Cutting for summer

[Skyblob]

Hey guys, been long time! :P

Well in 1 month im starting to cut for the summer. This will be my fourth cycle.

204 lbs
13% bf
5f9

I don't want to use many compounds, something to maintain my muscles and also a cosmetic and hardener. Maybe i'll ad T3/clen.

I already tried Test/Tren and really liked it!
I can have TTS from Gard which is (50mg Test Sus/50mg Tren Base/50mg Winy)
I tried eq and winstrol also... Winstrol ****ed my joints hard and EQ i really loved it, loved the vascularity but I feel more vascular on IGF-1 lr3.

I have no clue what cycle to run.. Hope you can help me out guys!
Thanks ! :)

[L3]

i think you should start with posting your diet :)

[Skyblob]

Im bulking atm. Diet will be carbs rotation. Low to high days. Eating lean and also lots of cardio.

[Mr Ontario]

i think you should floss first :)

[daande]

Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Tren E
Weeks 8-12: 50mg Winny ED

[Mr Ontario]

He wont do winny :)


Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Tren E
Weeks 8-12: 50mg Winny ED

[dremen]

Weeks 1-12: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Tren E
Weeks 8-12: 50mg Winny ED

Drools;)

[Skyblob]

Lol i know i said i dont take winstrol :P But i wonder if i try it injection it will be different... idk lol i did denkall winstrol 2 years past. Oral. **** my joints man :P Will see will see. :P

[guest]

you may want to check out masteron.

[Skyblob]

Masteron would be good only when im in 1 digit bf? I know such as winstrol but winstrol will harden me alot and give me extra strength and i find it a good cosmetic even if at 13% bf

[#8]

500mg test EW
50mg var ED

that cycle makes me feel invincible. im not a hardcore dose guy, but i find that stack makes me lose substantial amounts of fat without any substantial changes to my diet.

[dremen]

Masteron would be good only when im in 1 digit bf? I know such as winstrol but winstrol will harden me alot and give me extra strength and i find it a good cosmetic even if at 13% bf

Honestly you don't need anything other then the test/tren.

Test/tren is the best cycle there is IMHO. Tren alaways keeps me lean(ish) even when bulking so just think what it will do when dieting properly:p

[Danger]

Winny/Mast seem like such a waste of money when really just modifying your diet and eating less which will save you cash! will do the same thing... seems like your spending money to avoid saving money to me unless your actually competing.

I gotta agree with Dremen, Test/Tren is probably your best bang for the buck as long as your good with the tren sides; but as always with cutting your most important choices are made at the dinner table. As long as you keep that in mind its hard not to have a sucessful cut.

[dremen]

Winny/Mast seem like such a waste of money when really just modifying your diet and eating less which will save you cash! will do the same thing... seems like your spending money to avoid saving money to me unless your actually competing.

I gotta agree with Dremen, Test/Tren is probably your best bang for the buck as long as your good with the tren sides; but as always with cutting your most important choices are made at the dinner table. As long as you keep that in mind its hard not to have a sucessful cut.

Wow bro I would be very careful if i were you. To agree with something i've said in the open forums is just looking to get flamed.....lol:D

[Skyblob]

lol :P Well I did one cycle test tren at 100mg EOD each.. Should i bump it at 200mg each eod? TEst p and tren a .. Or stay with 100mg eod? Thanks !

[tiramisu]

Big dosages and cutting don't make a lot of sense. Enough to hold muscle is all you need.

[daande]

Big dosages and cutting don't make a lot of sense. Enough to hold muscle is all you need.

I agree. All he would need is a keto diet and 500mg a week of test to hold onto muscle. I just assumed he wanted other things when I wrote out test/tren/winny.

[Mr Ontario]

did you floss yet? and you might want to comb your hair as well...looks like you just got out of bed :)

[Skyblob]

what u mean floss bro? :P yea my hair isnt done on the pic haha :P Also, keto i did it when i was way fatter.. I think carb cycling will do the trick with lots of cardio .. since im 13% bf. So test tren or test tren winny.. ill think bout it :P

[Mr Ontario]

Looks like your checking if you got something stuck in your teeth lol :)


what u mean floss bro? :P yea my hair isnt done on the pic haha :P Also, keto i did it when i was way fatter.. I think carb cycling will do the trick with lots of cardio .. since im 13% bf. So test tren or test tren winny.. ill think bout it :P

[Skyblob]

I guess it funny but i dont know the definition of floss lol! Im french hihi

[N00bBT]

Soie Dentaire :O

[Skyblob]

ahhhh lol XD merci :p

[dremen]

lol :P Well I did one cycle test tren at 100mg EOD each.. Should i bump it at 200mg each eod? TEst p and tren a .. Or stay with 100mg eod? Thanks !

I prefer to run more test then tren so maybe try 150mg/EOD of test-prop and 100mg/EOD of tren-ace.

Mmmmm damn that sounds fun;)

[Solo59]

Honestly you don't need anything other then the test/tren.:p

The simple truth. Nothing better, especially if both are enanthate.

Solo

[leborg]

Soie Dentaire :O

I learn something new everyday lol

Test and tren is a great combo. Good luck to you Skyblob and come visit us at physiquextreme.com :)

[Skyblob]

Yea im already at physiquextreme :P . But yea maybe 150testp and 100mg tren a eod would be good ! Indeed indeed :P
Im not running enanthate esters. But maybe i should lol, **** my life when jabbing eod -_- hate it!

[Mr Ontario]

Sounds like someone is just procrastinating lol :)

[Skyblob]

Noo lol im on pct now :P I need to save money before getting other gear, so i have time to think :P

[Solo59]

Yea im already at physiquextreme :P . But yea maybe 150testp and 100mg tren a eod would be good ! Indeed indeed :P
Im not running enanthate esters. But maybe i should lol, **** my life when jabbing eod -_- hate it!

Despite a lot of talk, I honestly don't understand why so many insist short esters are "better". I get great results from longer esters with fewer sides, too, not even to mention only two darts per week. I can use ventrogluteals, delts, and upper side glutes for all my shots, too.

Solo

[Ritch]

Despite a lot of talk, I honestly don't understand why so many insist short esters are "better". I get great results from longer esters with fewer sides, too, not even to mention only two darts per week. I can use ventrogluteals, delts, and upper side glutes for all my shots, too.

Solo

From my limited experience, the kick from the prop is what I liked. I did a mix last summer of the 3 long lasting esters and didn`t feel the kick or the "on" feeling of test.

[dremen]

From my limited experience, the kick from the prop is what I liked. I did a mix last summer of the 3 long lasting esters and didn`t feel the kick or the "on" feeling of test.

I find i get more sides from long esters due to build up or whatever it is, with short esters the compounds don't have a chance to build up and cause bad sides. Tren-E even at 500mg/ew tends to make me short of breath just going up a flight of stairs and a treadmill is almost out of the question, but when running tren-ace at 75+mg/ed i can hit the treadmill no problem so not exactly shure what the deal is.....lol.

This is just my personal experience.

[MikeyFXD35]

TNT and var. you get your test and tren in one shot and var increases your strenght more than winny and you keep most the gains from it.

[Skyblob]

Not strength im looking here bro. Im not looking to push hard cause i'll be mostly glycogen depleted with deficit of cals. Just need cosmetic and hardener and anabolic. So test/tren would be good. Now the debate is long esters or short. Short esters will cost me less for 10 weeks than long ester at same dose for 15 weeks. Hmm lol

[Solo59]

From my limited experience, the kick from the prop is what I liked. I did a mix last summer of the 3 long lasting esters and didn`t feel the kick or the "on" feeling of test.

Well, I also like to kick-start with Test prop or even Tren ace, if I've got it. But even if I don't, the "on" feeling becomes quickly present in body & libido for me. Like night & day, really.

Solo