Perceptions on Gear

[JacktheThriller]

I'd like to get some opinions on the current perceptions on gear.

IMO media and officials have turned gear into one of the biggest social no no's in the drug world. They are classified in the same categories as herion and cocaine, yet legal in certain contexts? This makes little sense. Either they are extremely adverse, or they are not. Certainly, percriptions can be seen as a way of controlling intended use, in a safe manner. Do you think if you could buy steriods in a pharmacy and they came with a pamphlet on use that the young deaths be mostly be eliminated? I do. Part of the reason for these young deaths, which are only the smallest portion of the population, far smaller than say cigs or alch, is that unintended abuse occurs. Kids aren't sure how much to take or who to ask or how to come off them. The drug being blacklisted and have such a strong social stigma attached to it, is the reason kids can't reach out to people for help.

Anyways this whole idea of getting a discussion going was because on the weekend I went to a party. It was a average group of university students. At somepoint in this party a guy pulls out a baggy of cocaine and starts doing lines with a couple people in the livingroom surrounded by people. So its been sitting in my brain, stewing. So you can break out coke at a party, but you can't talk about steriods for fear of a presumably larger social stigma. WTF is that shit! In our society people are more likely to be open about being a ****ing cokehead, then admit they are on steriods.

[daande]

I agree with what you are saying. It is really sad though like for instance in the gym you know who's on juice and what not but you would never walk up to a random guy who you knew was on juice to talk about juice with him. Yet all the cokehead's can gather together and all talk about doing coke and snort lines infront of everyone without it being a problem.

[#8]

When I see someone doing coke at a party I leave. Coke heads are the biggest joke losers of all time and should be shot and pissed on.

There is no excuse for doing coke unless you are a movie / rock star, and then I can see it being social because you are so rich that it doesnt matter and everyone else in your life is doing it too, and if you kill yourself, its somewhat expected.

[dku]

I think the cultural perception is that taking steroids is somehow "cheating". I've heard that many times from a number of people. I could see that it is cheating if you're a pro athlete who has agreed to not use performance enhancers, but other than that I can't fathom how it could be cheating.

I kind of like how it's a bit taboo though. If it wasn't then a lot more people would be on it.

[dremen]

It's all bullshit man. Like **** if you don't work out you're a fat slob and if you workout and look jacked gear or no gear you're automaticly labeled a juice head.

Do what you want and **** the rest of the world i say.

[musclehead123]

I think the cultural perception is that taking steroids is somehow "cheating". I've heard that many times from a number of people. I could see that it is cheating if you're a pro athlete who has agreed to not use performance enhancers, but other than that I can't fathom how it could be cheating.

I kind of like how it's a bit taboo though. If it wasn't then a lot more people would be on it.

agreed thats its the preception of cheating that gets people.

Also the fact that steroids also involve needles and the general public only see them in doctor's office/hospital situation. How many people have you seen pull out a bag of needles and cook up some heroine to shoot up at a party in the livingroom (crack houses do not count).

[MuSuLPhReAk]

The gov't and media have turned AAS into the modern witch hunt. To the average citizen, AAS is evil, dangerous, and associated with cheaters. Thus no one has remorse when someone goes to jail for years when it concerns AAS.

The writing is on the wall. Times are changing for the modern bodybuilder. Busts are happening more frequent. LE is going after sites selling prescription drugs no matter where they are in the world (operation pangea and pangea II). It is starting to be regarded as a social cancer and they are doing something about it.

Being on a bb site, your perception is WAY different than the average citizen, and your gov't. You are the minority.

[L3]

im hiding my aas use from all future gf's...for the record...

[declan]

im hiding my aas use from all future gf's...for the record...

No way you are going to pull it off :D By the way you look now, every girl you hit on or hit on ya if thats the case, will profile you lol..

Bear with me but my theory is its the supplement companies who don't want to quash the AAS misconceptions. They will lose all their precious brainwashed Muscle Tech using average Joe once they can get hold of the real thing that works ;) The media and their love of ratings also sensualize all aas related stories, lay the blame on them for spreading such crap!

[natenator]

No way you are going to pull it off :D By the way you look now, every girl you hit on or hit on ya if thats the case, will profile you lol..

Bear with me but my theory is its the supplement companies who don't want to quash the AAS misconceptions. They will lose all their precious brainwashed Muscle Tech using average Joe once they can get hold of the real thing that works ;) The media and their love of ratings also sensualize all aas related stories, lay the blame on them for spreading such crap!
He can get away with it. He doesn't really have the size for someone to say he's on gear. It could be natural.

[tiramisu]

It seems like things will get worse before they get better. It's likely best just to keep your use of aas to yourself. In Canada we aren't quite at the level of stormtroopers at the front door but it wouldn't take much for our government to "align" us with the american law. There are certainly no societal pressures for legalization.

To date we haven't suffered aggressive prosecution. I think this probably the best we can hope for.

[L3]

He doesn't really have the size for someone to say he's on gear.

cant argue with the truth...but i do look a *bit* juiced when i have a pump going

[natenator]

cant argue with the truth...but i do look a *bit* juiced when i have a pump going
True dat.

It wasn't a diss against you at all as you look good man! But perhaps you are certainly more jacked than the average joe out there or even average gym rat

[O-Train]

True dat.

It wasn't a diss against you at all as you look good man! But perhaps you are certainly more jacked than the average joe out there or even average gym rat

Based on the pictures I'd think he was a little sauced up. It's just the more likely conclusion. Although the perception of guys who have been around the gym for years vs. an average woman would be different I think.

[natenator]

Based on the pictures I'd think he was a little sauced up. It's just the more likely conclusion. Although the perception of guys who have been around the gym for years vs. an average woman would be different I think.
There's no question he was lol but I also don't think he physique is unreasonable of someone who could be natural either.

Just saying for some of the smaller guys it's a bit easier to play the natural card than it would be for the bigger dudes.

I could be wrong though and that's just *my* perception?

[declan]

There's no question he was lol but I also don't think he physique is unreasonable of someone who could be natural either.

Just saying for some of the smaller guys it's a bit easier to play the natural card than it would be for the bigger dudes.

I could be wrong though and that's just *my* perception?

Your point of view is based on the fact that you live and breath training and weight lifting Nate, and have been around people who actually have physiques matching their gear use. However, the public eye is different anything better than their appearance they assume its from gear already. This may spring from envy or the fact that they are close minded about this issue, thinking that they can never have a decent appearance unless they are genetically gifted or use chemical aid.

For smaller guys like those on the 5'4-5'8 range will have a hard time hiding a 180-200lbs frame though lol.

[natenator]

Your point of view is based on the fact that you live and breath training and weight lifting Nate, and have been around people who actually have physiques matching their gear use. However, the public eye is different anything better than their appearance they assume its from gear already. This may spring from envy or the fact that they are close minded about this issue, thinking that they can never have a decent appearance unless they are genetically gifted or use chemical aid.

For smaller guys like those on the 5'4-5'8 range will have a hard time hiding a 180-200lbs frame though lol.
You make a good point. I don't generally see it from the perspective of joe citizen and generally I do not care.

In the gym, I don't care either, but when people who don't do gear and look at me and that way I train they may think I am sauced up which is fine but hopefully they also realize I'm busting my ass harder than anyone else and maybe because they see me dripping in sweat, exhausted, resting on the floor against the wall that maybe, just maybe it isn't "all drugs" therefore change their perception a little bit.

Who knows. I def. do not care though.

I got accused plenty of time before I ever touched so it's all normal to me.