Get rid of safemail - NOW!!

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Canada and Israel to co-operate on public safety


OTTAWA -- Canada has officially declared a partnership with Israel on issues of public safety, according to an agreement of intent signed Sunday in Israel.

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day met with the Avi Dicter, Israel's Minister of Public Security on a visit to the country during Easter weekend.

Although no details of a timeline or meetings was announced, a statement issued by Day's office said the declaration seeks to establish a more "structured framework" for work in areas such as organized crime, emergency management, and crime prevention.

The partnership outlines an intent to share information on the basis of threats and safety concerns, as well as exchanging knowledge through training and educational exercises, with the costs of these programs shared by each country.

"The government of Canada is committed to enhancing the security of Canadians -- both through our actions at home and with our international partners," said Day.

"Today's declaration demonstrates long-standing cooperation between Canada and Israel on public safety issues, and we welcome this increased cooperation in order to improve our countries' capacity to protect our citizens."

"The declaration of intent is an opportunity for Canada and Israel to strengthen their commitment to safeguarding their citizens and respective national interests from common threats," said Dicter.

Terrorist financing, money laundering, illegal immigration, and human trafficking are among some of the priorities of the declaration. Border management and security issues will also be analyzed.

Although the ministers plan to meet annually to discuss progress, the declaration is not intended to create legally binding obligations.

[td1111]

Sounds like it's time to switch. For now I at least deleted my entire inbox and sent folders. Don't want LE to know I like Asian porn :)

[Gib]

Even if you deleted it, it can still be found on their servers though cant it?

So what to use now??

[dainbramaged]

Even if you deleted it, it can still be found on their servers though cant it?

So what to use now??

Ever watch that scene in the movie "The Saint" (Val Kilmer) where he makes his contact through the internet via websites and then decodes them?

[Mr Ontario]

If you have nothing to hide I wouldn't worry about it. Mere anabolic talk as we do on here won't get you arrested. lol

[Mr Ontario]

ya...bro I think thats just in the movies..kinda like 007...


Ever watch that scene in the movie "The Saint" (Val Kilmer) where he makes his contact through the internet via websites and then decodes them?

[champcar99]

I never liked Stockwell

[Gib]

Yes we talk about aas here and thats it, but a lot of people do buisness or make orders via email.

All for entertainment purposes only, of course

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Told you all that nothing is safe :)

Don't do anything illegal and you'll always be ok. But still, no one should have the authority "just to check" your personal stuff. Big brother is everywhere now. As for the board, the rules are there. Follow them and you'll be ok always.

[guest]

awesome times!

[schrist]

Can someone please tell me what this article has to do with Safe-mail?

[Gib]

safe-mail is, i believe, located in Israel

[Freebsd1977]

Nothing new. If you run a business in Canada, the CRA has a legal right to go snoop in your bank accounts without a search warrant or needing a judges order or even letting you know. Nothign new folks.

[Mr Ontario]

ya...I was going to say...should I close my hotmail account after 12 years of use!?

[Kilburn]

the article doesnt even mention steroids, safemail or the internet. wtf are you worried about?

[St]

Wow the streets are going to be safe again.So what e-mail addy should people use?

[St]

im thinking anything non-cdn USA lover based server is best, and encrypt on your home comp with pgp

any suggestions on free email providers from iran? lol


Ya i was thinking Iran.What about cyber-rights.net?

[tripleA]

I thought everyone switched to safe from cyber because of security issues.

[Kilburn]

is safemail even funded by the israeli government?

this is stupid.

this thread should be deleted, too much information is being put out in the open.

[shithead]

I thought everyone switched to safe from cyber because of security issues.

I think he was joking.

[Kronis]

They're not going to check every email on every server, that's just retarded.

I think I'll start PGPing my emails to the people I email on a repeated basis, don't what anybody reading those steamy love letters to my local priest.

[Gib]

can someone explain 'pgp' to a computer tard?

Please??

[Rhinobolt10]

I dunno... I'm going to start working with the encryption stuff asap.... but the CFL doesn't even have a testing policy, and... (I might be completely full of shit here) I don't think any UG's have ever really gone down for gear... it's always recs.... and solid sources aren't into recs anyways... I just can't see them going nuts to grab the sources.... if it was the US who made the treaty with Israel... well I'd think there was trouble....

[gustavo77]

can someone explain 'pgp' to a computer tard?

Please??

Here you go bro:

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1198

[Preacher]

ahhh who cares unless you selling Thousands of dollars worth of gear everyday...... I still use cyber-rights and safe-mail......

Oh if anyone here is selling thousands of dollars worth of gear here.... umm hit me up....

[leeroy]

It would be wise to stop using safemail.

[leeroy]

Why take the chance eh?

[St]

use what then?


Neo-mailbox.net,or katzmail.net.

[BAM]

Carrier Pigeon.

:)

[nisser]

You're all getting paranoid. It doesn't matter where the server is; if Canada LE wants to have the records all they have to do is ask for a warrant from whichever country the server is located at.

Since Canada has excellent relations with nearly everyone in the world, every single request will most likely be granted.

If you can't take a little risk such as this, you shouldn't be in the game at all.

Or use carrier pigeons which you sacrifice after each message :lick

[bottleneckblooz]

I still think the first step in keeping your emails secure is not talking on open forums about what service your using....that and pgp.

[BolicPower]

I don't care which email you use. "They" will see it if they want. No matter what. you know how easy it is for LE to read your info? easy

[piller01]

i really think this thread should be deleted there is just a little to much info on this....

[Kilburn]

ya, delete this shit.

[Kronis]

aight, i'm tired off changing my email account every couple months. Downloading pgp professional right now.

here's a torrent for anyone interested
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1242608

[St]

there's nothing wrong with hotmail as long as it's pgp. LE won't be readng that for awhile.

There's a good free one's in russia.

Ya you have the site,or can i read the stuff when i try the set it up.:)

[leeroy]

same here

[Kronis]

http://www.mail15.com/index.php?lng=en


i dunno maybe has cookies or something?
Its based in moscow, here is ip: 82.204.219.251

Are there any of these anon emails that can be run through windows live mail or outlook?

[Kronis]

i don't believe so, but the point people have to realize, is nothing is anon anymore.

What everyone needs is to set up TOR, so no one can tell where the account was opened, and then pgp every msg.

Yeah, Tor has been great, it fixes a major flaw in safe-mail. PGP still confuses me, how do you deal with a dozen different PGP keys? I assume some members would have to deal with hundreds of different keys.

[RJ*]

****ing jews

i kid, seriously

[vigilant3]

I use Hushmail

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Hushmail is even worst than safe-mail. I scrapped my safe-mail account too.

[Mad-Bull]

Bump

[Ritch]

Carrier Pigeon.

:)

:laugh

[marcman77]

this is against human rights.....what the **** is next...........arent we entitled to a little privacy for ****s sakes..

[Mad-Bull]

Any e-mail service is good really, It's just a matter of PGP.

[cdnsoldier]

Here is a reminder just in case people forgot. It's a good article:



I've stumbled across an interesting find. There was a legal matter recently involving an individual and the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) in the U.S. To be brief, the DEA had reasonable grounds to believe that a person was soliciting anabolic steroids, a crime with serious repercussions at least in the U.S. This individual had setup shop on the Internet and used a free email service to communicate with potential buyers/sellers. The e-mail service in question was Hushmail. The DEA obtained e-mail records from Hushmail and have since filed legal proceedings.

Here's where things get interesting. The DEA made requests via the MLAT or Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty. MLAT provides law enforcement with a means to obtain legal assistance from other countries in matters such as these. The requests to Hushmail yielded several CD's worth of information in regards to this case.

I have no issue with MLAT. I have no issue with the fact that law enforcement is doing their job. I have no issue with the ISP's relinquishing information in this particular matter. However I do have a serious issue with Hushmail. For those not familiar with Hushmail, here is a brief overview:

Hushmail is a Web-based e-mail service that lets you send and receive email in total security. Hushmail messages, and their attachments, are encrypted using Open PGP standard algorithms. These algorithms, combined with Hushmail's unique key management system, offer users unrivaled levels of security. Hushmail's security is end-to-end; messages are encrypted before leaving the sender's computer and remain encrypted until after they arrive on the recipient's machine, where the contents are automatically decrypted.

Not even a Hushmail employee with access to the encrypted email stored on our servers can read your email, because the email remains encrypted in storage. A Hushmail account lets you communicate in total security with any other Hush member anywhere else in the world.


Note that last paragraph, not even a Hushmail employee with access can read the e-mail and your communications have total security and privacy. So how is then that numerous CD's of this persons wrongdoings were made available. To be specific this was the e-mail content. Again I'm not questioning that this person did wrong. He has committed a crime, but this clearly indicates that encrypted e-mails are readily available. To make matters even worse, here's another excerpt from Hushmail:

Hushmail's security cannot be broken or weakened by this government sponsored snooping software. Hush's security system is a lot like a circuit, when one Hush user communicates with another Hush user, the circuit is complete and the mail they send is completely safe. To anyone other than the sender or the recipient of a Hush message, email appears as a jumble of numbers and letters. It is completely illegible. The only way to decrypt or unscramble Hush messages is by using your passphrase when you open up your Hushmail account. Carnivore cannot decrypt your mail, and is therefore, powerless against messages sent between Hush users.


This outlines the alleged strategic advantages of using Hushmail. Even the FBI's notorious Carnivore data mining and analyzing software can't read your email. So how exactly were the contents retrieved. A few have surmised that the users passphrase was somehow snagged but do we really know. Also to be fair here Hushmail users can send to others who do not use Hushmail thereby negating the encrypted process. It seems though in this particular case both parties were using the Hushmail address so there is strong belief that both sides were encrypted, otherwise what would be the point of using the service.

Avoid Hushmail at all costs if privacy is your intention.

[BAM]

this is against human rights.....what the **** is next...........arent we entitled to a little privacy for ****s sakes..

NOt when it comes to Israel strengthening its strangle hold on the world.

I don't understad why anyone would use an Israel based mail server. May as well be the states. cuckoo!

[Blitz-Test]

PGP is not going to stop the government... Its like a building infront of a tank, will it slow it down, maybe, will it stop it.. No

PGP keeps things safe from your family, friends, enemies, employer, employees, some hackers...

[Ritch]

how does using safe-mail strengthen Isreal?

[BAM]

^^Who said that?

[macka]

The irony is that steroids aren't illegal in Isreal. You can buy them in the pharmacies. They are OTC but you don't need a script.

[Ritch]

^^Who said that?

Uh, I missread a post.

[Mad-Bull]

how does using safe-mail strengthen Isreal?

ROFL holy shit......

[cdnsoldier]

how does using safe-mail strengthen Isreal?

It's Kosher? That's all I have.

[force]

It's Kosher? That's all I have.

LOL...

[hyperlite32]

does anyone know someone who has a safe-mail account and got the same message? did theres go down too?

I thought this was a new thread. It was stared in 08' what is with that?

[JifeLacket]

yea i havent been able to log in for a few days.. weak sauce

[theboss]

i have yet to ever experience a problem.

[RagingRandy]

^^^^^ Ditto

[theboss]

^^^^^ Ditto

i guess we are on the good server..... :moon

[wolverine]

There is a message when I open my Safe-mail account stating that they had an error in the system and all Premium accounts will be brought back first and then other accounts after, all is ok people!!!

[aky]

went to go delete my stuff and i get this msg with my OLD, ERASED EMAILS BACK INTO MY INBOX. So they can still access our info even if we deleted.

We are sorry!
A major breakdown affected some accounts. After a blackout period, those accounts came back with backdated content.
We are now retrieving data using the disaster recovery system and hope to be able to get back all the missing data.
Once we finish installing data to Premium accounts, we will be able to attend to special request and questions.

[pcruiser73]

went to go delete my stuff and i get this msg with my OLD, ERASED EMAILS BACK INTO MY INBOX. So they can still access our info even if we deleted.

We are sorry!
A major breakdown affected some accounts. After a blackout period, those accounts came back with backdated content.
We are now retrieving data using the disaster recovery system and hope to be able to get back all the missing data.
Once we finish installing data to Premium accounts, we will be able to attend to special request and questions.

Yup same exact thing here. Now I cant recieve emails today only send them. Weird

[MikeyFXD35]

Cant log in to my account

[tony_canuck]

my account is fine, at least for today. I don't keep old ones, so i can't say anything about the old emails disappearing and coming back...

either way, any other options? i prefer to discuss my fantasy football picks in private ;)

[faller]

either way, any other options? i prefer to discuss my fantasy football picks in private ;)

http://www.infosyssec.net/infosyssec/security/anon1.htm

[deleteduser0001]

went to go delete my stuff and i get this msg with my OLD, ERASED EMAILS BACK INTO MY INBOX. So they can still access our info even if we deleted.



sure, they back them up. Usually a backup won't last longer than a few days or a week. Just like this board, you put up a shitty post, realise it was dumb and erase it and then the board crashes. When it comes back up when its restored.


don't panic, for gods sake.

[IronMan]

So is there any safe email sites out there now? Just normal privacey would be nice to send emails to family and friends. So what are some good private secure email sites?

[ultrasafe]

Bump that question?? I would like to know as well

[Tiamat]

Whatever email you use and for whatever reason, it is highly recommended to use a pgp encryption software to encrypt the email first. That way packet sniffing software can't read any of your emails.

Privacy is your RIGHT, not a privilege as defined by the United Nations in the human rights laws. Doing something illegal will negate that right but no one should just be allowed to snoop through your privacy without a good reason.

[Solo59]

NOt when it comes to Israel strengthening its strangle hold on the world.!

That's just plain dumb.

Solo

[spinalcolum]

does anyone know someone who has a safe-mail account and got the same message? did theres go down too?

I thought this was a new thread. It was stared in 08' what is with that?

I had the same problem,,but punched in my old password from 2 years ago,, and it worked...You guys should try that,,if your having problems still.

[faller]

You could give these a try. A Bro on one of the boards i'm on is big on security and these are what he recommends..

http://www.securenym.net/

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

http://www.keptprivate.com/

[Lukin2grow]

To the ones worrying about this being on an "open thread"...I was wondering why it has to be at all? Why doesn't the board only allow registered members to be able to view these threads in this particular forum....

[Lukin2grow]

Secondly, the reality is that the government has FAR better things to do with their time then chase individual users of AS. I wouldn't be concerned by any of this truly unrelated general security issue.

[BAM]

That's just plain dumb.

Solo

I'm glad you signed your post or we mightnot have known who wrote it.


:)

[St]

You could give these a try. A Bro on one of the boards i'm on is big on security and these are what he recommends..

http://www.securenym.net/

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

http://www.keptprivate.com/

Great site..anony,just open up a account,now need to send some money to there country.
How is cyber-rights?

[physique]

Great site..anony,just open up a account,now need to send some money to there country.
How is cyber-rights?

cyber-rights is owned by hushmail.com and there servers are in canada.

www.neomailbox.net is another good one

[cdnsoldier]

You could give these a try. A Bro on one of the boards i'm on is big on security and these are what he recommends..

http://www.securenym.net/

https://www.anonymousspeech.com/

http://www.keptprivate.com/



Kept Private is a VERY bad one. Techincal issues handled in Toronto, registered in USA.

Anonymous Speech- Located in Japan and will turn over servers ina heart beat.
securenym.net- Houston, Texas


All are bad choices. Very bad choices.

[cdnsoldier]

cyber-rights is owned by hushmail.com and there servers are in canada.

www.neomailbox.net is another good one


neomailbox.net is good but issues have arised with them. For example they have servers in Amsterdam and USA. They admitted they keep data retention (by law both locations have to). They recently (in 2008) opened servers in Switerland because they claim Swiss have less laws so make sure you pick the Swiss server.


Mutemail is good too. Located in Bahamas. They have zero retention law.

[theboss]

Mutemail is good too. Located in Bahamas. They have zero retention law.[/QUOTE]

the bahamas is a nice place....

[St]

Shit it seems like no e-mail addy is safe.
Well i just made a e-mail addy at...mailvault.com

[gsxr750]

Tempted to start my own anonymous e-mail service.

[ironwill]

Tempted to start my own anonymous e-mail service.
to late, you already told us.....doh

[faller]

Kept Private is a VERY bad one. Techincal issues handled in Toronto, registered in USA.

Anonymous Speech- Located in Japan and will turn over servers ina heart beat.
securenym.net- Houston, Texas


All are bad choices. Very bad choices.

No shit!! **** it, i'm just going use my hotmail, seems as secure as the rest anyway..

[gustavo77]

No shit!! **** it, i'm just going use my hotmail, seems as secure as the rest anyway..

No shit eh??

[hyperlite32]

Hotmail has such a HUGE data base, it might be a good place to be, just cause it could be very hard to pinpoint. just a thought.

[St]

Hotmail has such a HUGE data base, it might be a good place to be, just cause it could be very hard to pinpoint. just a thought.

Know a guy in the Military,and he said hotmail is great because there are so many e-mail (thousands)that are almost the same,and and it take forever to pinpoint.

[cdnsoldier]

No shit!! **** it, i'm just going use my hotmail, seems as secure as the rest anyway..

Hide behind a chain proxy and you are set. ANy of the big ones like gmail (shaves the IP), hotmail, yahoo are good. People trash them but truth be told a smaller company like Hush Inc. Is easily bullied by the cops while a big one isn't.

You need a proxy no matter which email you use. But all these "sfe"mail, "hush"mail etc. are as secure as the owner leads to believe which in most cases = zero.

[zziggzzigg]

Hide behind a chain proxy and you are set. ANy of the big ones like gmail (shaves the IP), hotmail, yahoo are good. People trash them but truth be told a smaller company like Hush Inc. Is easily bullied by the cops while a big one isn't.

You need a proxy no matter which email you use. But all these "sfe"mail, "hush"mail etc. are as secure as the owner leads to believe which in most cases = zero.

isn't it hard to find a proxy that works with the email forms? I've had trouble actually sending the email when trying to use a proxy with the free email sites, which ones work ok?