small cycle

[diabolicjuice]

I have had great gains with small cycles in the past. I was able to put on a xtra15-20 pounds just with d-bol and a 6 amps of sust. I havn't used any estrogen blockers before. Never had any problems. It has been a long while since i have done a cycle, and now i am gonna do another using deca300 and sust but i want to add a blocker in there i just not sure what kind and how much to use. would surely appreciate some advise.

[Kronis]

try dbol and 7 amps of susts.

[revolution187]

u shouldnt take a blocker just cause u want to only if u have to as it hinders gains, if ur taking 4-500mg of test a week MOST(NOT ALL) people dont need an ai but if gonna be taking more u need a blocker, everyone is different i can do 500mgs a week and be fine but if i do 600mg or up my nipples get sore

[shavas]

I had a good result a with a cycle I finished 6 weeks ago of test cyp 250-500mg /week and win 50mg eod. Used 10mg of nolvadex every once in a while starting after the first week. Stopped the cycle after three weeks. Gained 11 pounds and and even up 1lb from that since being off everything. BF stayed the same or slightly better. I'm going to start another cycle probably this week with test cyp again but only go with 250mg /week and only 2 weeks long and maybe some anavar as well. Will only use nolvadex if needed and won't do any PCT except working out and eating good and some vitamins. I think nolvadex is actually quite toxic from some articles I've read and is best avoided if possible and doing short cycles I think allows this. I know it made me feel tired when I was doing it post cycle and I think reduced my libido. Starting feeling better a few days after I stopped it. I think the short low dose cycles are best as gains are good and side effects are very low. Everyone seems to say they are a waste of time but my results don't indicate that at all.

[Ritch]

I'm going to start another cycle probably this week with test cyp again but only go with 250mg /week and only 2 weeks long and maybe some anavar as well. Will only use nolvadex if needed and won't do any PCT except working out and eating good and some vitamins. I think the short low dose cycles are best as gains are good and side effects are very low. Everyone seems to say they are a waste of time but my results don't indicate that at all.

Total waste of time and drugs.

[shavas]

Total waste of time and drugs.

The usual knee jerk response which provides no substance or information. Have you done a short cycle? Short cycles of low doses do work as I've done two with great results and no regrets. I've also read from numerous individuals on other forums who've done short cycles with good results as many are tired of the side effects from long 10-12 week cycles and the subsequent crash.

[gsxr750]

Not even worth it, deleted.

Shavas you shouldn't give advice.

[Ritch]

The usual knee jerk response which provides no substance or information. Have you done a short cycle? Short cycles of low doses do work as I've done two with great results and no regrets. I've also read from numerous individuals on other forums who've done short cycles with good results as many are tired of the side effects from long 10-12 week cycles and the subsequent crash.

What the ****, does Q-train have 2 screen id`s? Yes I`ve done short cycles, they were my first ever (the 2 on 4 off by Nelson Montana) Not saying they`re the best way to do it, but I`ve done 2 of them. I`m not against short cycles. But enanthate takes a while to kick in and doing it for 2 weeks is pointless, like you in this thread.

[Ritch]

6 weeks on 250mg of Cypionate is a waste of time and drugs like he mentioned.

1) 250mg is very low, that's only double the HRT dose. You're shutting your natural production down for almost nothing

Most short cycles are done with injectables with a quicker half life.

My guess is your 'weight gain' was more so caused by your changes in eating and training, not the cypionate.

What I should have said not to have some asspipe call me out like "shavas and his 17 ****ing posts did" Man I feel like punching someone in the throat or breaking their ****ing hands so they can`t type for a good while.

[gsxr750]

Hahhahahahaha. I still liked your response better.

[Ritch]

Hahhahahahaha. I still liked your response better.

Why thank you, but still it was a team effort!

[bigtavi8]

I dont get it. Why would you do a 6 week cycle of cyp. After 4 weeks you begin to feel it and gain some strength. Its like doing a 1 or 2 week cycle. So you get the initial gains from going on and then stop and what do a 4 week pct for a 6 week cycle. I dont no never tried it but dont think i will in the near future unless im really hurting for cyp and even then id wait.

[shavas]

What I should have said not to have some asspipe call me out like "shavas and his 17 ****ing posts did" Man I feel like punching someone in the throat or breaking their ****ing hands so they can`t type for a good while.

Maybe you've been on the juice too much if you're getting this agitated over a little HRT discussion lol. Relax dude, information is just being shared and our opinions apparently differ somewhat although there seems to be some common ground as you've done some short cycles in the past.Test cyp kicks in fast enough with max test levels being reached 24 -48 hours after injection. And finishing after two or three weeks is really like doing 4 or 5 weeks as test levels will be elevated for about two weeks after the last injection. Less recovery and then less time to wait before doing another cycle if wanted. I don't see a short low dose cycle being a waste at all. In and out fast and keep the modest gains. I can see if a person is already greatly over the max natural body weight then the results might be proportionately less impressive and hence the need to do longer, bigger cycles.

[diabolicjuice]

thanks for the insight, think i will do without, unless i start producing tit juice to fill my cereal bowl, lol.