EQ before, I liked it but my Blood pressure was much higher that normaly, so i decided to try deca this time.

[japh]

Yeah, thanks for letting me know. That does change things a bit. Being you're already 8% you really don't have much more than 5 lbs of fat to lose and the rest could just be water. You could probably make weight now if your weigh-ins are the day before.

As far as the test goes. Thats just what worked well for me but everyone is different. I would also drop 30lbs before a fight sometimes. I was an amateur boxer and fought at heavyweight. You know your body best. You can't gain anymore muscle anyways and still make weight. I'd stay away from 500mgs of test for just for that reason alone. lol

Anyways, long story short I think you could still gain power/strength in the clean and jerk and the deadlift for sure. I personally find the bench and squat to be much more difficult when getting leaner.