Brenda Martin

[shithead]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080214/wfive_martin_080214/20080216?hub=WFive

This sick sick! those little burrito eating fvckers!

Dont get in any trouble down there. It would be years before your trial.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Been watching this for some time in the news already. Pretty shitty deal for this lady. Mexico doesn't seem like all that great no matter how nice the weather.

[shithead]

She's been imprisoned since Feb. 2006!
savebrendfund.cca says that the recent trip by two conservative MPs was a "political grandstand" to make look like the conservatives are making an effort!

And whats this about Helena Guergis(s of s, foreign affairs) saying that she has contacted Brenda over 75 times! This has been denied by Martin stating they have never had contact.
I think it comes down to the canadians having no balls unless it was to serve in the govt best interest.

I cant believe that she has publicly begged our PM to do something and nothing has happened.

Even he former boss who is already serving time for his internet fraud scheme has proclaimed in innocence.

Do think we could take action and get her out even if we wanted to?

The worst part is

[Bowlcut]

She was on CBC last week by phone and started crying. I feel so bad for her it is a living nightmare.

We could always order a "Travel Advisory" asking Canadians to stay away from Mexico.
The loss in tourism would get her out of jail ASAP, but sadly the government does not think one lady is worth the fuss.

What about the Canadian sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia. Harper needs to get on that. Oh wait, we don't have a policy of asking for clemency when Canadians are sentenced to death anymore.

[shithead]

Shes a fvcking canadian and we should order a travel advisory!

Supposedly one million ppl travel to Mexico per year. Even if we were to cut that in half with the advisory, Mexico would stand to lose five hundred million a year!

I called my MP and couldnt get through to him as he was in the house. I asked the secretary if he could get back to me, she said he only returns emails and gave me the email addy. Bullshit.

I hope Harper gets hung for this!

Goes to show ya, our country will hang you out to dry!

[St]

Little do people know ,but on Mike Duff live he said that she had fired 4 lawyers,that is why it has been taking so long.I did feel bad for her but after hearing it on the Radio,i don't know.

[physique]

She was on CBC last week by phone and started crying. I feel so bad for her it is a living nightmare.

We could always order a "Travel Advisory" asking Canadians to stay away from Mexico.
The loss in tourism would get her out of jail ASAP, but sadly the government does not think one lady is worth the fuss.

What about the Canadian sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia. Harper needs to get on that. Oh wait, we don't have a policy of asking for clemency when Canadians are sentenced to death anymore.

i disagree. if u are found guilty in another country of a crime, our government shouldnt do jack shit for you. but if u are innocent, then i agree our government should do the right thing and get them out of the situation they are in.

[St]

i disagree. if u are found guilty in another country of a crime, our government shouldnt do jack shit for you. but if u are innocent, then i agree our government should do the right thing and get them out of the situation they are in.


Very true,plus the CBC is on the far Left.

[shithead]

i disagree. if u are found guilty in another country of a crime, our government shouldnt do jack shit for you. but if u are innocent, then i agree our government should do the right thing and get them out of the situation they are in.

She hasnt even had a trial yet!

[St]

She hasnt even had a trial yet!


Maybe if she didn't fire so many lawyers.

[shithead]

i disagree. if u are found guilty in another country of a crime, our government shouldnt do jack shit for you. but if u are innocent, then i agree our government should do the right thing and get them out of the situation they are in.

What if you were falsely detained in a foreign country physique? I'm sure you would be singing a different song.

[Bowlcut]

i disagree. if u are found guilty in another country of a crime, our government shouldnt do jack shit for you. but if u are innocent, then i agree our government should do the right thing and get them out of the situation they are in.

Well the Canadian found guilty of murder in Saudi Arabia never had his lawyers argue on his behalf so how fair is that trial? What about the Montreal man being held in India after the Indian police said he could enter the country to get a new visa only to promptly arrest him once he crossed the border.

Being found guilty in the USA is a far cry from Saudia Arabia or Brasil.

She has gone through so many lawyers because her original ones took her money and ran and then she got court appointed ones that don't speak english.

She was just the cook for a guy implicating in organized crime, and by his omission she had no involvement.

[Bowlcut]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080323.wmexicomartin0323/BNStory/National/home

LOOK AT THAT!

[shithead]

WTF are you gonna do about it bowlcut?

[Bowlcut]

WTF are you gonna do about it bowlcut?

I am going to kick some ass, that or vote to turf out a government that has no sympathy.

What are you going to do shithead? Shit on them too?

[shithead]

I will email these ppl:

Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper: pm@pm.gc.ca
Peter MacKay, Minister of Defense: mackay.p@parl.gc.ca
Helena Guergis, Secretary of State: guergh@parl.gc.ca
Maxime Bernier, Minister of Foreign Affairs: bernier.m@parl.gc.ca
Rick Norlock, MP Northumberland - Quinte West: norlock.r@parl.gc.ca
Dan McTeague: dan@mcteague.ca
David Emerson: emerson.d@parl.gc.ca
Liberal Party of Canada: info@liberal.ca
New Democratic Party: info@ndp.ca
Peter Milliken, House Speaker: milliken.p@parl.gc.ca


GUADALAJARA Consulate
World Trade Center
Av. Mariano Otero # 1249
Piso 8, Torre Pacífico
Col. Rinconada del Bosque
44530 Guadalajara, Jalisco

Telephone: (33) 3671- 4740
Fax: (33) 3671- 4750
Office hours: Monday - Friday
9:00 - 13:30 hrs and 15:00 - 16:30 hrs

gjara@international.gc.ca

[shithead]

Maybe our government has a hidden agenda?

[Bowlcut]

Maybe our government has a hidden agenda?
No, just a stupid one.
I have never seen such a bunch of incompetent fools in charge.
Why cut the GST when they could have cut income taxes?
Why keep allowing our environment to be poisoned so that Americans can get il as quick as possible.

EVEN better question!
Why have a "Leave it to Beaver" style haircut with suits from Moores?


Good call on the contact info shithead. I think my MP might get an email.

[physique]

She hasnt even had a trial yet!


i wasnt even talking about her having a trial yet. just commenting as a whole.

as for her situation, maybe its because she has fired too many lawyers that the mexican prosecuters arent willing to go to court yet and are letting her stue in jail. mexican governemnet technically doesnt have to bow and bend to canadian piliticians either. how they run there courts is how they do it, why should canada push it. that would make us close to the US and we all know how hated they are for there givernment poking its nose into things it doesnt belong in.

dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for her, and i see on the weekend the politicians called for a people not to travel to mexico because of this senerio, but personally i dont think it will work. people will still go. as mexico will drop pricing and the all mighty dollar is what makes trips possible for some people.

sad really

[Demonwolf]

the USA laughs as Canada and Mexico hate each other more and more.

[Bowlcut]

i wasnt even talking about her having a trial yet. just commenting as a whole.

as for her situation, maybe its because she has fired too many lawyers that the mexican prosecuters arent willing to go to court yet and are letting her stue in jail. mexican governemnet technically doesnt have to bow and bend to canadian piliticians either. how they run there courts is how they do it, why should canada push it. that would make us close to the US and we all know how hated they are for there givernment poking its nose into things it doesnt belong in.

dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for her, and i see on the weekend the politicians called for a people not to travel to mexico because of this senerio, but personally i dont think it will work. people will still go. as mexico will drop pricing and the all mighty dollar is what makes trips possible for some people.

sad really
She says her original lawyers took her money and ran and the new ones are court appointed ones who cant speak her language. Our government should be pressuring them because too many Canadians die of mysterious circumstances down there and nothing gets done about it. They want our money from tourism but they can't even treat us with dignity.

Don't be surprised though as Mexico is a nightmare.

[physique]

now i am reading she was there ilegally for years. not paying any mexican taxes, not like are much to begin with. guess what the charge for this is deportation! obviously that aint gonna happen anytime soon, when the mexicans think they have a bigger agenda.

i will give u guys this, if people are caught doing a crime in a different country, it would be nice to see the courts appoint a lawyer from their country, at least then money wouldnt be stolen and the language barrier between accussed and councel isnt jeopordized.

but to say this story is gonna come to a end anytime soon, i dont see it happening.
i also dont believe that story u posted the link too, how do we really know nothing was said at this little get together. to say she didnt visit the prison is a insult. we all know how the media fuel the fire when there isnt even one, and how much more fuel they put on it whe n there is one, whether its true or bs. it gets rating! and it gets people upset.

its also pretty obvious a signed and sealed document from the guy serving his sentence saying she wasnt involved holds no grounds in mexico. You guys defending her, how do u "really" know she is innocent?

[shithead]

now i am reading she was there ilegally for years. not paying any mexican taxes, not like are much to begin with. guess what the charge for this is deportation! obviously that aint gonna happen anytime soon, when the mexicans think they have a bigger agenda.

i will give u guys this, if people are caught doing a crime in a different country, it would be nice to see the courts appoint a lawyer from their country, at least then money wouldnt be stolen and the language barrier between accussed and councel isnt jeopordized.

but to say this story is gonna come to a end anytime soon, i dont see it happening.
i also dont believe that story u posted the link too, how do we really know nothing was said at this little get together. to say she didnt visit the prison is a insult. we all know how the media fuel the fire when there isnt even one, and how much more fuel they put on it whe n there is one, whether its true or bs. it gets rating! and it gets people upset.

its also pretty obvious a signed and sealed document from the guy serving his sentence saying she wasnt involved holds no grounds in mexico. You guys defending her, how do u "really" know she is innocent?

I agree with this statement.



I do believe she is innocent, although I have no proof. I would hope to think this will be resolved within three months. More realistically maybe six.

One thing I do know, this is shedding a bunch of light on the ill-productive Harper government. Afghanistan helps too.

[shithead]

Other canadians have been detained in mexico before without commiting a crime before.

Google "Peter Kimber"

[physique]

peter is from this neck of the woods so i know the story already. its a shitty system they have down there , but whats one to do? i hope to god this country doesnt do what the states does and poke there nose into everyone else's business, as all that does is leave pissed off countries. (i know this is already happening)

3-6 months eh. well it is under the media eye thats for sure, but its up to the mexicans to push her thru their corrupt legal system. i will have to see it to believe it.

as for Harper everyone knows already he is spinless. but so are the ones wanting to take his place!

[Bowlcut]

If you read the Globe the guy Waage is saying that she is being held because he did not pay the $500 000 bribe to the local authorities he agreed to do.

[leeroy]

She's been found guilty. Getting 5 years.

[leeroy]

Brenda Martin found guilty
Charles Rusnell, Canwest News Service
Published: 1 minute ago
GUADALAJARA, Mexico -- Brenda Martin, the Canadian held in a Mexican prison for the past two years, was found guilty Tuesday of playing a role in a massive international Internet fraud. She was sentenced to five years in prison and fined 35,850 pesos (about $3,400 Cdn).

Martin's legal nightmare began on Feb. 17, 2006. She had arranged to meet a potential client who wanted her to cater a birthday party for his mother.

They met on a Puerto Vallarta street near her apartment. The client turned out to be an undercover police officer. He grabbed her by the wrist and several other Mexican federal police officers suddenly appeared. She was placed in a waiting vehicle.

She was eventually charged with knowingly accepting illicit funds from a scam run by her former boss, Alyn Waage.

Waage, a former Edmonton resident, masterminded what's believed to be the largest Internet-based fraud scheme in history, bilking 15,000 investors in 59 countries out of about $60 million.

Martin worked as a chef for Waage for 10 months until he fired her in early 2001 for insulting his elderly mother. He paid her $26,000 in severance pay and, without his knowledge, she invested about $10,000 into what she believed was his legitimate investment business. After Waage's arrest in April 2001, she asked him to return her investment and he complied.

The bank-account evidence of the severance pay and the investment became the prosecution's principal piece of evidence against Martin. In fact, the prosecution conceded it had no direct evidence against Martin, but insisted it had enough circumstantial evidence to "infer" that she should have known the money she obtained from Waage came from the proceeds of his crime.

Martin always maintained she knew nothing of her employer's criminal scheme and Waage swore an affidavit in support.

A series of lawyers hired by friends and family, and a public defender provided by the Mexican government, all made promises to free Martin. But for nearly two years, none delivered.

Martin became increasingly frustrated and depressed because she could never understand what was happening with her case. And the judge in her case set repeated deadlines that were subsequently changed.

A childhood friend, Waterloo, Ont., businesswoman Deb Tieleman, learned about Martin's plight in September 2007 and immediately started a public campaign to free her.

She hired a lawyer, Guillermo Cruz Rico of Toronto, and publicly criticized the Canadian government's lack of effort on Martin's case.

Cruz reviewed Martin's file and concluded there was no evidence to support the charge against her. He learned she had not been provided with an interpreter, either by police or the courts - a breach of both Mexican and international law.

The file also revealed that no one from the Canadian consulate in Guadalajara had asked to review Martin's file until she had been imprisoned for nearly 18 months.

The revelations caused a media firestorm and Martin's story figured prominently in the news for weeks after.

A constitutional challenge based on the violation of Martin's rights failed and Martin, physically weak and mentally ill, was placed on a suicide watch.

Responding to public pressure, Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier sent a diplomatic note to Mexico on March 11, raising concerns about Martin's rights.

Bernier also removed junior minister Helena Guergis from the file, replacing her with MP Jason Kenney.

After Martin's lawyer filed her defence earlier this month, the Mexican judge said he would try to issue a ruling by April 18. That deadline, however, was pushed back to today.

[shithead]

yep, I dont know what to think of her :(

[Bowlcut]

She is trying to be transfered back to Canada for her sentence, but we all can agree that Mexican "justice" is far from fair, free, or transparent.

[shithead]

She is trying to be transfered back to Canada for her sentence, but we all can agree that Mexican "justice" is far from fair, free, or transparent.

agreed!

[Bowlcut]

agreed!

Using Canadian justice she will probably get a suspended sentence, or at the very least she will politely be asked to remain in her house between 8pm-6am if it is ok with her.

[Gettin'r'round]

No sympathy.

Does anyone believe that a scammer would hire a fellow white Canadian who might overhear conversations, read emails , letters and just might be prone to figure out that you are scamming millions of dollars? Or would you hire a local mexican woman who is probably semi or completely illiterate, doesn't speak english, work for a fraction of the $ and wouldn't complain one iota! Hell you could hire 4 of them!

PLEEEEEEEEEESE. Plus she acts REAL good, and man did she ever get the media on her side. Doesn't sound like someone who's involved in a fraud scheme, oh no! "I can't take it anymoooore WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA". Last night the media were talking about the possible "damage" from the anti-depressants she was taking. WTF????? Hello! what about the millions of people HERE that take way more dangerous drugs? This is INSANE! Can't we have a media that asks QUESTIONS? and doesn't become the bimbo chearleaders on the sidelines?
She broke the law in MEXICO and to believe that she is innocent is believe in the tooth fairy. Oh sorry, the fraudster himself said she was innocent. Nice reputable, reliable source who happens to have this great tax free, offshore investment...!
BTW the Stojko's were victims along with 100's of others. They are the TRUE victims here, not Brenda Martin!

[Freebsd1977]

Too bad she's not cuter. Imagine the girl on girl prison action. EH guys? LOL This story is so full of holes, it should be called swiss cheese. We don't know who's telling the truth anymore.

[Shortdave]

My big problem is that she lived in mexico for like seven years before she was arrested and still hadn't bothered to learn the language.... damn foreigners.

[Freebsd1977]

My big problem is that she lived in mexico for like seven years before she was arrested and still hadn't bothered to learn the language.... damn foreigners.

Fish much LOL!

[Bowlcut]

My big problem is that she lived in mexico for like seven years before she was arrested and still hadn't bothered to learn the language.... damn foreigners.

How long have the French been in Canada? Oh, sorry to open that Pandora's box

[shithead]

Oh shit BC.......dont go there, please.