First time using Tren

[Baconbits]

Hey Guys,

This is my current cycle

wk 1-16 600mg test E (300mg mon & thurs)
wk 1-8 35mg Tren A ED
Wk 13-18 60mg Tbol ed

HCG during, standard PCT Nolva/Clomid

Now here's my dilema! I've been on now for 2 1/2 weeks and I havn't experienced any bad sides from the Tren nor have I experienced any increase in strength. I have upped the Tren dose to 45mg ED and still no dramatic increase in strength like everybody raves about. I have gotten better and quicker strength increases off of Dbol . I have some Dbol kicking around and was thinking about throwing that into the mix as well for 4 weeks. Am I just being impatient! Any advice would be appreciated!

[bigdaddydrew123]

ya give it a couple more weeks, your starting dose might not have been strong enough but 50 ed should do the trick.

[RJ*]

its been 17 days man
cmon now
save the dbol

[shithead]

I used to start at 50/day for the first two weeks, then up to 100/day for the remainder.

[purelife]

i also started with 50 eod then went up to 75 eod mad strenght and vascularity nice
the bad night sweats, vivid dreams , lack of sleep :)
but from now on i will use tren in every cycle :)

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Should be hitting you about now.

[IronRobi]

Be patient. You'll really start noticing soon. It's possible it's been a gradual increase that you didn't notice as well.

[Baconbits]

Thanks for the replies everyone! I guess being my first time using Tren A, I was being a little too conservative with my initial dosage. I do get vivid dreams, slight increase in aggression, but those are my only sides so far and very mild at that. The first 2 weeks were at 35mg ED, the last 4 days have been 45-50mg ED, which I will continue for another 5-6 weeks. From everything that I've read about Tren A, I guess I was just expecting it to be a little faster acting. I know my gear is legit (Sweedish, for those who know). I will give it a couple of more weeks and then I will let you guys know if I feel any difference. I'm hoping to turn into an animal :troll

[purelife]

give it time bro if the sides arent too bad for you i would do 75mg

[outshine]

im on 100mg of the same stuff eod. I started noticing sides after a week and results started coming after the 2 week mark. **** i love tren.

[St]

im on 100mg of the same stuff eod. I started noticing sides after a week and results started coming after the 2 week mark. **** i love tren.


What kind of side?

[outshine]

aggression, sweat, disruptions in sleep patterns, hair loss.

[punisher74]

I'm on the same stuff as well. I didn't see any results until day 11. The only negative sides I'm experiencing is the insomnia. However, in my case, it is severe. I’ve only had one decent night’s sleep this whole time and that is because I took 2 Nytols.

Crazy pumps in the gym, crazy strength gains, but the only time I feel good is when I’m working out. The other times, it is like I’m a walking zombie and I can’t see straight because I don’t sleep. When I do sleep, it lasts for about 15 minutes at a time; I have a vivid dream and suddenly wake up. This cycle repeats itself for the entire night. I’m going to try some Melatonin and Valerian tonight. I don’t want to rely on the Nytol too often because I heard that it is habit forming. I think the lack of sleep is really taking away from my gains.

Anybody have any other suggestions? Warm milk didn’t do shit for me.

[jjmac]

It's funny the first time I did Tren I read about the "tren cough" and I got it the first shot and every shot since. Literally the second you push the plunger into you, you cough, it's harmless just a little cough or two, but at least I know 100% if it's real because this happens to me every time if it didn't I'd know it bunk or not strong enough. Some guys don't get it, some do.

[MassNutrition]

The other times, it is like I’m a walking zombie and I can’t see straight because I don’t sleep. When I do sleep, it lasts for about 15 minutes at a time; I have a vivid dream and suddenly wake up. This cycle repeats itself for the entire night.

Anybody have any other suggestions? Warm milk didn’t do shit for me.

Man, I remember that shit. I was hitting 700mg per week in my last cycle (100mg ED). The vivd dreams, the night time sweats... I swear I would wake up and my pillow would be soaked, even the sheets. By 2am I had to move myself to the floor. I function pretty good on minimal sleep, and usually catch up on the weekends.

I don't know what to suggest. I just did my best to get through it. It wasn't that irritable IMO, just freaky. I don't know if you eat before bed, but I do, and I think it's what helped me somewhat... I sleep better on a full stomach.

[punisher74]

Just an update, the Melatonin and Valerian root did the trick. Slept like a baby (only woke up once) and picked up 3 pounds over night :)

I'm gonna alternate that with the nytol throughout my entire cycle.

[outshine]

a combination of melatonin and bendryl puts me out pretty quick, i still end up waking up from thirst at least once tho and wake up tired.

[waderow]

GABA can help with sleep, but the damned night sweats....fuuuuck. Sometimes I take a T3 and the sweats arent too bad. and I sleep too of course. never more than 6 hours though. I go to gym now cardio in AM at 5:30 and then again after work to lift.

[rated_rko]

mmmmm tren