Need a good pre-wo stim

[Seth]

I recently gave up on NoXplod because it was wrecking my liver bad. Now I need something to put me in the zone for my WOs. I was thinking creating mono and either caffeine or guarana. Any different suggestions? I need something that was time-proven and that won't mess with my system too bad

[L3]

yep thats what i would go with... watch you dont take too much caffeine tho, i find it hard to breath sometimes if i take a big dose

[tiramisu]

mmm, starbucks grande americano.

[kloan]

when i took a break from my pre-workout drink, i was putting a tbsp of ground coffee in a shake with a couple scoops of whey and a 1/2 banana. seemed to work pretty good.

[sierra1]

I recently gave up on NoXplod because it was wrecking my liver bad. Now I need something to put me in the zone for my WOs. I was thinking creating mono and either caffeine or guarana. Any different suggestions? I need something that was time-proven and that won't mess with my system too bad

How do you know it was hurting your liver? I mean what were the signs?

[L3]

he got bloodwork done

[Jazzy]

200-300mg caféine
10g créatine mono
10g glutamine
5g beta-alanine

That's a good pre-workout!^^..and home made!^^

[Seth]

How do you know it was hurting your liver? I mean what were the signs?

Like L3 said, blood works showed elevated liver values. I had been off cycle for long enough without any other possible culprits to safely assume it was the NoXplode. I also found other people in different forums claiming the same. The values weren't dangerously high. But lets say someone were to use a couple of supps during a cycle along with noxplod, the values would get pretty darn high; I'd rather not be that person




Thanks for the input guys. I'll give caffeine +mono a try

[cdncolt]

I was using this mix,

200-300mg caffeine
10g creatine mono
5g beta-alanine
5g Arginine

I wasn't including glutamine cuz I was told it shouldn't be taken with creatine, but depending on who you talk too you will hear different opinions.

My mix work fine for what i needed and its cheap.

[rlmoney]

Pre-WO:
11g PeptoPro in 12oz H2O
400mL Orange Juice
3.2g Acetyl L-carnitine (ALCAR)
2g Taurine
1.6g Beta-Alanine
1000 IU Vitamin D-3
200mg Caffeine Anhydrous

[Jazzy]

I was using this mix,

200-300mg caffeine
10g creatine mono
5g beta-alanine
5g Arginine

I wasn't including glutamine cuz I was told it shouldn't be taken with creatine, but depending on who you talk too you will hear different opinions.

My mix work fine for what i needed and its cheap.


that's a good one, Yeah, opinion can differ depending on the person!

I also read on another forum that arginine taken in pre-workout can block the GH!...So, there a lot of differents opinion! ...LOL:P

but one things is sure, the first time I took beta-alanine, my ears were tingling!:P

[AcegMan]

5 hour energy

[juced_porkchop]

I recently gave up on NoXplod because it was wrecking my liver bad. Now I need something to put me in the zone for my WOs. I was thinking creating mono and either caffeine or guarana. Any different suggestions? I need something that was time-proven and that won't mess with my system too bad

the new andralic state GT! honistly tastes GREAT!. not liek the old one that some hated.
this one i have been using for a week now and i love it.
link: lgsciences.com/Pre-Workout-p/anadraulic-state-gt.htm

some guys here should be carring it now or soon for Canadian orders :-)

[warlock]

20g glutamine
3 g L_tyrosine

Caffeine only if you want