Upcoming Surgery/Timing a Cycle

[Kronis]

Looking for some opinions on when to time a cycle.

I've been sitting on my supplies for awhile now and it seams like something always comes up that prevents me starting.

I'll be having a surgery in the next couple months, probably in the Summer, that will keep me out of the gym for several weeks, possibly a couple months. I'll undoubtably lose quite a bit of weight during that period (many people report losing 20-30lbs in the first few weeks due to trouble eating and being solidly doped up the first week).

So here's my question: Would it be better to get as big as I possibly can BEFORE the surgery so that the weight loss won't be so hard on my body, OR should I just suck up the 20-40lbs loss and come back with a vengeance afterwards? Probably be about 4-6 months after the surgery before I'd be able to run a cycle (a couple months to get back in the gym, then another couple months of getting my strength/routine back).

All opinions are welcome, thanks in advance for advice.

[outshine]

That is a loose loose situation, your ****ed either way. Personally I'd leave the gear till after your recovered. It would be too much of a mind **** for me to watch my gains just waste away. I would rather look forward to making the gains.

Have you thought about going on somethign mild like var during your recovery to combat the wasting?

[SiLvErBaK]

depending on what kind of surgery it is, it could be beneficial to be on something mild the whole way through. especially immediatly following. it will speed recovery and prevent wasting. look into some anti-catabolic supps to take during that time aswell, it will prevent your body from using lean muscle as an energy source. 20-30mg of glutamine/day would be a good start.

[Kronis]

depending on what kind of surgery it is, it could be beneficial to be on something mild the whole way through. especially immediatly following. it will speed recovery and prevent wasting. look into some anti-catabolic supps to take during that time aswell, it will prevent your body from using lean muscle as an energy source. 20-30mg of glutamine/day would be a good start.

Good call on the anti-catabolics.

I have some glutamine that I stopped using, I'll also be stocking up on meal replacement shakes, and I have some periactin to stimulate my appetite and prevent catabolism.

Any other suggestions? I guess I'll just work as hard as I can naturally until a couple days before the surgery and cross my fingers, eat as much as I can, and hope I heal fast enough.

As for the mild compound like anavar, maybe I'll talk to the doc and see if there's a chance I can get a script for that purpose. ****, that would be sweet :a+ If not I'll just deal with the weight loss as it comes.

[SiLvErBaK]

Good call on the anti-catabolics.

I have some glutamine that I stopped using, I'll also be stocking up on meal replacement shakes, and I have some periactin to stimulate my appetite and prevent catabolism.

Any other suggestions? I guess I'll just work as hard as I can naturally until a couple days before the surgery and cross my fingers, eat as much as I can, and hope I heal fast enough.

As for the mild compound like anavar, maybe I'll talk to the doc and see if there's a chance I can get a script for that purpose. ****, that would be sweet :a+ If not I'll just deal with the weight loss as it comes.


definatly talk to the doc about the roids. lots and lots of bcaa's, glutamine, vit c. eas makes a good poduct called muscle armour---check it out.

[bmorlock]

i would get AS BIG AS POSSIBLE before the surgery and run some test while recovering as to keep as much size as possible and just eat as much as i can and hope for the best .. not really to much you can do bro

[Bowlcut]

Run some GH to have the body recover.
No way you will get var from your Doc and even if you did the price would be insane.

[Kronis]

i would get AS BIG AS POSSIBLE before the surgery and run some test while recovering as to keep as much size as possible and just eat as much as i can and hope for the best .. not really to much you can do bro
Ok, sorry I forgot to mention that I'm 23 and was getting ready to run my first cycle. I'd be afraid to start cruising right off the bat. Or could I time it so that I just extend the cycle by 8 weeks or so but run a long taper during that time that I'm recovering from surgery? I didn't really want to be "on" during the surgery in case there were complications.


Run some GH to have the body recover.
No way you will get var from your Doc and even if you did the price would be insane.
Ok good point. I'd heard that HG var was crazy expensive.

Given that I'm 23 would growth during recovery be a waste of $$$?

[shithead]

Definitely dont do any juice before. I've had three hernia opps, my doc recommended to me that to be safe, no juice within three months.

Might as well start afterwards with a clean slate. I trained natural before my operation and after. That year I was juice free and looked good. I wish I hadnt started again as I went full force right back into my addiction. Took another five years to stop, mind you for the most part I was careful. Until......

I ran tren! A little worked well so I figured more would work better and it did. Got a little crazy with dosages and had lotsa sides, but gained a drastic amount of lean muscle.

[Mr Ontario]

Lot's of Tren? What color was you piss? Black? lol


Definitely dont do any juice before. I've had three hernia opps, my doc recommended to me that to be safe, no juice within three months.

Might as well start afterwards with a clean slate. I trained natural before my operation and after. That year I was juice free and looked good. I wish I hadnt started again as I went full force right back into my addiction. Took another five years to stop, mind you for the most part I was careful. Until......

I ran tren! A little worked well so I figured more would work better and it did. Got a little crazy with dosages and had lotsa sides, but gained a drastic amount of lean muscle.

[shithead]

Tren ace and tren en! Maybe a total of 500-700mg/week. I was also taking in a ton of protein, not drinking enough water and drinking alcohol heavy om fri/sat. This wasnt one of my brightest moments....damn I looked good though.

My prostate suffered severely, I had night terrors, hypoglycemia and paranoia. I didnt think it was that bad at the time, looking back now I can only wonder.

[bmorlock]

if it's gonna be ur first cycle wait untill ur fully recovered then run ur cycle you should make great gains

[outshine]

Anavar: Legitimate Medical Use

Anavar is used medically to aid individuals who have lost weight due to surgery, trauma or infection. Those experiencing osteoporosis also are prescribed the drug to stop bone pain. Doctors sometimes use the medication to treat breast cancer and hereditary angioedema.

[Bowlcut]

Anavar: Legitimate Medical Use

Anavar is used medically to aid individuals who have lost weight due to surgery, trauma or infection. Those experiencing osteoporosis also are prescribed the drug to stop bone pain. Doctors sometimes use the medication to treat breast cancer and hereditary angioedema.

Var is for AIDS patients but one could try asking a doc, but most won't give it. I had a hard enough time getting a test script even with low levels, no LH or FSH, and a vericus seal in my sack.

Legit var would probably cost the same as black market GH, but the GH would work way better.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Var is for AIDS patients but one could try asking a doc, but most won't give it. I had a hard enough time getting a test script even with low levels, no LH or FSH, and a vericus seal in my sack.

Legit var would probably cost the same as black market GH, but the GH would work way better.
ya and doc prob wont give you effective dose anyway

[Bowlcut]

ya and doc prob wont give you effective dose anyway

What, 2mg is not effective? :D

[Kronis]

ya and doc prob wont give you effective dose anyway

i'd actually want it for waste prevention, not gains. i just don't want to waste away while i'm recovering.