Fixing a lower back injury?

[natenator]

So, I ****ed myself doing deads on Monday. Puny ass ****ing warm up weight too before I was to start on my working sets.

It's better than Monday night but not a lot better. Cant go into work cause I can't sit for long periods of time.

Been popping robaxacette and L3 brought me some Tylenol 3 and oxycontin to help with the pain but that isn't fixing the problem.

Is is just a time thing?

My bud says go see a chiro but I am nervous about them messing with my back but I do need this fixed ASAP.

Any ideas???

[kloan]

Yeah, if you do go to a chiro, don't let them do 'adjustments'. I made the mistake of letting one do this after I messed my neck up, and it made it much worse. Plagued me for months.

[Adonis13]

maybe massage before chiro? if its somthing like a slipped disk or partial slip then a chiro may aggrivate it more, if its a strain then time and massage thereapy can help. lots of water will help as well but u prolly drink a ton already.

[natenator]

maybe massage before chiro? if its somthing like a slipped disk or partial slip then a chiro may aggrivate it more, if its a strain then time and massage thereapy can help. lots of water will help as well but u prolly drink a ton already.
I'm barely drinking anything :(

Drinking involves getting up to piss. the length of time it takes me to get up I'm concerned I'd piss myself :(

[Talo]

I have had issue's with my lower back before . From deadlifting and also from squatting.

I found that time off helped. Make sure you do Foam Rolling , Stretching , Deep Massage and even the Chiro will help speed up the recovery time.

This small book on Self Myofascial Release Techniques might help.

[Delt King]

Weird i did the same thing on tuesday on deads. Did it on my second rep with 405 though. Serves me right for totally neglecting deads for the last decade. Mine is basically on one side of my lower back and i'm sure it's muscular rather than a disc compression issue. Feeling 80% better already after 2 days. If the pain is that bad Nate that oxy and tylenol 3's aren't touching it, probably a good idea to get it checked out. Wish i could be more helpful.

[natenator]

Weird i did the same thing on tuesday on deads. Did it on my second rep with 405 though. Serves me right for totally neglecting deads for the last decade. Mine is basically on one side of my lower back and i'm sure it's muscular rather than a disc compression issue. Feeling 80% better already after 2 days. If the pain is that bad Nate that oxy and tylenol 3's aren't touching it, probably a good idea to get it checked out. Wish i could be more helpful.
weird. I was on my last warm up with 415 and it was the second rep too! As soon as I got it up I felt "it" and quickly - but slowly - lowered the weight while looking around to see who notices me being a pussy thinking I can't lift that much weight lol

I've had it before but usually it gets much better afte a day or 2.

Going to have a bud buy me a heating pad today and will continue to ice it and book a chiro appt tomorrow I guess.

[natenator]

I have had issue's with my lower back before . From deadlifting and also from squatting.

I found that time off helped. Make sure you do Foam Rolling , Stretching , Deep Massage and even the Chiro will help speed up the recovery time.

This small book on Self Myofascial Release Techniques might help.
thanks!

I'll check'er out!

[Talo]

If you have swelling I think you should wait until it goes down before you see a chiro.

[tiramisu]

You keep saying "it". Is it a muscle pull or a disc problem? Very very different things. If you don't know then you need to get in to the doctor for an mri and find out. Treating a herniated disc is entirely different than treating a pull lower back muscle.

I'm happy I've only pulled the muscles. I thought I had herniated a disc at one point as I had sciatica happening but happily it was a really bad case of tight ass (piriformis putting pressure on the sciatic nerve).


... and before you panic, herniated discs heal too (just slowly).

[natenator]

If you have swelling I think you should wait until it goes down before you see a chiro.
swelling is pretty much gone. the ice just helps numb the area so I can stand and sit for a bit :D

[slick rick]

I couldn't imaine going to a Chiro right after throwing my back out either. Keep and ice pack on it through out the day if you can. Once the acute inflamation has subsided try some stretching. i didn't see that you are taking an antiinflamatory, unless the Robaxacette has it but i don't think so. Ibroprofin did sweet dick for me. Celebrex was my miracle drug that allowed me to start stretching and strengthening it again. I had herniated and pronated discs mind you. Chiro helped a bit but i found it to be a major cash grab.

[PdH]

I've injured my back so bad I've had to crawl to the washroom on my hands and knees and use an umbrella for a cane. Chiro always fixes it up for me in no time. :)

[dremen]

Nate IMHO you should go see a chiropractor. Whatever you do don't let any of the younger generation work on you, find someone in there 40s-50s bro.

I had trouble with a few of the younger docs before and then went to see a doc in his 50s and it took the dude 3-4 sessions just to shift things around back into place the other younger docs ****ed up, but in the end I stoped having back/neck trouble all together.

Dude should take x-rays first then adjust everything so there is not going to be anything pressing on the nerves.

The pain meds will just **** up your liver if you keep on em.

Hot baths and steam rooms will help as well as deep muscle massage.

Hope you feel better nate.

[519Muscle]

I to messed up my lower back doing deads, expect i just could barley walk i went to the doctor and found out it was a lumbar strain, he gave me some pain killers but it's just a time thing. The worst pain that i ever had even had a hard time sitting on the toilet.

[natenator]

I to messed up my lower back doing deads, expect i just could barley walk i went to the doctor and found out it was a lumbar strain, he gave me some pain killers but it's just a time thing. The worst pain that i ever had even had a hard time sitting on the toilet.
im thinking thats what this is. Took me 15 mins to wipe my ass Monday night lol

not fun!!!!

I needed one of those extendo arm things fat ppl use haha

[519Muscle]

lol..(even thou it's not funny) cause i went through the same thing, sitting, standing, laying nothing was comfortable. Wow did i ever realize how for granted we take bending/moving. I'm no doc but by the sounds of it u prob have a mild lumbar strain.

[z83]

I've injured my bad exactly like you 2 weeks ago. Ice and time almost fixed it. The chiro helped slightly but not much. I'd suggest if you see a chiro, see a younger one. Chiro/kine that understand lifting and training. The last 2 chiro (old ones) find my hobby retarded.

Good luck

[ironwill]

im thinking thats what this is. Took me 15 mins to wipe my ass Monday night lol

not fun!!!!

I needed one of those extendo arm things fat ppl use haha

Hey Nate...that sucks....I would try the muscle injury route first...If it is muscle then you dont want to be jamming that sucker around via chiropractor......Personally i would go to an ART specialist as you may have some tightness in your glutes, or hips that need to be exercised and worked through that is causing spasms in your back...I havent had that feeling in awhile now, but ive had to walk like the letter S afew times all crooked and shit, it was tight muscles that caused a spasm in other muscles, and i couldnt even think hard without pain....lol...

[Van Zan]

At age 18 I ****ed my lower back doing heavy squats while using bad form. My bad form was the results of weak abs and lower back muscle. I went to a sport doctor and I was diagnosed with a spondolyse and bulding disc in the lower back area (I dont remember the which disk was involved). The sport doc promoted stretching technique and core exercise. For the next 3 year I had pain in my lower back and right leg because of my budging disc. I then tried 3 different chiro before I could find a good one. after 3 month of treatment my sciatic was gone, the bulding disc whet back to its original place. I have to watch my form now because wrong movement cant set it off again. The moral of the story is that depending on what kind of injury you have a chiro can help but you have to take the time to find a good one. For example if you suffer from a ruptured disc I doubt a chiro can do much.

good luck

[Chaps]

I agree with the Chiro, deep tissue massage and foam rolling. If the chiro has an inversion table that may be useful to decompress your spine

[fourarms]

If your back or hip is out of place the chiro is the way to go. If you see a good one that is, they're definitely not all good. Once your realigned ice it intermittently and take it easy. Until the inflamation is down and the surrounding muscles are providing proper support its very easy to pop it back out of place. Limit the pain meds, they mask the problem and you might reinjure yourself if you're not receiving your body's pain signal telling you to stop doing what you're doing. Hope you feel better.

[ironwill]

Nate, i did some groundbreaking research....What you have is....SRS, its an acronym for sperm retention syndrome, it shows up in many forms, you are seeing it through your back uncomfort, some guys get the grouchies, some fellas get 1 big forearm......:D

[tiramisu]

The last time I pulled a muscle in my lower back I had to stay home because I couldn't figure out how to put my pants on. Now that I have a wife it would probably be easier.

[519Muscle]

Nate, i did some groundbreaking research....What you have is....SRS, its an acronym for sperm retention syndrome, it shows up in many forms, you are seeing it through your back uncomfort, some guys get the grouchies, some fellas get 1 big forearm......:D

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[Mr Ontario]

Bang on :)


I have had issue's with my lower back before . From deadlifting and also from squatting.

I found that time off helped. Make sure you do Foam Rolling , Stretching , Deep Massage and even the Chiro will help speed up the recovery time.

This small book on Self Myofascial Release Techniques might help.

[Mr Ontario]

Thought you wore your pants low anyways :)


The last time I pulled a muscle in my lower back I had to stay home because I couldn't figure out how to put my pants on. Now that I have a wife it would probably be easier.

[Praetorian]

Nate get it checked out...once you are out of the acute phase...1-3days you can get adjustments and ART. Massage etc is for maintenance purposes...you need direct work in the affected area...sounds muscular and usually is...once you strained the muscle the surrounding muscle etc spasms to to try to fix it which rarely happens. ART is probably your best bet to return to training ASAP.
Email me...if you are near the GTA I can refer you to one of the best.
in the meantime...ice, advil (anti-inflmmatories), Pennsaid, high does fish oil, wobenzyme will all help.
P

[Mr Ontario]

hot baths with Epsom salts , do your sterches in there as well when your shaving your legs ;)

[Talo]

Lmao :d

[ironwill]

Nate get it checked out...once you are out of the acute phase...1-3days you can get adjustments and ART. Massage etc is for maintenance purposes...you need direct work in the affected area...sounds muscular and usually is...once you strained the muscle the surrounding muscle etc spasms to to try to fix it which rarely happens. ART is probably your best bet to return to training ASAP.
Email me...if you are near the GTA I can refer you to one of the best.
in the meantime...ice, advil (anti-inflmmatories), Pennsaid, high does fish oil, wobenzyme will all help.
P
good answer!!!....lol......Great minds .....

[_Ragnar_]

I royally ****ed my hip up deadlifting 2 weeks ago. I almost had to go to the er that night. Chiro and massage helped A TON. What ever you do, do it ASAP.

[Big_Papa_B]

nate sounds like you may have popped your SI join out of aligment. This has happened to me before while doing squats and deads.. A chiropractor can easily pop it back into place...if you do not want to see a chiro search SI Joint on google..there are a fewe good videos which show you some excersises you can do at home to help rotate the join back into place. Good Luck

[natenator]

thanks everyone. I am gonna book an appt with my chiro for some ART this week. Pain is going away and I seem to get a bit more mobility the more I move around (walking) and a heating pad also helps I find in terms of keeping stiffness at bay.

Going to try doing some light cardio tomorrow and light training starting monday. Anything that doesn't require me bending over right now I think should be ok.

[Mr Ontario]

The bean bag moist heat over the dry heat from the heat pad would better. :)


thanks everyone. I am gonna book an appt with my chiro for some ART this week. Pain is going away and I seem to get a bit more mobility the more I move around (walking) and a heating pad also helps I find in terms of keeping stiffness at bay.

Going to try doing some light cardio tomorrow and light training starting monday. Anything that doesn't require me bending over right now I think should be ok.

[natenator]

The bean bag moist heat over the dry heat from the heat pad would better. :)
I do both actually.

[Mr Ontario]

and agree try to avoid any bending over right now :)


I do both actually.

[Ritch]

and agree try to avoid any bending over right now :)

We both know that`s not a realistic line of advice...

[natenator]

We both know that`s not a realistic line of advice...
I feel like an 80 yr old man :(

[treebuilder]

Hang in there man...




I needed one of those extendo arm things fat ppl use haha

[cog]

And avoid sex.

[natenator]

And avoid sex.
not a problem. I'm swearing off girls for a while. Such an annoying hassle lol

[cog]

not a problem. I'm swearing off girls for a while. Such an annoying hassle lol

Boys?

[natenator]

Boys?
even bigger drama queens.

[cog]

LOL

[Mr Ontario]

What will the wobenzyme do?


Nate get it checked out...once you are out of the acute phase...1-3days you can get adjustments and ART. Massage etc is for maintenance purposes...you need direct work in the affected area...sounds muscular and usually is...once you strained the muscle the surrounding muscle etc spasms to to try to fix it which rarely happens. ART is probably your best bet to return to training ASAP.
Email me...if you are near the GTA I can refer you to one of the best.
in the meantime...ice, advil (anti-inflmmatories), Pennsaid, high does fish oil, wobenzyme will all help.
P

[japh]

Sounds like muscle and pinched nerves to me which is no big deal in the grand scheme of things as painful and debilitating as it is. Time off is it really.



That being said all the advice in the world won't help if you don't get it diagnosed first.

If its starting to get better cool, if its not first things first. Go see a doctor and tell him you're in excruciating pain so they will order an mri. They won't do it otherwise generally. Mention the amount of pain killers you have to take. You need to cross the most potentially serious injury off the list first! Don't get adjusted by a chiro until having done so. You can totally blow out a herniation even more if you do. This could cause permanent nerve damage and surgery to correct.

If its a minor herniation then no heavy squats or deads for a few months along with traction and massage. If it continues to get worse and is painful then surgery.

I've herniated three discs in my back from powerlifting on three occasions. One required back surgery and the other left me with permanent nerve damage in my lower left leg. Herniated discs are life changing injuries and not to be messed with! If it hits a cluster of nerves I guarantee the pain you're in now will feel like a tickle by comparison. I stopped sleeping altogether from the pain with the one that required surgery. Nearly lost my mind because of it from the constant pain and subsequent sleep deprivation.

[andrewT]

Are you in Toronto?

My back was literally ****ed for about 9 months. I stopped working out because I thought I ****ed up a disc. Went through numerous treatments. I finally found a big strong guy (who bodybuilds) and does chiro/ART (active release technique. He has saved my back I wouldn't recommend anyone else. He also helps olympians and national level athletes.

pm me if you want his name/number.

[evoke]

Boys?

LOL