Questions about tren

[Memo]

Would it make sense to start deca cycle with tren ace.

something like

1-3 tren A 200mg/week
2-16 Deca 300mg/week
1-16 test E 500mg/week

Can you guys please tell me if progestin problem would happen.

[kloan]

I don't see the point.

[St]

Progesterone could be a problem but everyone is different.The only way to know is to start your cycle and if you get gyno,or deca dick,then you will need to take Bromo,or Dost.

[Memo]

I don't see the point.

It was just an idea, to kickstart a cycle with tren. There is no point, and might not be logical I just wanted people input on the subject why kickstarting with tren was not a good idea.

[St]

It was just an idea, to kickstart a cycle with tren. There is no point, and might not be logical I just wanted people input on the subject why kickstarting with tren was not a good idea.

It doesn't matter what gear you start with,if you want to try tren then give it a go.You can make a thousand different cycles,and people will always say the cycle has a flaw.

[kloan]

It was just an idea, to kickstart a cycle with tren. There is no point, and might not be logical I just wanted people input on the subject why kickstarting with tren was not a good idea.
3 weeks isn't very long, so you might start to feel a little good from it.. but that's just a tease. What if you realize, hey this is fun I like this stuff and want to continue... then you're hooked! Will you still continue with Deca? Be forewarned, some might flame you straight to hell for doing so.

Might want to have some caber on hand just in case though. Vit. B6 is apparently useful in controlling prolactin sides when using lower doses of DHT derivatives.

Anyway, it doesn't seem like a bad idea... just seems like there's little point, unless it's just to appease your curiosity.

[Ritch]

What do you think Dremen? :pb

[Memo]

If Deca was replaced by EQ and Tren was run 5 weeks.

[tiramisu]

Would it make sense to start deca cycle with tren ace.

something like

1-3 tren A 200mg/week
2-16 Deca 300mg/week
1-16 test E 500mg/week

Can you guys please tell me if progestin problem would happen.

I'm trying to figure out why one would do this. Can you explain what positive benefit you might expect out of this?

1. What are your objectives for the cycle?
2. What will taking tren for 3 weeks at the beginning of the cycle do for you?
3. Why would you take deca/test both to week 16? How will this affect your PCT?

[pseclint]

Kickstarting with tren is pointless, why not just use a tren enth throughout the cycle instead

[pseclint]

also 200mg a week of tren is not enough..... need at least double that

[Memo]

I'm trying to figure out why one would do this. Can you explain what positive benefit you might expect out of this?

1. What are your objectives for the cycle?
2. What will taking tren for 3 weeks at the beginning of the cycle do for you?
3. Why would you take deca/test both to week 16? How will this affect your PCT?

Ok, I wrote this quickly as a thought because I was bored. I did not really reflect about this. The point was Tren, not really Deca itself. It would be good to stop pinning deca 2-3 weeks before test.

There again was not so much objective to the cycle. I was mainly asking about using tren as a kickstarter like some people use orals.

[rickyboy36]

Would it make sense to start deca cycle with tren ace.

something like

1-3 tren A 200mg/week
2-16 Deca 300mg/week
1-16 test E 500mg/week

Can you guys please tell me if progestin problem would happen.

Not the best cycle.I would use Tren ace with prop maybe and winny and run it longer.But If you really want to do it,id do it this way:

week 1-3 Tren ace
week 1-15 Deca
week 1-16 Test

You see,i like running my tren longer so i dont really see the point for 3 weeks.Id use d-bol or something instead.If your absolutley sure you can run both tren a deca together(using anti progesterones as well) then id run the tren it 6 weeks.But at least doing 3 weeks by the time the deca really hits,the tren is out.And yes,I know deca is in your system the moment you do your first injection,but its not as strong as when you hit weeks 4 or 5.

As for the deca,15 weeks would be max,if running Test E 16.You want the deca to have 4 weeks to clear out before doing PCT and by doing it that way,it also gives time for your test E to clear as well.If it was me,Id do 12 weeks of deca instead to allow my body more time to recuperate,but to each their own..

[Memo]

I have Test decaonate here for my next cycle to go with deca. And after reading all this Im gonna keep tren another day.

[dremen]

What do you think Dremen? :pb


I know you're being sarcastic, but IMHO I see no point at all to use tren for only 3 weeks at the start of a test/deca cycle. I admit i tend to think a lil outside the box, but what Memo posted seem pointless to me.

If he was to run test/deca/tren and had aromasin/nolva on hand as well as some bromo just incase the worst happens to him then I would say go for it. And the deca/tren should be ended 2 full weeks before the test.

Hypothetically speaking of course;)

BTW Memo test-susp is the best kickstart there is bro. 100-150mg/ed for a few weeks is AMAZING.

[gregdoucette]

i disagree with the 200 tren a week beign not enough it would do a heck of alot for any novice.

[tiramisu]

i disagree with the 200 tren a week beign not enough it would do a heck of alot for any novice.

... and plenty if not novice. 75 mg eod + 500 mg test is an effective dose and what I'm doing in my last 8 weeks of cutting. Yes I've done double that and too much test but a 750 mg / week test... 75 mg eod tren cycle would give good results with low to moderate sides on any bulking cycle. Double that and you've got acne, brutal night sweats, and aggression to deal with that may not be your bag.

[L3]

50mg tren A eod is more than enough if your gear is dosed correctly

[Solo59]

Kickstarting with tren is pointless, why not just use a tren enth throughout the cycle instead

Yes, and use enough Tren e (300 to 600 mg) to know you're really on it!

Solo

[KTMD]

i disagree with the 200 tren a week beign not enough it would do a heck of alot for any novice.

Agree 100%. 200mg of tren was PLENTY for me when I first ran it. Always start low to see how your body responds and play it by ear, beginners really don't need high doses at all to get dramatic results. Hell, I know people who get just as good results on just 250mg/week of test on their first cycle as people who do 500mg and with less sides too.

[bigtavi8]

I undertand your logic OP but thats quite a short low dose blast of tren a. Maybe if your doing a 10 week cycle say use it at 350EW the last 4 weeks or something to get its cutting capabilities.

[Rhinobolt10]

I'm doing 300mgs a week of tren E, for 5 weeks, I'm 2 weeks in, and it shouldn't be doing anything, but I feel it, a lot, I'm smoking all time PR's, finding it hard to get fat no matter what I eat, and I'm angry all the time.

I've been up to 800mgs a week, and I still feel that 300-400 a week is really all I need. 200mgs a week will knock your head off no matter what anyone says.

[buildinthaskinnys]

Would it make sense to start deca cycle with tren ace.

something like

1-3 tren A 200mg/week
2-16 Deca 300mg/week
1-16 test E 500mg/week

Can you guys please tell me if progestin problem would happen.

I say leave the tren A in until at least week 4 then the rest of the drugs should be in high enough concentrations to take off. And as rickyboy mentioned run the test longer but at least two weeks after the last shot of deca, from personal experience I would run it a month longer. At the dosages you are running you will never see progesterone problems and if you do, very little will likely arise. I say do it and then let us know how it went, might be good for all the "experts" around here, really.

[JonnyO]

just use the test/deca and wait for it to kick in.

[Avitoholis]

just use the test/deca and wait for it to kick in.

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