stimulants?

[L3]

so ive been feeling pretty burnt out lateley...like its a chore to walk around esp in the mornings after my cardio, i should say im still dieting (introduced minimal carbs on monday) and i get about ~6 hrs of sleep a night (bed by 10:30, then up at 5am for cardio)

im looking for any ideas for OTC supplements that will give me some energy

so far ive tried:

cafeeine
- coffe works allright, but i dont feel like spending the change on it / affects my pearly whites
-red bull is too $ and has aspratame
-caffeine pills make my stomach upset

ephedrine
-messes with my jhonson

b12
-did .5cc sub q this morning, feeling a bit chipper but im still having a hard time keeping my eyes open

any suggestions would be welcome, as summer is just starting and i plan on dieting at least till the fall OR i get a long term GF ;)


PS... i miss fina...sigh

[kloan]

how about yerba mate? supposed to be really good for energy, and has a lot of healthful properties. ginseng as well.. maybe pick up a bunch of various stimulant herbs and make up your own tea?

i dunno bout you but 6 hrs isn't enough sleep for me.. i'll feel drowsy no matter what with only that much sleep.

[fit226]

try taking no stimulants...i find stimulants make me a zombie...ephedrine, clen, even green tea extract.

Your epinephrine release is prob making you crash and lethargic

[L3]

naw, im not on ephies now..used them before till the ED started kicking in

just tapering off t3 currently..and started drinking coffee recently...pro tip: if you dont want gross yellow teeth, use a straw!

[drdnj]

I would get more sleep.... I know it sounds obvious

[MMASTAR]

ya man, more sleep, or if you dont want to drink coffe drink green tea, two bags per cup same caffine as a coffee... also adding carbs back into a diet has made me feel lethargic in the past...kinda like when you cut them out for a few days...

[L3]

ah i forgot about green tea...and yeah, will work on the sleep...just so used to early morning cardio now, then i get out of work by 3pm!

[fourarms]

I like yohimbine HCL, green tea, and some caffeine powder, makes morning cardio much better.

[natenator]

I like yohimbine HCL, green tea, and some caffeine powder, makes morning cardio much better.
kinda missed the point of his message...

[Delt King]

Maybe it's the carb reintroduction making you crash, through an insulin spike. I'm not sure as i've never ketoed.

Caffeine in a coffee and redbull i believe is only 80mg. Most caffeine tabs are 200mg, maybe try cutting them in half and it might not bother your stomach.

Hope you figure something out.

[natenator]

Maybe it's the carb reintroduction making you crash, through an insulin spike. I'm not sure as i've never ketoed.

Caffeine in a coffee and redbull i believe is only 80mg. Most caffeine tabs are 200mg, maybe try cutting them in half and it might not bother your stomach.

Hope you figure something out.
we're only doing 6 rice cakes post workout right now.

[fourarms]

kinda missed the point of his message...

What did I miss? Caffeine pills didn't agree with his stomach, try a powder so you can adjust dose easily. And I feel yohimbine and green tea are a nice addition.

[rlmoney]

Green tea + 1,3-Dimethylamylamine ?

[juced_porkchop]

green tea is nice.
also ginsing (AMARICAN)
google "rainy ginsing" good raw root i blend up and mix with my green tea when i make a pot.

ALCAR also good.

[L3]

more sleep + .5cc b12 2x day + green tea = working great

thanks fellas!!!!!