2nd cycle and some questions on tren.

[grader]

Ok so im mapping out my second cycle im thinking of running
750-1000mg of test cyp + tren cyp and maybe front-load with some winstrol.

what im wondering is what is a good base to start the tren at, i have heard everything but im thinking 300mg should be good? also how long should i take tren for im thinking of running this cycle for 12-16 weeks. also does tren act like decca in the sense of depleting testosterone? or would i be safe to take it from day one?

[Memo]

more research, you don't know enough to get on tren right now. Tren is probably supressive like deca, they are both progestin. Maybe you should look into tren ace to control side effect more easily.

[PdH]

more research, you don't know enough to get on tren right now. Tren is probably supressive like deca, they are both progestin. Maybe you should look into tren ACE to control side effect more easily.

Agreed. Leave the tren for later. Try some Deca at 300 ew or EQ at 300 - 450 ew. They're both relatively safe compounds that give very good results. If you use Deca be sure to have hcg for your pct, it shuts you down hard. You should use hcg anyway, but it's mandatory for Deca. :)

[grader]

yeah as much as a great drug decca sounds like, i know lots of guys who use, i just dont want to deal with the sides of the low libido, i came of test with nothing but nolva and it worked great, i was thinking of tren because of the effects it has on strength plus the benifit of leaning me up for summer, where as with decca you seem to hold a bit of water

[daande]

Tren will give you low libido also. However, you seem to have your mind set on using it. 500mg of Test with 300-400mg of Tren will be sufficient.

[nitrous]

im on tren right now.. first time using it and at 350mg a week of tren ace.. seems like a good level

[kloan]

funny... my libido was fine on deca

[PdH]

funny... my libido was fine on deca

Mine to. As long as your test is higher there's no problem. In my experience some people tend to exaggerate the sides of deca b/c they don't know what they're doing with it. It's one of the most useful and effective AAS available.

[#8]

I ran deca alone at 400mg a week with no libido issues. Im a pervert though.

[kloan]

Mine to. As long as your test is higher there's no problem. In my experience some people tend to exaggerate the sides of deca b/c they don't know what they're doing with it. It's one of the most useful and effective AAS available.

i absolutely loved it. i didn't want to come off... but acne is getting bad and well there's the whole cholesterol thing as well, haha.

i'll definitely run it again though next bulker. i liked it way way more than EQ.

[sinbad]

Tren ace 50mg eod works great for me. On a cycle your length I'd prefer to do eq.

[PdH]

i'll definitely run it again though next bulker. i liked it way way more than EQ.

You certainly experience significantly more gains and a greater sense of well being vs running EQ. EQ on the other hand gets one pretty hard and vascular. :)

[Praetorian]

Second cycle and 750-1000mg test plus tren...what? You are getting way ahead of yourself....front load winstrol...that makes no sense.

Time for some research...your dosages are way to high and the multiple compounds are unnecessary. Test as a base 500mg weekly and an anabolic such as EQ are all that is needed.
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