Bacne still 2 1/2 months after pct

[Lotto]

So I've been off pct for a while now and I still have acne mostly middle of my back and a couple on the shoulders .

I use neutrogena bar and benzoyl peroxide gel after my shower and its not seeming to do a whole lot for my mid back but my shoulders have cleared a little.

I just started taking fishoil again because I remember when I use to take it I hardly got acne.

Anyone have any luck with tea tree oil ???

P.s I kept all my gains from my cycle and my libido is amazing.

[Shafty]

Sounds like the cycle went well for ya! Which pct method did you follow? I only get acne when coming off, I just make sure to shower twice a day and use an acne wash. Seems to work ok. Goodluck bro.

[Lotto]

50mg clomid a day for two weeks.

[dremen]

50mg clomid a day for two weeks.

That is a HORRABLE pct, just horrable.

Shit most guys use anywhere between 100-200mg's of clomid every day for 4-6 weeks and MOST of the time it's not just clomid alone.

That being said what did your last cycle include gear wise?

Here is what Praetorian suggests:

1. shower frequently
2. change sheets and pillow cases weekly
3. use benzyl peroxide gel
4. vitamin B5 (Pantothenic acid) reduces oil production (8-10g daily in divied doses)
5. tanning beds do help,real sun is better
6. swim in public pools...the chlorine kills bacteria on the skin
7. Augmentin-antibiotic 875mg twice daily to clear it up
8. use 100% pure soap...Ivory no additives
9. keep hands off your face and wash hands frequently
10. Accutane last resort

[Lotto]

Test e 500mg a week .

Ran 16 weeks.

[Andre]

I never knew about B5... here's some more info...

What is B5?
From the FAQ of AcneMiracle:

Vitamin B5 is also known as Pantothenic Acid. An organic compound, part of the vitamin B complex, essential in animal metabolism. Found in all living cells and tissues, in animals it occurs in the combined form called coenzyme A, which promotes many reactions necessary for growth and well-being. Since it is synthesized by bacteria normally in the human intestine, deficiency leading to disease does not occur. B5 is sometimes referred to as Panthenol or Calcium Pantothenate. It has been shown to help metabolize fats as well as break down sebum. Please be sure to read the research study (Click here) for additional information.

When I talk about B5 (B 5, or B-5) in this FAQ, I mean a mega dose of B5. (Even 1 gram is a mega dose.)

Who discovered the treatment of B5 for Acne?
Medical Doctor Lit-Hung Leung from Hong Kong.

Some articles of Dr. Leung:

•http://www.acnemiracle.com/study.html
•http://www.pantothenic-acid.com/research.html
•http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7476595
•http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8583972
How much B5 do I need per day?
How much you need, depends on: how effective B5 will work in your body, how quick you want acne to disappear, how much money you are willing to spend and how much risk for side effects you are willing take. This differs from person to person. The following dosages are often recommended:

1.Take about 2gr B5 for the first 3 days.
2.Take about 10gr B5 for the 3 months or until acne is clear.
3.Slowly drop the dose to the lowest dose which is still effective in your body. This differs from person to person. Drop for example 1gr per week.
10gr of B5 is a mega-dose, which is a risk for side-effects. If you want to take less risk, you should probably take a lower dose than 10gr, for example 5gr or 3gr. A lower dose than 10gr will probably work less quickly.

When you quit using B5, your face will probably become oily again and acne will probably return. In my case something like within 3 weeks. But the older you get (when above 20?) the less acne you will get, so the less dose of B5 you will need.

Some people report that B5 will become less effective over time, for example over 20 months. Some of those people drop B5 for a period and start again with better results.

Personally I don't feel very safe because of the risk of side effects at for example 10gr, so I would start low and stay lower.

When should I take B5?
It's usually recommended to spread to dose over a day, so that your B5 levels will be more constant than a lot of B5 at once. Usually something like 4 to 5 times a day. Taking B5 15 minutes before of during a meal will probably give less gastral/mild-diarrhea problems.

What type of B5 form should I buy?
Vitamin B5 is usually named as "Pantothenic Acid".

Three forms
There are 3 often used forms:

•Pills (tablets, vega-caps, caps etc.): should be swallowed with water. Vega-caps are probably better than tablets because of absorption in the body. Pills are usually 500mg. Less than 500mg means a lot of pills to swallow. More than 500mg means that it's harder to swallow. Pills usually don't solve completely in water, because of some extra ingredients. Keep in mind that pills are harder to use as topical form than powder.
•Powder: should be dissolved in a glass of water and then be swallowed. The dose if Powder is harder to measure, so it's recommended to use a weight balancer/scale. Some measure it with a teaspoon. Powder can easy be used as topical form.
•Topical form: is usually a crème that should be applied on the area of the face where acne might appear.

[dremen]

Test e 500mg a week .

Ran 16 weeks.

Ya you should have run more clomid. If you do another test only cycle I recomend you use nolvadex 60mg/ed for 2weeks then 40mgs/ed for 2 weeks.

[PdH]

Ya you should have run more clomid. If you do another test only cycle I recomend you use nolvadex 60mg/ed for 2weeks then 40mgs/ed for 2 weeks.

The body can't use that much Nolva. It's overkill and a waste. 40/20/20/20/10 is fine for a cycle like the OPs. If you prefer clomid use 100/100/50/50/25. The addition of aromasin at 25/25/25/12.5 would be helpful as well. :)

[BAM]

apple cider vinegar capsules

[rob66679]

apple cider vinegar capsules

Yes.
Correct answer.

[dremen]

apple cider vinegar capsules


Huh really, Hmmmm how exactly does this help acne? Must be something to do with the ph of the vinegar?

[Bowlcut]

Try tersaseptic soap, or even better, acutane.

[PdH]

apple cider vinegar capsules

Why does it have to be apple cider opposed to plain vinegar? I'm just wondering b/c I'm a curious sort.

[revolution187]

tea tree oil? i swear by tea tree oil for ANY skin probs u may be having, i use it on my zits, a rash i once had and a cyst on my freaking head, just google it

[Beachmuscle]

Minoxycycline

[BAM]

Why does it have to be apple cider opposed to plain vinegar? I'm just wondering b/c I'm a curious sort.

I dunno, but good luck finding white vinegar capsules.

I suppose if you are manly enough, you can just guzzle some white vinegar 3 times a day. Say good bye to your esophagus though.

[evoke]

follow Praetorian's advice.

Also, grats on your successful pct. Not many guys can keep all their gains.

[Lotto]

thanks guys.....ya i was happy with my gains, all i really lost was muscle hardness but im a good 230 now and still making strength gains over what i was doing on my cycle....

[declan]

tea tree oil? i swear by tea tree oil for ANY skin probs u may be having, i use it on my zits, a rash i once had and a cyst on my freaking head, just google it

+1

After washing affected areas with panoxyl soap and applying tea tree oil twice a day, I have seen massive decrease in break out and clearing of scars. This is working so far so you might want to try it before using anything harsh.

[rob66679]

Huh really, Hmmmm how exactly does this help acne? Must be something to do with the ph of the vinegar?

I have no idea how it works, but after trying many different things I cleared up almost completely a couple weeks after starting acv.
I tried various OTC cleansers, minocycline etc etc..... Theres a couple of good threads on here regarding apple cider vinegar.

[kanuck]

Tea tree oil is awesome, also the apple cider vinegar is a good recomendation, i prefer to take 10 to 15ml of the liquid though once or twice a day...really seems to reduce my skins oil production

[monkey]

Not that its much of a help right now.. but a 16 week cycle left me walking around with bacne for a long time, almost scarred up.

shorter cycle 8-10 left me with little acne that cleared up within 2 weeks..

everybody is different I guess

[Lotto]

Most of my acne is gone but I have like a little bit in my middle area of my back close to my spine .

But I have one cyst that is being stubborn I picked up some 100% pure tto yesterday and have been adding it to infected areas after shower with a qtip.

[L3]

Not that its much of a help right now.. but a 16 week cycle left me walking around with bacne for a long time, almost scarred up.


+1 im still dealing with acne from last PCT... tanning works really well for me though

[Lotto]

Ya next cycle I'm sticking to 6-8 weeks tops . I really didn't start to see sides till about 12 weeks last run. Going to go with prop to , see how my body handles a shorter ester.

But I'm going to run clen and harden up with winny for the summer first.

[smithmitchelle]

Everyone will respond to the acne side effect different but if you tackle it with several methods you can minimize acne from forming:

take showers, all that extra oil being secreted by your body. I would take 2 showers minimum.

salyclic acid and benz. peroxide works great for infected areas and prevention.

there is soap at shoppers drug mart that have antiacne ingredients that also should help

a good facial moisturizer helps keep your skin fresh and your pores moisturized.

and someone already mentioned but tanning is great as well.

[Lotto]

See I have zero acne on my face , and all of it is gone from my shoulders. Its basically all on my middle lower back area....

[z83]

something that worked good : taper down at the end of your cycle

750mg -> 500mg -> 250gm for few weeks -> off/PCT

[smithmitchelle]

The back is definitely the most common acne area next to face acne

try the medicated ota soap at a shopper's.. I noticed I often neglected to properly wash my back try getting a back wash stick, I have no idea where I got mine but its been around forever. Since acne is already there your going to need to disinfect all the pores as they will continue to infect/clog other pores - rub salislic acid/benz.Peroxide/tea tree/witch hazel .. any of these will help

[Lotto]

Ya I've been going pretty consistent with the bp gel after my showers. I use a lufa scrub too, with ivory soap and bp or tto alternating after the showers. I also started with vitamin b5 at 5grams a day as of Saturday .

Let's just hope I can get this cleared by summer time .

[Kilburn]

Everyone will respond to the acne side effect different but if you tackle it with several methods you can minimize acne from forming:

take showers, all that extra oil being secreted by your body. I would take 2 showers minimum.

salyclic acid and benz. peroxide works great for infected areas and prevention.

there is soap at shoppers drug mart that have antiacne ingredients that also should help

a good facial moisturizer helps keep your skin fresh and your pores moisturized.

and someone already mentioned but tanning is great as well.


mostly useless cept showering and tanning. and wtf at the moisturizure? that's going to make you more greasy and all your zits more visible.

benz peroxide does fuk all.

here is a list that actually works, in order of how effective it is. iv been dealing with acne all my life, iv tried everything.

showering and using tea tree oil
tanning
high doses of apple cider vinegar
high doses of pantothenic acid
retin a (accutane in topical form)(prescription)
bactroban (strong topical antinflamatory and antibiotics)(prescription)
oral antibiotics (minocycline/tetracycline)(prescription)
accutane(prescription)

[Hugheser]

I had terrible acne, to the point I exhausted every possible option. Even accutane at 80mg every day.

I found a hot shower with dove soap, followed by ice cold to close pores cleared everything up in 3 months.

Lots of scars tho.

[L3]

my back is covered in scars because of Carbohydrate induced acne... cut out sugars and watch that shit go away...

[YYZgeddylee]

what's the effective dose for apple cider vaginager ?

What Brands are currently making a B5 tab that's 1000mg or higher ?
(back in the day it was very hard to find in reasonable/usable dose, sucked trying to get 5-10g when each tab was only 250mg)

[Sandwiches]

+1 im still dealing with acne from last PCT... tanning works really well for me though

do you use the little palm tree tramp stamp stickers?
:)

[Hugheser]

That is a HORRABLE pct, just horrable.

Shit most guys use anywhere between 100-200mg's of clomid every day for 4-6 weeks and MOST of the time it's not just clomid alone.

That being said what did your last cycle include gear wise?

Here is what Praetorian suggests:

1. shower frequently
2. change sheets and pillow cases weekly
3. use benzyl peroxide gel
4. vitamin B5 (Pantothenic acid) reduces oil production (8-10g daily in divied doses)
5. tanning beds do help,real sun is better
6. swim in public pools...the chlorine kills bacteria on the skin
7. Augmentin-antibiotic 875mg twice daily to clear it up
8. use 100% pure soap...Ivory no additives
9. keep hands off your face and wash hands frequently
10. Accutane last resort

I found alot of help in taking a really hot shower, cleaning off and then blasting cold to shut the pores.

[moh2010]

I believe doing a cleanse 2-3 times a year help. I use Now easy cleanse (15 days) before every cycles and I rarely have acne.

[BAM]

I have found that by not showering as often with soap, reduced my bacne.

(other than buttocks, genitals and armpits)