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guest
03-03-2010, 12:39 PM
This board is becoming a good example of it.
There are a few hatchets overdue for burying. This is a discussion forum where, I assume, opinions are welcomed and Mods are in place to keep things in check.
What happened to camaraderie and respect? The practice of taking a humorous jab at a fellow member has now evaporated into full on personal attacks, often without instigation. The only harm in considering another member's point of view may be added perspective, no one is right 100% of the time.
This community is meant to exist as a tool of support.
I never thought I would say such a thing..... but BR would likely be of help here.
xoxo,
Bana
natenator
03-03-2010, 12:43 PM
Sorry :(
ironwill
03-03-2010, 12:57 PM
This board is becoming a good example of it.
There are a few hatchets overdue for burying. This is a discussion forum where, I assume, opinions are welcomed and Mods are in place to keep things in check.
What happened to camaraderie and respect? The practice of taking a humorous jab at a fellow member has now evaporated into full on personal attacks, often without instigation. The only harm in considering another member's point of view may be added perspective, no one is right 100% of the time.
This community is meant to exist as a tool of support.
I never thought I would say such a thing..... but BR would likely be of help here.
xoxo,
Bana
Lots of good folks have given up and left the board...Too bad IMO.....
Good post Banaman
dremen
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
This board is becoming a good example of it.
There are a few hatchets overdue for burying. This is a discussion forum where, I assume, opinions are welcomed and Mods are in place to keep things in check.
What happened to camaraderie and respect? The practice of taking a humorous jab at a fellow member has now evaporated into full on personal attacks, often without instigation. The only harm in considering another member's point of view may be added perspective, no one is right 100% of the time.
This community is meant to exist as a tool of support.
I never thought I would say such a thing..... but BR would likely be of help here.
xoxo,
Bana
You're totaly right bro. I myself am guilty of blowing up when people talk down to me, but after your post i think i will practice being humble from now on.
I feel the same way bro, we are all brothers/sisters here at CBB and when we start acting like children and bashing one another no good comes from it.
Thanks for the wake up call bro:D
Ritch
03-03-2010, 02:29 PM
It is getting out of control on some days. It`s not that bad, but your post comes at a good time where some people should reconsider how they are acting now. The racist shit has to end as well, I`m tired of it, and it`s simply shamefull to allow it.
I havnt seen anything on this board that was that serious but then again it's pretty much impossible to offend me.
Ritch
03-03-2010, 03:57 PM
I havnt seen anything on this board that was that serious but then again it's pretty much impossible to offend me.
The N word has been thrown around here alot. Just because you spell it n*****s dosen`t make it right.
natenator
03-03-2010, 03:57 PM
I havnt seen anything on this board that was that serious but then again it's pretty much impossible to offend me.
I bet a pic of your ex ****ing a black guy would do it.
Just sayin
Gemini
03-03-2010, 04:05 PM
I bet a pic of your ex ****ing a black guy would do it.
Just sayin
Saying that you pretty much just defeated the whole purpose of this thread but I gotta admit I lol'd.
^^ perhaps, but shes not a dirty night rider so that will never happen.
As for the n*****s comment, if they can throw it around all the time, whats the difference if someone else does?
How do you kill a fox?
Cut of his leg and make him run across canada.
Offensive?
Ritch
03-03-2010, 04:11 PM
Ok, there`s been some funny stuff said here, but I said my point and will leave it at that. And yes it`s stupid they can say the word, but not us. Just the way it is.
tiramisu
03-03-2010, 04:42 PM
I'm finding the racist shit fairly disturbing. It wasn't necessary last month. I don't understand why it's necessary this month.
My solution to the current problem is to use the ignore function. If people feel the need throw shit around in a public forum it seems the only thing available other than whining to MP or just deleting this url from my favourites is to filter it out the people who think that this is ok.
I don't mind the occasional silliness but when it becomes an issue on every thread I open it's time for a spam filter.
ab_chic25
03-03-2010, 04:47 PM
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How do you kill a fox?
Cut of his leg and make him run across canada.
Offensive?[/QUOTE]
I find this highly offensive due to the fact I have lot a lot of people I love to cancer. I agree I dont post much but I do read lots of the threads and have to say, wow you all have some issues with each other. Its actually quite sad to see grown men acting like kids in a public fourm where people come to ask honest questions and are seeking honest help instead someone posts an answer and out comes the idiot, rude comments.
Ritch
03-03-2010, 04:54 PM
^^^ But it`s like that on most boards as well. Even worse! The thing that makes me worry about starting to censor how poeple post is what it can lead up to. Alot of stuff we say here can offend various groups of people. And if we start censoring, before you kow it we won`t even be able to use the word fag.
So in a sense it should be left as is. You want to post certain racial or social slurs, just be aware judgement is being passed on you. Do the posters care, who make the posts, obviously not, just saying, that`s all...
Ritch
03-03-2010, 06:03 PM
We`ve now reached sticky status!
You racist mother ****ers...
Does this mean dead baby jokes are a no no as well?
Victor85
03-03-2010, 06:57 PM
I may be a newbie here, but good point Bana.
kloan
03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
Does this mean dead baby jokes are a no no as well?
hmm.. as in how many dead babies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
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anyhoo, agreed banacek.
I find it interesting to talk to people of different backgrounds...
GYMBRAT
03-03-2010, 08:29 PM
I love bodybuilding it's great
waderow
03-03-2010, 09:10 PM
people are generally too sensitive,..... okay, they are down right ****ing babies or...pussies.
suck it up buttercup.
better not buy a rap album
better not get a job amongst men
better not go see a comedian in a non family setting
better not go in the internet
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET OFFENDED YOU LITTLE PUSSY FAG
but yes, there is some aggressive attitudes here that could be checked, but usually those attitudes are funneled towards guys who instigate it or have otherwise had it coming...
I have wrote some things that I have regretted
I have had some outright rude and mean things written towards me, including incestual mom banger shit and anal fingering jokes.
See me crying about it? no, but i can see how some more tender guys might be offended so point taken
JacktheThriller
03-03-2010, 09:48 PM
you have to take things on boards with a grain of salt. People are far more likely to act hostile and antisocial because they are hidden and ambiguous, and therefore face no consequences. Comments and attitudes breed future comments of similar attitude. This board is well controlled IMO. The nate-dremen banter is quite entertaining. We have to remember that in the real world people do not express their feelings as freely as here. Social outcast and consequences may be the only thing holding back our extremely negative views. So when someone makes a racist comment don't get bent out of shape about it, just ignore it and eventually it will stop. The more attention you draw to "negative" posts, the more it breeds.
guest
03-03-2010, 11:04 PM
people are generally too sensitive,..... okay, they are down right ****ing babies or...pussies.
suck it up buttercup.
better not buy a rap album
better not get a job amongst men
better not go see a comedian in a non family setting
better not go in the internet
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET OFFENDED YOU LITTLE PUSSY FAG
but yes, there is some aggressive attitudes here that could be checked, but usually those attitudes are funneled towards guys who instigate it or have otherwise had it coming...
I have wrote some things that I have regretted
I have had some outright rude and mean things written towards me, including incestual mom banger shit and anal fingering jokes.
See me crying about it? no, but i can see how some more tender guys might be offended so point taken
In my view it's not so much about being offended Wade, it's more about having some manners, modesty and respect for others. It's easy to be a dick, it doesn't require any effort or character, just a heaping spoonful of ignorance.
You are not even aware of how overly sensitive your response makes you sound.
Sandwiches
03-03-2010, 11:11 PM
In my view it's not so much about being offended Wade, it's more about having some manners, modesty and respect for others. It's easy to be a dick, it doesn't require any effort or character, just a heaping spoonful of ignorance.
You are not even aware of how overly sensitive your response makes you sound.
kudos bro if i could
Big D
04-03-2010, 07:08 AM
good post bana.
MuSuLPhReAk
04-03-2010, 08:37 AM
This is not going unnoticed. I'm working on another part of the site (launching it hopefully this month) and can't involve myself in every thread.
But it is starting to get to the point of degrading the board. I suggest some of you to start conducting yourselves a little more mature and respectful of the other members as if you troll here, you disrespect CBB and the work a lot of us have put into it, mainly myself.
I have known a lot of you for many years and like a lot of you, but in the end, if you are no good for the site, you will be removed or mass ignored.
Not saying you can't get into heated discussions/arguments. Those are sometimes constructive. But to be full out racist or get to personal attacks and/or threats is classless.
Everyone has a personality on a site and in real life. You always have that family member or friend that grumbles all the time or complains, argues with everyone. Yet we still are tolerant of them. Same here, we tolerate a lot of behavior but there is a limit to how far you can take it. If I have to get involved, then you've crossed the limit but that's usually a little too late as I am ready to ban at that point. So check yourselves and treat others with the same respect you want to be treated with. We're all here to help each other and to keep motivated in this lifestyle. That is the whole purpose.
To come here to belittle others or to troll makes you unwelcome. If you want to be part of CBB, at least bring something positive to the table. Help the site grow in a healthy way. If not, well....you know.
dremen
04-03-2010, 12:36 PM
This is not going unnoticed. I'm working on another part of the site (launching it hopefully this month) and can't involve myself in every thread.
But it is starting to get to the point of degrading the board. I suggest some of you to start conducting yourselves a little more mature and respectful of the other members as if you troll here, you disrespect CBB and the work a lot of us have put into it, mainly myself.
I have known a lot of you for many years and like a lot of you, but in the end, if you are no good for the site, you will be removed or mass ignored.
Not saying you can't get into heated discussions/arguments. Those are sometimes constructive. But to be full out racist or get to personal attacks and/or threats is classless.
Everyone has a personality on a site and in real life. You always have that family member or friend that grumbles all the time or complains, argues with everyone. Yet we still are tolerant of them. Same here, we tolerate a lot of behavior but there is a limit to how far you can take it. If I have to get involved, then you've crossed the limit but that's usually a little too late as I am ready to ban at that point. So check yourselves and treat others with the same respect you want to be treated with. We're all here to help each other and to keep motivated in this lifestyle. That is the whole purpose.
To come here to belittle others or to troll makes you unwelcome. If you want to be part of CBB, at least bring sometime positive to the table. Help the site grow in a healthy way. If not, well....you know.
In all honesty boss you let a LOT of shit slide. Other BB sites do not allow a lot of the slander that gets tossed around here not to mention down right rude and uncalled for comments. A few mods who actualy temp ban members for talking shit or give warnings would be great.
CBB is awesome, but the members who think it's their person playground to **** with other people need to go.
My .02 Boss.
ironwill
04-03-2010, 12:42 PM
When a mod does try and regulate hate, racial stuff,women chastizing etc. they can get beat down fast as well.....It has to be a majority that believes in it and folks have to back the mod working to clean it up also...Or major fail....:)
I kind of feel that the majority applaudes racial jokes and women bashing , from what i see on the board....
natenator
04-03-2010, 12:47 PM
When a mod does try and regulate hate, racial stuff,women chastizing etc. they can get beat down fast as well.....It has to be a majority that believes in it and folks have to back the mod working to clean it up also...Or major fail....:)
I kind of feel that the majority applaudes racial jokes and women bashing , from what i see on the board....
I don't think they applaud it but rather will happily laugh at it if it's funny.
Kinda like the retarded kid you see gurgling and giggling away to himself in a store. It's chuckle material but I don't think anyone thinks someone who is retarded is a laughing matter.
I could be wrong but in general I agree. I do get the odd giggle from some of the racial or relationship type musings people post about but not too much.
ironwill
04-03-2010, 12:55 PM
Im guilty as charged for giggling as well, normally its the fella saying it throwing it in at the right time so to speak....I just TRY (for the most part) to not add to it or enhance the joke in that way.....I am a bit more concerned about the outright hatred i see from some....Maybe im wrong about the majority and maybe my perception is skewed as i pay attention to it....
I kind of think as Bana alluded to that we should try and act as we would if the person was standing right there, and try and use respect when we can, or when it is deserved ......The morals have kind of been flung to the outside with some keyboard warriors...Not meaning you Nate, as im pretty sure you would say the same to a persons face, as you would on here...But a lot of fellas and some ladies are quite liberal with their insults, when you know they wouldnt say it in real life.....
If that makes sense...!!!:)
waderow
04-03-2010, 12:58 PM
I don't think they applaud it but rather will happily laugh at it if it's funny.
Kinda like the retarded kid you see gurgling and giggling away to himself in a store. It's chuckle material but I don't think anyone thinks someone who is retarded is a laughing matter.
I could be wrong but in general I agree. I do get the odd giggle from some of the racial or relationship type musings people post about but not too much.
I have seen racial slurs, and quite frankly, anyone bugged by them do not get out much, or view life through rose coloured glasses.
I have also seen racial slurs directed towards a member, and that in all honesty should not be happening. LOL Trying to think if I did that, and I dont think so, besides some homo comments to the gay guys here fishing for anal sex and posting gay nudes.
ironwill
04-03-2010, 01:00 PM
I have seen racial slurs, and quite frankly, anyone bugged by them do not get out much, or view life through rose coloured glasses.
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If only life were that simple bro......:)
MuSuLPhReAk
04-03-2010, 02:07 PM
CBB is awesome, but the members who think it's their person playground to **** with other people need to go.
Couldn't have said it better.
warlock
04-03-2010, 03:02 PM
Quite simple: I have been the member of Canadian boards for about 5 years now.
The day that someone posted that I should be killed for being a fagot, even though i reported that post nothing happened.
I saw that that type of people have more value than myself and decided to not engage anymore.
If CBB is the place where the internet gladiators get together I prefer to not post and I see myself coming here less and less as it feels less and less relevant to see rudeness for the sake of it.
I doubt that these people walk around shouting Ss and Fs at anyone that disagree with them or keep their level of rudeness anywhere.
I used to brag about being the visible minority respected by everybody and left alone by the haters. There is along time I can't say it.
Sandwiches
04-03-2010, 03:36 PM
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rickyboy36
04-03-2010, 03:45 PM
Im guilty as charged for giggling as well, normally its the fella saying it throwing it in at the right time so to speak....I just TRY (for the most part) to not add to it or enhance the joke in that way.....I am a bit more concerned about the outright hatred i see from some....Maybe im wrong about the majority and maybe my perception is skewed as i pay attention to it....
I kind of think as Bana alluded to that we should try and act as we would if the person was standing right there, and try and use respect when we can, or when it is deserved ......The morals have kind of been flung to the outside with some keyboard warriors...Not meaning you Nate, as im pretty sure you would say the same to a persons face, as you would on here...But a lot of fellas and some ladies are quite liberal with their insults, when you know they wouldnt say it in real life.....
If that makes sense...!!!:)
Good post,but one thing concerns me here though.Just because someone would have no trouble telling you to **** off in person,still doesnt give him the right to tell you to **** off here unless of course you really really asked for it.In all honesty,I dont get easily offended when people tell me off,what bothers me most is the overall negative tone it gives the board.When this is repeated over and over,eventually people are going to leave.I mean there are days where you will actually see more fighting that anything productive being said here.Not good.
ironwill
04-03-2010, 03:55 PM
Good post,but one thing concerns me here though.Just because someone would have no trouble telling you to **** off in person,still doesnt give him the right to tell you to **** off here unless of course you really really asked for it.In all honesty,I dont get easily offended when people tell me off,what bothers me most is the overall negative tone it gives the board.When this is repeated over and over,eventually people are going to leave.I mean there are days where you will actually see more fighting that anything productive being said here.Not good.
You are correct, No-one unless they are pushed has the right to be beligerent...I guess what i was meaning is the keyboard warriors make it feel like they sometimes are only here for that, and typically the biggest mouths are the little fellas that cant, or wont stand up for themselves, or to others as freely as they do on some boards i see....They take out lifes frustrations in anonymity and belittle and bother others to feel the power they lack in real life....When in reality they should focus on their shortcomings and frustrations they have with reality and stop bringing them onto boards like these....Thats what political forums and nazi forums are for, to share your views with a common audience...
slick rick
04-03-2010, 06:06 PM
Good post.. Bana for Mod.. MP make it happen!! This board has come a long way.. it is attracting higher level body builders and trainers ect..would hate to see it lose it's steam now. Great work MP.
wolverine
04-03-2010, 09:32 PM
Bana thanks for voicing this, it has been on my mind for a while, I love this place but something needs to change, attitude ajustments of some folks, lets get along like we all did before!
rob66679
04-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Bana thanks for voicing this, it has been on my mind for a while, I love this place but something needs to change, attitude ajustments of some folks, lets get along like we all did before!
It's gone from people with an ulterior agenda causing a problem, which was very effectively dealt with MP, to people with a different agenda causing a problem.
I think we should be able to discuss anything respectfully, but there is a certain % of people here who's openly racist/homophobic comments are tolerated. And the more its tolerated, the more it grows...... I havn't been a member for that long, and the Aryan undertones have grown a lot.
I really have not seen to many boards, even wide open ones where just about anything goes, with all the racial shit thats said on here. Its not just off-color stuff either, its full blown rhetoric...... IMHO it belongs on a different site.
rob66679
04-03-2010, 10:33 PM
You are correct, No-one unless they are pushed has the right to be beligerent...I guess what i was meaning is the keyboard warriors make it feel like they sometimes are only here for that, and typically the biggest mouths are the little fellas that cant, or wont stand up for themselves, or to others as freely as they do on some boards i see....They take out lifes frustrations in anonymity and belittle and bother others to feel the power they lack in real life....When in reality they should focus on their shortcomings and frustrations they have with reality and stop bringing them onto boards like these....Thats what political forums and nazi forums are for, to share your views with a common audience...
Yep.
Ritch
04-03-2010, 10:37 PM
This is what I fear. Now there will be no more homo jokes allowed, then we won`t be able to make religious jokes, won`t be able to call sports like bowling and darts pussy sprots, then the site will become an internet version of what muscle media was. Careful for what you wish for...
waderow
04-03-2010, 10:40 PM
This is what I fear. Now there will be no more homo jokes allowed, then we won`t be able to make religious jokes, won`t be able to call sports like bowling and darts pussy sprots, then the site will become an internet version of what muscle media was. Careful for what you wish for...
heavily modded, heavily ruled and controlled is no fun. I agree. But, like everything in life, for the sake of a few offended, all must conform
Ritch
04-03-2010, 10:43 PM
heavily modded, heavily ruled and controlled is no fun. I agree. But, like everything in life, for the sake of a few offended, all must conform
Here`s the thing, it`s not out of control... Yet. Even the heavily moderated sites like T-nation and rx condone the type of conversation that`s attempted to become a thing of the past here. Is it necessary we become holier than them?
kloan
04-03-2010, 10:49 PM
EXAMPLE 1:
You're missing the point.
It's not about censorship. It's about stopping all the bullshit flaming. Post after post people are just flat out attacking each other, calling names, and sounding like a bunch of immature wankers.
There's something called forum etiquette that quite a few people on here are completely clueless about. You can argue, dispute, etc people's comments without attacking them directly and calling them names.
This isn't about having a thick skin, or whatever. The ball busting, ribbing, joking around is great fun and there's nothing wrong with that. What's getting out of hand is all the direct attacks on each other and flat out racist propaganda.
If that's the site you guys prefer, I suggest you look elsewhere. I think the majority of members on here are getting sick of it, me included. Seems like some people just post these controversial topics just to stir shit up, rather than have an intelligent conversation about.
EXAMPLE 2:
Just shut the **** up Ritch and Wade. You guys don't know what the **** you're talking about. Seems to me plenty of people on here are sick of assholes like you talking shit about them, talking n***** this and that, and generally making this board suffer because of your stupid ass comments.
Now, which one is more conducive to an intelligent, respectful conversation?
(disclaimer, my post is merely meant as an example, I don't have anything against either one of you and I am not upset. :))
waderow
04-03-2010, 10:52 PM
Here`s the thing, it`s not out of control... Yet. Even the heavily moderated sites like T-nation and rx condone the type of conversation that`s attempted to become a thing of the past here. Is it necessary we become holier than them?
i think we could all be nicer, and I am trying to be nicer to dremen, but I agree, its not that bad. some racial things could be toned down, but like I have said before, its a bunch of aggressive alpha type men who have their hormones hopped up. it isnt going to be rose petals and tulips all the time
Ritch
04-03-2010, 10:53 PM
Again, it`s not that bad. And there`s always the ignore button. I don`t know how accurate your "majority" assumption is...
And I haven`t even taken part of any heated discussions lately. So it`s not like I`m for it, I`m not against it either. Just saying, it`s not that big of a deal.
waderow
04-03-2010, 10:53 PM
You're missing the point.
It's not about censorship. It's about stopping all the bullshit flaming. Post after post people are just flat out attacking each other, calling names, and sounding like a bunch of immature wankers.
There's something called forum etiquette that quite a few people on here are completely clueless about. You can argue, dispute, etc people's comments without attacking them directly and calling them names.
This isn't about having a thick skin, or whatever. The ball busting, ribbing, joking around is great fun and there's nothing wrong with that. What's getting out of hand is all the direct attacks on each other and flat out racist propaganda.
If that's the site you guys prefer, I suggest you look elsewhere. I think the majority of members on here are getting sick of it, me included. Seems like some people just post these controversial topics just to stir shit up, rather than have an intelligent conversation about.
can you off the top of your head cite a few examples?
i saw daande say some native stuff. i use the auto censor from time to time for the n word. is that what is breaking your heart?
kloan
04-03-2010, 11:03 PM
can you off the top of your head cite a few examples?
i saw daande say some native stuff. i use the auto censor from time to time for the n word. is that what is breaking your heart?
Nah, it's not necessary to cite examples, you know what I'm talking about.
The religious/race stuff for the most part doesn't bother me. I'm mostly annoyed with all of the flaming going on recently. It's just negative and brings the board down.
When I first joined this forum, it felt like a close knit community where people joked with each other and were supportive. It's slowly declined to the point where a lot of the time people just attack each other and break them down.
I just feel it's unnecessary, and it's not very nice to read all the time. Hell, I could rant and rave like a loony too, I'm full of androgens all day long and even dropping a fork from the counter sets me off... but I've tried to remain respectful of people on here and not let my inner demons lash out. I know I lost my cool a few times here and there in the past, but I've been making an effort to not do that. I feel others should do the same to make this place a more welcome and supportive community like it was a year ago.
waderow
04-03-2010, 11:08 PM
Nah, it's not necessary to cite examples, you know what I'm talking about.
The religious/race stuff for the most part doesn't bother me. I'm mostly annoyed with all of the flaming going on recently. It's just negative and brings the board down.
When I first joined this forum, it felt like a close knit community where people joked with each other and were supportive. It's slowly declined to the point where a lot of the time people just attack each other and break them down.
I just feel it's unnecessary, and it's not very nice to read all the time. Hell, I could rant and rave like a loony too, I'm full of androgens all day long and even dropping a fork from the counter sets me off... but I've tried to remain respectful of people on here and not let my inner demons lash out. I know I lost my cool a few times here and there in the past, but I've been making an effort to not do that. I feel others should do the same to make this place a more welcome and supportive community like it was a year ago.
it started after the no lab talk, no pics, no serious roid talk stuff. We all liked talking about it, and all had it in common. Now, you can only talk so much about diet, and lifting. The rest gets channeled into off topic, and the political topics always bring out the emotions
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:13 PM
See Kloan, your post is a perfect example of what I`m talking about. You, the race stuff dosen`t bother you, but it kinds does for me. Some may like the flamming unlike you. You can`t please everybody. Besides I think this boardd regulates itself very well making the intervention of mods a rarerity. The main culprits to some of these problems must have or will read these posts, and I`m willing to bet things will tone down by themselves. No need for an all out ban. I`m telling you, you`ll regret it.
tiramisu
04-03-2010, 11:20 PM
There are plenty of excuses for bullshit behavior. The argument that you need to allow bullshit behavior because if you didn't then everyone would be repressed is a specious argument.
In the last little while a tone of racism and ad hominem attack has shown up. The ones carrying it on are a small minority, likely less then 10 individuals who post frequently. Accepting this behavior is not fair for the other several thousand users of the this board.
Happily this is not a democracy.
See Kloan, your post is a perfect example of what I`m talking about. You, the race stuff dosen`t bother you, but it kinds does for me. Some may like the flamming unlike you. You can`t please everybody. Besides I think this boardd regulates itself very well making the intervention of mods a rarerity. The main culprits to some of these problems must have or will read these posts, and I`m willing to bet things will tone down by themselves. No need for an all out ban. I`m telling you, you`ll regret it.
you`ll regret it.??
what the hell your talking about
you and wade are a disease to CBB
We need to get rid of it!
waderow
04-03-2010, 11:25 PM
you`ll regret it.??
what the hell your talking about
you and wade are a disease to CBB
We need to get rid of it!
offended and deeply hurt. u should be banned. waaaah
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:25 PM
you`ll regret it.??
what the hell your talking about
you and wade are a disease to CBB
We need to get rid of it!
It`s stupid posts like yours that cause the outrages here... You haven`t contributed **** all to this site, so your opinion is void.
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:26 PM
offended and deeply hurt. u should be banned. waaaah
I second that...
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:29 PM
Yup, Flip and his 4 posts since august 2008 sure has made an impact here...
kloan
04-03-2010, 11:29 PM
See Kloan, your post is a perfect example of what I`m talking about. You, the race stuff dosen`t bother you, but it kinds does for me. Some may like the flamming unlike you. You can`t please everybody. Besides I think this boardd regulates itself very well making the intervention of mods a rarerity. The main culprits to some of these problems must have or will read these posts, and I`m willing to bet things will tone down by themselves. No need for an all out ban. I`m telling you, you`ll regret it.
Well, I said for the most part. Some of the racist stuff does bother me, but it's mostly the hateful comments. I was more or less referring to the jokes.
I'm not sure what I'll regret though, care to elaborate? I don't recall MP stating anything specifically that he was going to do to take care of the 'troublemakers', just that it has to stop.
I think we can all still have our cake and eat it too. But perhaps, a little less throwing it at each other?
kloan
04-03-2010, 11:31 PM
It`s stupid posts like yours that cause the outrages here... You haven`t contributed **** all to this site, so your opinion is void.
lets not forget null...
Yup, Flip and his 4 posts since august 2008 sure has made an impact here...
:beat :sup
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:32 PM
I think we can all still have our cake and eat it too. But perhaps, a little less throwing it at each other?
Exaclty even Wade agreed to tone some of his stuff down if I`m not mistaken. There is no need to go apeshit over this. If that`s ok with you Flip...
Ritch
04-03-2010, 11:33 PM
what pic are you going to add to that flip?
Exaclty even Wade agreed to tone some of his stuff down if I`m not mistaken. There is no need to go apeshit over this. If that`s ok with you Flip...
cuz you feel the heat now you agreed to tone down?
take it like a man :fart :mock
guest
05-03-2010, 12:39 AM
This is not going unnoticed. I'm working on another part of the site (launching it hopefully this month) and can't involve myself in every thread.
But it is starting to get to the point of degrading the board. I suggest some of you to start conducting yourselves a little more mature and respectful of the other members as if you troll here, you disrespect CBB and the work a lot of us have put into it, mainly myself.
I have known a lot of you for many years and like a lot of you, but in the end, if you are no good for the site, you will be removed or mass ignored.
Not saying you can't get into heated discussions/arguments. Those are sometimes constructive. But to be full out racist or get to personal attacks and/or threats is classless.
Everyone has a personality on a site and in real life. You always have that family member or friend that grumbles all the time or complains, argues with everyone. Yet we still are tolerant of them. Same here, we tolerate a lot of behavior but there is a limit to how far you can take it. If I have to get involved, then you've crossed the limit but that's usually a little too late as I am ready to ban at that point. So check yourselves and treat others with the same respect you want to be treated with. We're all here to help each other and to keep motivated in this lifestyle. That is the whole purpose.
To come here to belittle others or to troll makes you unwelcome. If you want to be part of CBB, at least bring sometime positive to the table. Help the site grow in a healthy way. If not, well....you know.
heavily modded, heavily ruled and controlled is no fun. I agree. But, like everything in life, for the sake of a few offended, all must conform
Have you considered that the guy quoted above you is one of those "few"?
can you off the top of your head cite a few examples?
i saw daande say some native stuff. i use the auto censor from time to time for the n word. is that what is breaking your heart?
Is an example really necessary when the owner of the board has spoken about this so clearly?
I don't think you can help yourself from getting into an argument.
dremen
05-03-2010, 03:10 AM
If people like wade want prime examples of what this thread is about you don't need to look any further.
I would say have to say i've been bashed more on this site more then any other member and 99% of the time it's just bullshit remarks out of the blue for no other reason then to just be a ****ing prick and take put me down.
Example: I go out of my way to pin myself with sterile oil to show other members here a few new spots to use that for me are easy and painless and instead of a "Thanks man" or "Cool maybe i will try" I get put down for not looking up to snuff.
Example: I post that test/tren/deca is an awesome cycle and then almost everyone replys calling me stupid, **** tard, idiot, retard ect. even though Praetorian openly states it's one of the best cycles he's runs and recomends it to people he trains. So if Praetorian (who happens to be a ****ing PRO bodybuilder and CBB's go to guy for PROPER information and anything related to lifting) says it's awesome and I say it's awesome how come im the only "****ing idiot twat noob" that don't know shit?
Then im told im just asking for it, ya ok.
Search ALL my ****ing posts and you will see me trying to help out with shit i know first hand and most if not all of my shit talk is just in RESONSE to other here he decided to just up and bash me for the hell of it.
I can get great info at BB.com with little to no hassle or bashing compared to here, now how ****ing sad is that huh?
Now I wait to be called a baby or some other shit like that...lol:popc2
Knuckles28
05-03-2010, 06:02 AM
I used to post on MN but here i dont bother (much). your opinion or advice here only gets flamed or some take your opinions, advice, or questions as a personal attack. MP is MN completely gone now?? I dont have the link on this pc and im too lazy to go upstairs and look :)
Kinda miss GEO, BD, and Macka oh and not too mention the slickster Slick Rick ;). Guess ill have to hit them up on facebook.
I would say have to say i've been bashed more on this site more then any other member and 99% of the time it's just bullshit remarks out of the blue for no other reason then to just be a ****ing prick and take put me down.
look dremen, this is the internet. when we join this site, we all start as equals. it is how you conduct yourself, the info you post, the claims you make, and the pictures you put up that shape our perception of you. and since in reality we have NO IDEA what you are really like, this online persona is all your doing. if the majority of members have negative opinions of you, its because you've instilled that attitude upon us with your e-persona.
when i joined this site, i thought i knew everything. i used to run my mouth about stuff, OTC supplements, etc. IronRobi and Nate used to bust my ass and rip on me ALLL THE TIME... like literally every post. and what did i do about it? read, learn, and stopped spouting shit until i got first hand experience.
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I post that test/tren/deca is an awesome cycle and then almost everyone replys calling me stupid, **** tard, idiot, retard ect. even though Praetorian openly states it's one of the best cycles he's runs and recomends it to people he trains.
P is at a level that is beyond 97% of the members on the board. he can run these sorts of cycles because his training and diet are intense enough that his body needs the high andro/anabolic ratio. for the rest of us gym rats, these types of cycles are completely uncessecary, and even dangerrous. and for you to say that P "recomends it to people he trains" is a full out lie to make your argument better. here is his original post..where exactly does he state that he reccomends it to his clients?!?!?
Its actually one of my favourite cycles. I have never experienced any negative sides with those compounds and I have run them multiple times together in the last ten years.
....
You have to remember as well that sides are dose dependant...many guys run way too much gear and then run into issues and blame the cycle or the compounds...more is not always better.
P
as you can see, he actually WARNS us against it.
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Search ALL my ****ing posts and you will see me trying to help out with shit i know first hand and most if not all of my shit talk is just in RESONSE to other here he decided to just up and bash me for the hell of it.
its a slow day at work, so i did search ALL the posts you've made that have been kept in the cache, all 500 of them. here are some gems that show exactly how much "frist hand" experience you have, and just how well you know your gear.
Oh ok well if your nuts are back to normal-ISH size and you've been clean for at least 3 months then yes bro your levels should be perfectly normal.
Oh man i have to agree with ya for sure. I tried my liquid var around 150-200mg/ed for about a week during my last cycle and holy shit was it awesome. Pumps lasted long after i was done at the gym, strength went up way faster then with dbol and muscles were very very hard.
If u run dbol for just 4 weeks of course all your weight gains will just be water, but if you run the dbol for say 8-12 weeks along with test you will develop a lot more muscle mass. Of course when the dbol is droped you will need a good month to drop the water weight and bloat, but i think its worth it.
Dbol, var, tbol IMHO can be run year round if your in good health and dose stays on the low end.
not only is the advice you give uneducated, its also dangerous!
the pics you posted of how to do proper injectinos show just how little you know about diet and training, and how drugs have become a crutch for you.
with the signiture "I LOVE MY ROIDS BABY"...one would expect for you to at least LOOK like they go to the gym on a regular basis
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I can get great info at BB.com with little to no hassle or bashing compared to here, now how ****ing sad is that huh?
Now I wait to be called a baby or some other shit like that...lol:popc2
this is the reason im posting this, i take personal offence you would compare CBB to a place like BB.com. the people at CBB are 10,000x more educated and willing to help than the teenagers at BB.com. you clearly only concern yourself with ppl's opinions of you. if you were to open your friggin eyes, you would see the tight community we have built here. and guess what, we DON'T like your kind.
heres my advice to you, and im being 100% serious. close this "dremen" account. create a new account, change your writing style, and start fresh.
this is the internet, after all.
ironwill
05-03-2010, 08:26 AM
Dremen Quote
even though Praetorian openly states it's one of the best cycles he's runs and recomends it to people he trains. So if Praetorian (who happens to be a ****ing PRO bodybuilder and CBB's go to guy for PROPER information and anything related to lifting) says it's awesome and I say it's awesome how come im the only "****ing idiot twat noob" that don't know shit?
AND!!!! Prae is not a pro....He is top 3 masters in Canada one year....No disrespect to Prae, but Pro he is not.....That is a title for the upper elite.....We have a few of them on here...
;)
natenator
05-03-2010, 08:37 AM
Dremen Quote
even though Praetorian openly states it's one of the best cycles he's runs and recomends it to people he trains. So if Praetorian (who happens to be a ****ing PRO bodybuilder and CBB's go to guy for PROPER information and anything related to lifting) says it's awesome and I say it's awesome how come im the only "****ing idiot twat noob" that don't know shit?
AND!!!! Prae is not a pro....He is top 3 masters in Canada one year....No disrespect to Prae, but Pro he is not.....That is a title for the upper elite.....We have a few of them on here...
;)
Pretty sure even he'd agree with that lol
waderow
05-03-2010, 09:41 AM
Is an example really necessary when the owner of the board has spoken about this so clearly?
I don't think you can help yourself from getting into an argument.
just trying to get my head around why there is such a burr in your foreskin and why all the tears.
The problem I think is blown out of proportion. Sure, we can all make an effort to be nicer, including me....maybe mostly me.... Yay, rainbows and bunny rabbits! I think that is what MP is tryign to achieve.
But I think youre just being a pussy about it, and are exaggerating things about these perceived relentless personal attacks and racism. There are in fact very few personal attacks that are not mutual, and they are contained usually in one thread where a couple guys will go back and forth about something, get it off their chest, and then forget about it.... except Dremen. That dumb ass gets it every time he opens his mouth because he writes dumb shit. The n-word gets dropped from time to time ( i bet you have an eminem album in your collection bana?), a little anti-jew talk, and a few comments about indians.... but lets face it, we are not organizing KKK rallies here.
tiramisu
05-03-2010, 10:04 AM
I notice, unsurprisingly, that the most aggressive people who enjoy personal attacks are the biggest defenders of the "I can say whatever I feel like on this board" mantra.
There is a huge silent majority who do not. It would be nice to get back to the topic of bodybuilding without the ad hominem attacks.
Personally I'm thinking of just cutting my losses and spending less time on CBB. There are far better things to do now that spring is almost here.
waderow
05-03-2010, 10:09 AM
I notice, unsurprisingly, that the most aggressive people who enjoy personal attacks are the biggest defenders of the "I can say whatever I feel like on this board" mantra.
There is a huge silent majority who do not. It would be nice to get back to the topic of bodybuilding without the ad hominem attacks.
Personally I'm thinking of just cutting my losses and spending less time on CBB. There are far better things to do now that spring is almost here.
I looked back through 100 new posts or more, and maybe one thread or two had a few heated discussions. Youre out to lunch on your "ad hominem" (like anyone here knows what this means) attacks bro. Why can no one point any out. There are a few between rob and I in a thread called "michael moore"...mutual attacks that involved noone else. A few against Dremen, but thats a gven..... Fill me in bro
and be a man. call me out instead of beat around the bush
edit, the new posts are pages and pages of bodybuilding topics, with a FEW off topic. YOu have your BB content, and it is perfectly fine and healthy
natenator
05-03-2010, 10:10 AM
I notice, unsurprisingly, that the most aggressive people who enjoy personal attacks are the biggest defenders of the "I can say whatever I feel like on this board" mantra.
There is a huge silent majority who do not. It would be nice to get back to the topic of bodybuilding without the ad hominem attacks.
Personally I'm thinking of just cutting my losses and spending less time on CBB. There are far better things to do now that spring is almost here.
I'm certainly not going to attempt to defend my behaviour at times but you aren't so high and mighty yourself. You've made personal remarks about another person in threads before - subtly or not.
You may not do it to the degree that I or Wade or some others have but you are guilty of the very thing you rally against (minus racist comments - not saying you've done that at all).
:tu :popc
just trying to get my head around why there is such a burr in your foreskin and why all the tears.
The problem I think is blown out of proportion. Sure, we can all make an effort to be nicer, including me....maybe mostly me.... Yay, rainbows and bunny rabbits! I think that is what MP is tryign to achieve.
But I think youre just being a pussy about it, and are exaggerating things about these perceived relentless personal attacks and racism. There are in fact very few personal attacks that are not mutual, and they are contained usually in one thread where a couple guys will go back and forth about something, get it off their chest, and then forget about it.... except Dremen. That dumb ass gets it every time he opens his mouth because he writes dumb shit. The n-word gets dropped from time to time ( i bet you have an eminem album in your collection bana?), a little anti-jew talk, and a few comments about indians.... but lets face it, we are not organizing KKK rallies here.
:tu :popc
ironwill
05-03-2010, 10:55 AM
Im going on NPP ...Ill be back in 2 weeks as wade is on now and we have fun on NPP together.....lolol...:)
waderow
05-03-2010, 11:11 AM
Im going on NPP ...Ill be back in 2 weeks as wade is on now and we have fun on NPP together.....lolol...:)
lol I am perfectly calm, and have been the whole time. Who have I attacked?????
haha
rob, buildtheskinnys (sirt of but not really), nate, dremen, and pdh. But we are back and forth and it was contained and mutual...
I find this thread comical. I see Mp's point and he wants us to all be nicer to one another, and perhaps receive newcomers better, but I myself, see no major widespread problems, especially pertaining to the whining about flagrant racism and ad homininumuin attacks lol
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 11:23 AM
Racist shit will stop here. That is top of the list. I don't need to name names. You know who you are and have been doing it for awhile. My patience with that is at and end.
A bodybuilding board is not the place to be posting racist stuff. There are boards out there that will welcome that. Here it will stop. I will ban you. No compromise.
Respect for women is another issue. Because you're hyped on test and sporting wood 24 hours a day does NOT make it ok to say disrespectful stuff toward women or about women. Can't handle the test, then get off it cause it's making you look like a classless immature kid.
And lastly start respecting other members. Not everyone is as knowledgeable as others and sometimes people just say or do stupid things in life. Doesn't mean it's ok to call them all kinds of names. I'm tired of seeing the word **** on this board and the word faggot. If you seriously speak that way in every day life, then
a) you don't hold a real job (or maybe work at Walmart)
b) you're in high school
c) you've been raised in an abusive family and hold tons of anger toward the world
d) you're trolling
If you disagree with someone or something, then you can say it like an adult and keep it clean. Some people may be sensitive and I can't help that but to deliberately try to berate or belittle someone and use distasteful words is childish and plain unhealthy for the board. If you disagree with someone, you can easily say something like, "I think what you are doing is irresponsible and you need to do more research. I highly recommend you stop doing it that way."
Instead of saying something like, "You're a ****ing idiot and you can't take the time to read cause you're a lazy faggot."
Is it really that hard to be constructive on the site? I mean really? If you don't get it then it means you don't really care about CBB so why should it care about you?
As of today I consider the slate wiped clean of past stuff. From today if you can't conduct yourself as a mature member, then you are no longer welcome here.
And no Ritch, I won't overmod the board. But I will ban. I encourage heated discussions, but as long as people can maintain respect. We are not robots that should be programmed to act or say things a certain way. Things sometimes don't go the way it should or said the best way. I'm down with that. I'm a tolerant person, always have been. But to purposely attack or instigate is what I'll be coming down on. About 5-10 people are guilty of that here. It's got to stop boys as you're starting to drag down the site and making the place less enjoyable. Which defeats the years of work I've been putting in to try to build a solid and enjoyable Canadian bodybuilding community.
ironwill
05-03-2010, 11:28 AM
lol I am perfectly calm, and have been the whole time. Who have I attacked?????
haha
Just jokes broheezy....I was reminiscing from a day gone by......;)
Ill wait until your NPP cycle is done, then ill start mine.....lolol:)
I wonder if we are the only 2 that gat that side effect??
waderow
05-03-2010, 11:30 AM
Just jokes broheezy....I was reminiscing from a day gone by......;)
Ill wait until your NPP cycle is done, then ill start mine.....lolol:)
I wonder if we are the only 2 that gat that side effect??
maybe we are the only two who recognize it?
ironwill
05-03-2010, 11:32 AM
Thats what im thinking....Honestly for some of us....I bet we can tell when guys are on cycle and off cycle, just by the posting format....Myself included....
Im grouchy when off...lol...:flowers
waderow
05-03-2010, 11:33 AM
Racist shit will stop here. That is top of the list. I don't need to name names. You know who you are and have been doing it for awhile. My patience with that is at and end.
A bodybuilding board is not the place to be posting racist stuff. There are boards out there that will welcome that. Here it will stop. I will ban you. No compromise.
Respect for women is another issue. Because you're hyped on test and sporting wood 24 hours a day does NOT make it ok to say disrespectful stuff toward women or about women. Can't handle the test, then get off it cause it's making you look like a classless immature kid.
And lastly start respecting other members. Not everyone is as knowledgeable as others and sometimes people just say or do stupid things in life. Doesn't mean it's ok to call them all kinds of names. I'm tired of seeing the word **** on this board and the word faggot. If you seriously speak that way in every day life, then
a) you don't hold a real job (or maybe work at Walmart)
b) you're in high school
c) you've been raised in an abusive family and hold tons of anger toward the world
d) you're trolling
If you disagree with someone or something, then you can say it like an adult and keep it clean. Some people may be sensitive and I can't help that but to deliberately try to berate or belittle someone and use distasteful words is childish and plain unhealthy for the board. If you disagree with someone, you can easily say something like, "I think what you are doing is irresponsible and you need to do more research. I highly recommend you stop doing it that way."
Instead of saying something like, "You're a ****ing idiot and you can't take the time to read cause you're a lazy faggot."
Is it really that hard to be constructive on the site? I mean really? If you don't get it then it means you don't really care about CBB so why should it care about you?
As of today I consider the slate wiped clean of past stuff. From today if you can't conduct yourself as a mature member, then you are no longer welcome here.
And no Ritch, I won't overmod the board. But I will ban. I encourage heated discussions, but as long as people can maintain respect. We are not robots that should be programmed to act or say things a certain way. Things sometimes don't go the way it should or said the best way. I'm down with that. I'm a tolerant person, always have been. But to purposely attack or instigate is what I'll be coming down on. About 5-10 people are guilty of that here. It's got to stop boys as you're starting to drag down the site and making the place less enjoyable. Which defeats the years of work I've been putting in to try to build a solid and enjoyable Canadian bodybuilding community.
understood, and points taken
I admit though MP that it will be hard for a lot of us to not rip a new ass out of someone who posts such silly things like "dont even warm up bro, just put 300 pounds on the bar and press it and take tren and deca and test amd test blend, and masteron for sides, as well as abombs all in high dose...youll be huge like me man... 210pounds!" if you know what I am saying, and maybe not in those exact words, but the example has been said.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 11:39 AM
It doesn't mean you have to answer. If you think someone is retarded and hate seeing their posts, go into their user page by clicking on their handle name and from the drop down, ignore them. It's like they won't even exist on the site for you. And everything will be roses and daisies again.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 11:45 AM
By the way, the main reason I am posting in this thread is because I DON'T WANT TO BAN ANYONE. Changing the behavior that has caused this thread to exist is what I'm after.
If I ban someone it usually means they've banned themselves by taking it too far. So if it happens to anyone, don't go getting your ego's all worked up and pissed off. I repeat, I don't want to ban anyone. But the health of CBB comes before any emotions I have about how much I like you or don't. There are members here that I have had issues with in the past and are still welcome because they bring something positive to the table. I do my best to leave my emotions out of the equation. Sometimes it's not possible but running a ship practically alone isn't as easy or glamorous as you might think.
guest
05-03-2010, 11:47 AM
*edited* sorry MP, didn't see the above before i posted. hitting the ignore button.
waderow
05-03-2010, 11:47 AM
It doesn't mean you have to answer. If you think someone is retarded and hate seeing their posts, go into their user page by clicking on their handle name and from the drop down, ignore them. It's like they won't even exist on the site for you. And everything will be roses and daisies again.
I would just hate to see some kid just beginning to work out, here for info, think some guy here with 1000 posts is his mentor and starts to do dumb things. This is why I would post a retort to such bad advice in the first place...not for personal enjoyment.
I can take a more ignorant approach though and let Darwinian evolution work its magic I suppose
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 11:55 AM
The retort you post is what CBB is all about. But how you word it is what is being discussed in this thread. Not just meaning you, there are a bunch of others doing it. Straight out insults and foul language. It's why we're all having an issue with it.
Ritch
05-03-2010, 11:57 AM
cuz you feel the heat now you agreed to tone down?
take it like a man :fart :mock
Oh Mr Flip, lucky for you new rules are set protecting "special" people like you from having their " rear ends " ripped appart by people like me. How about you get your head out of the hole it`s in and see WHO mentioned they were tired of the racist stuff, huh?
It was me "special person" So saying I agree to tone down now that the heat is on is just another example why you have yet again posted another post that belongs in the fail department. Get a clue, hoser.
And next time you make a post, try to have a point instead of having yourself pointed out as a ******* *******.
The end.
Delt King
05-03-2010, 12:02 PM
Well that was a nice G-rated response Ritch. LOL
Ritch
05-03-2010, 12:05 PM
Well that was a nice G-rated response Ritch. LOL
I`m trying. Not very happy with these new rules. May have to look for a new place to go. To politically correct now. I swear it`s going to become a goody two shoe place in 2 months if what remains in effect now stays.
waderow
05-03-2010, 12:12 PM
I`m trying. Not very happy with these new rules. May have to look for a new place to go. To politically correct now. I swear it`s going to become a goody two shoe place in 2 months if what remains in effect now stays.
agreed
I agree with MP wanting us to try to be nicer... sure, why not. We're all in this together, but I stand firm in that it wasnt a widespread problem. If MP want no racist comments, makes sense and I suppose there could be legal ramifications because of this ****ed up pansy PC countries laws, so point taken. The constant ad hominem (lol) attacks just doesnt exist. Banacek, or whatever started this thread and has berated me a few times now........in his effin thread about not berating people! He is a joke. Its a forum full of guys who speak their minds and offer tons of advice and help to everyone... from time ti time people get ripped on. LOL Dremen wouldnt last a minute there.
natenator
05-03-2010, 12:12 PM
It doesn't mean you have to answer. If you think someone is retarded and hate seeing their posts, go into their user page by clicking on their handle name and from the drop down, ignore them. It's like they won't even exist on the site for you. And everything will be roses and daisies again.
Agree but the problem with that then is people who do come here looking for advice will receive shit advice because everyone with a brain has ignored Dremen thus giving him free run to spew garbage to everyone and anyone.
But, we could call people an idiot in a more polite fashion I suppose :)
waderow
05-03-2010, 12:13 PM
But, we could call people an idiot in a more polite fashion I suppose :)
I did that, and then Dremen called me a goof. lol
natenator
05-03-2010, 12:15 PM
I did that, and then Dremen called me a goof. lol
I giggled. I shit you not, I did.
waderow
05-03-2010, 12:17 PM
I giggled. I shit you not, I did.
well, at least I was putting in an effort :greet
guest
05-03-2010, 01:49 PM
I`m trying. Not very happy with these new rules. May have to look for a new place to go. To politically correct now. I swear it`s going to become a goody two shoe place in 2 months if what remains in effect now stays.
I don't think it will. No one is shooting for a Utopia. i think the only rule is don't be a complete and senseless asshole. CBB has been around for a long time, the problem is only recent. Granted I haven't read all of your posts but anything you've written has never offended me.
waderow
05-03-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't think it will. No one is shooting for a Utopia. i think the only rule is don't be a complete and senseless asshole. CBB has been around for a long time, the problem is only recent. Granted I haven't read all of your posts but anything you've written has never offended me.
so there Ritch. As long as you do not disagree with babacek, you'll be alright.
rob66679
05-03-2010, 04:55 PM
lol I am perfectly calm, and have been the whole time. Who have I attacked?????
haha
rob, buildtheskinnys (sirt of but not really), nate, dremen, and pdh. But we are back and forth and it was contained and mutual...
I find this thread comical. I see Mp's point and he wants us to all be nicer to one another, and perhaps receive newcomers better, but I myself, see no major widespread problems, especially pertaining to the whining about flagrant racism and ad homininumuin attacks lol
For what its worth I don't mind a bit of back and forth sparring.
Some of the Racial stuff was bordering on doctrine IMHO ( not naming anyone in particular ) and was going a bit far.
But MP has laid out the laws of the board, so we'll see where it goes I guess.
I don't hold any kind of grudge against anyone here, hope you all enjoy your weekends.
CanadianIron
05-03-2010, 05:28 PM
Is this thread a joke, do you guys live and work in a sunday school?
This site is less offensive than my parents house. Who cares if people call each other nigars, I think black people lost their right to be pissed about that word when they went around call each other than for 100 years using it like some cool slang.
I call my white friends nigars all the time. As for people fighting, this is the internet and this is a mostly guys site with a bunch of anonomous dudes who will likely never meet and you expect people to be cordial to each other. HAH. Its laughable. If people are bitching at each other and attacking each other in legitimate BB related threads, sure they're assholes. But in the off topic etc, who cares, it doesnt count for shit. If you dont like the nature of the discussion, dont have OT sections on the site. Its impossible to regulate.
Like Wade said early on in this thread, job sites are 1000 times worse, movies, TV shows, bars/restaurants etc. This is the internet, its just words, it shouldnt be effecting you that much. Saying someone is a jew or nigar is one thing, but actually calling someone that in real life or actually discriminating is another thing, its on a much higher level then internet name calling, who gives a shit.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 05:42 PM
First ban in effect.
Next?
dremen
05-03-2010, 05:51 PM
Wow did not see that one coming:eek:
Gotta follow the:rulz
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 05:58 PM
This issue has moved up to the top of the list for me. If need be, a little more house cleaning will happen. I don't want it to come to that but I have no qualms doing it.
rickyboy36
05-03-2010, 06:01 PM
Im sorry to see IC gone..but man he was just asking for it in that thread
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:05 PM
As I said, if someone gets banned it's because they ban themselves. I lay down the rules for the site to flow in a healthy way. I tolerate a lot but if it gets to the point of taking my rules as a joke, well, no choice but to go. He wasn't even part of this whole issue. Weird to have answered like that.
waderow
05-03-2010, 06:10 PM
How do you know he read the whole thread?
Harsh considering the guy was kind and well spoken. Never attacked anyone even after being called out.
Not my cup of tea around here anymore.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:13 PM
Not my cup of tea around here anymore.
And why is that? Because I'm trying to get the site back to a healthy atmosphere or because you don't like that we're all getting fed up of ruined threads?
canadianFE
05-03-2010, 06:21 PM
Concider context, for now I'll be posted somewhere else, dont expect me to come back when the ban is lifted, unless you wanna stop being everyones daddie.
And for the record, I only read the first post and last page of this thread when I posted.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:24 PM
Goodbye.
gicantor
05-03-2010, 06:30 PM
That's two. Now were getting somewhere.
Not sure what CI was thinking with that post but wow.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:32 PM
CI has multiple handles here now that he's peaked my curiosity and got me verifying his ip's.
dremen
05-03-2010, 06:34 PM
Wow.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:35 PM
Got 4 handles with his ips. Which means something is fishy.
waderow
05-03-2010, 06:41 PM
And why is that? Because I'm trying to get the site back to a healthy atmosphere or because you don't like that we're all getting fed up of ruined threads?
MF, no one can show me any ruined threads...not even poor victimized babacek.
Tex left, and shit, he was as harsh to people as the next guy. I often had my jaw dropped by shit he said. And I often got rep from him for off colour shit I said.
I look at new posts, and it has hundreds of BB related, good healthy threads. A sporadic mix of off topic, and of that off topic mix, there are a few threads that have some heated discussion. On occasion, a n-word comes up, or someones called a fag(often playfully). Its just words. If someone is crying over it, they are too sensitive for a BB forum. I have been around, and CBB is right in the middle of the pack. Tamer than some, and worse than others. As far as personal attacks are concerned, it is not fun to be a noob on other sites. You get ripped apart badly for even hinting an original thought. That doesnt happen here unless you are Dremen. But his original thoughts are dangerous, so we cant count him anyways.
This site is a bunch of guys that are respectful to everyone. Shit, even Rob and I are cool with each other when it comes down to it, and I tell you, I could ring his neck sometimes with his ultra-left wing commie BS. Guys get into a little headbutting, and after its off their chests, they often become cool with each other. Nate and I started off butting heads, and still do on occasion, but I can honestly call the dude my friend. Just the way it is.
CI being banned was harsh. If I said it, I would have deserved it, as I was involved in the WHOLE discussion. CI never said one bad thing about anyone. He made a few guys look dumb, but that was it. He was just offering his 2cents about the n-word and how unimportant it actually is.
Babacek? Not sure why he is pouting. Same with Tiramasu.
Solution? Dont participate in off topic political discussions if you are too sensitive for it. Not the ban stick for those who make Babacek cry.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Not the ban stick for those who make Babacek cry.
And this is the hook you bait with hoping for a bite. Don't you get it wade, not everyone takes it like you do. You get your kicks this way. Others take it personally which ruins the experience for them.
waderow
05-03-2010, 07:00 PM
And this is the hook you bait with hoping for a bite. Don't you get it wade, not everyone takes it like you do. You get your kicks this way. Others take it personally which ruins the experience for them.
well, I dont recall ever having anything negative to say to the guy prior to today and his singling out of my behavior, and me baiting him is a new thing. He has me on ignore anyways.
months or years ago, in a heated discussion, those that didnt like the heat got out of the thread. Now, they stay in and cry about it.
What changed?
buildinthaskinnys
05-03-2010, 07:10 PM
I thought I was lame for coming here all the time, but people actually create multiple handles and come on here acting as different people? That should be the definition of lame
dremen
05-03-2010, 07:22 PM
well, I dont recall ever having anything negative to say to the guy prior to today
Well you have plenty of negative talk anyways and like the boss say you do try and bait people for your own personal kicks and that's not cool.
I don't think I myself have ever had a problem with you or said anything negative towards you untill you started with trash talking me.
If you are not happy with the boss man's new take on things then leave cause the "free for all" seems to be at an end.
I don't have a problem with you at all really and if you would chill with the name calling/put downs towards me I think we could have a couple good laughs together bro.
_Ragnar_
05-03-2010, 08:11 PM
I just want to say that I couldn't be happier with the way this is going. I have been coming here less and less over the last few months. I really like this place there are lots of good people with lots and lots of knowledge.
dremen
05-03-2010, 08:34 PM
I just want to say that I couldn't be happier with the way this is going. I have been coming here less and less over the last few months. I really like this place there are lots of good people with lots and lots of knowledge.
x2
MMASTAR
05-03-2010, 09:20 PM
I love all the BS that goes on here, the best threads to read are those that have some witty arguments in them, i agree with people being to sensitive, this is the internet, chill out. How do you deal with these situations in real life if you cant deal with them on the interenet? if you hate being here that much, then dont.
MuSuLPhReAk
05-03-2010, 09:34 PM
I like witty threads and responses too, but spewing hate and arguments everywhere for shits and giggles is what I'm putting an end to.
This hasn't only been in the off topic, it's spilled over to other forums. So it got my attention. Plus the complaints that have been coming in lately. The general population of the site is fed up and now it's my job to get it back on track.
Ritch
05-03-2010, 09:41 PM
So are bad words still allowed? I mean we`re among adults here. Say I have a rant to share, it`s only normal bad words are normal, no? And what about calling each other homo`s in the way we like to? Just wouldn`t be the same without it.
But I understand the whole cleaning up the wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmiiLx10Vio&feature=related
Ritch
05-03-2010, 09:50 PM
Love Mr Hankey!
How the "heck"does BAM find these crazy vids.
I figured it fit this situation perfectly ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Ritch
05-03-2010, 10:55 PM
^^^ Boooo!
MMASTAR
06-03-2010, 09:54 AM
So are we aloud to swear? Sometimes someone just needs to hear a simple F*** Off, am i aloud to say that?
MMASTAR
06-03-2010, 10:19 AM
I work construction and lots of us at work are friends on facebook and whatnot. Last week one of the guys at work complained to the boss about getting teased on facebook, my boss told him grow some thicker skin or get off the internet. Thats not even work related and he complained to our boss?? This is what i call an "easy cryer", no one likes easy cryers except other easy cryers.
MMASTAR
06-03-2010, 10:20 AM
do you know someone, or have you been affected by someone, who needs a punch in the face? People who need a punch in the face affect the lives of many. There is still no known cure for someone who deserves a punch in the face, except a punch in the face, but we can raise awareness...
MuSuLPhReAk
06-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Continue as you were before MMASTAR. Everything was cool with your behaviour and attitude. No reason get all worked up about this.
dremen
06-03-2010, 12:33 PM
So are we aloud to swear? Sometimes someone just needs to hear a simple F*** Off, am i aloud to say that?
I doubt very much swearing will bring about any trouble...lol
I think the boss just wants sexest and racist talk DONE WITH along with the singling out of members here. Like if people call eachother "stupid ****ing douche bags" all the time or stuff along those lines then im sure the hammer will be coming down.
MP is as fair as they come and from what i gather just wants everyone to act like ****ing adults from now on. No more of this school yard mentality.
Hope this clears things up bro.
rob66679
06-03-2010, 05:53 PM
Got 4 handles with his ips. Which means something is fishy.
He was a problem from day 1, ask Will about his first posts. They resulted in a warning that probably should have been a banning, nothing to do with off-color remarks either.
Or better still, look them up for yourselves guys. Now that we know he had 4 different handles I hope everybody is a lot more carefull.
We really need a system that automatically outs people with multiple handles, for our safety if nothing else.
Sorry for the highjack....
_Ragnar_
06-03-2010, 06:49 PM
do you know someone, or have you been affected by someone, who needs a punch in the face? People who need a punch in the face affect the lives of many. There is still no known cure for someone who deserves a punch in the face, except a punch in the face, but we can raise awareness...
LMAO that has been my FB status for the last few days!!
rob66679
06-03-2010, 07:37 PM
MF, no one can show me any ruined threads...not even poor victimized babacek.
Tex left, and shit, he was as harsh to people as the next guy. I often had my jaw dropped by shit he said. And I often got rep from him for off colour shit I said.
I look at new posts, and it has hundreds of BB related, good healthy threads. A sporadic mix of off topic, and of that off topic mix, there are a few threads that have some heated discussion. On occasion, a n-word comes up, or someones called a fag(often playfully). Its just words. If someone is crying over it, they are too sensitive for a BB forum. I have been around, and CBB is right in the middle of the pack. Tamer than some, and worse than others. As far as personal attacks are concerned, it is not fun to be a noob on other sites. You get ripped apart badly for even hinting an original thought. That doesnt happen here unless you are Dremen. But his original thoughts are dangerous, so we cant count him anyways.
This site is a bunch of guys that are respectful to everyone. Shit, even Rob and I are cool with each other when it comes down to it, and I tell you, I could ring his neck sometimes with his ultra-left wing commie BS. Guys get into a little headbutting, and after its off their chests, they often become cool with each other. Nate and I started off butting heads, and still do on occasion, but I can honestly call the dude my friend. Just the way it is.
CI being banned was harsh. If I said it, I would have deserved it, as I was involved in the WHOLE discussion. CI never said one bad thing about anyone. He made a few guys look dumb, but that was it. He was just offering his 2cents about the n-word and how unimportant it actually is.
Babacek? Not sure why he is pouting. Same with Tiramasu.
Solution? Dont participate in off topic political discussions if you are too sensitive for it. Not the ban stick for those who make Babacek cry.
For what its worth I enjoy your antics as long as they don't get to far into the racial area.
You have given me good advice, and honestly this board has helped me do a proper cycle without putting myself at undue risk.
CI put the whole board in jeopardy the first week he joined, he def got my attention. In his posts after that he often contradicted himself, so I figured either he was just a bullshitter or something.
The whole multiple accounts thing changes that.
kloan
06-03-2010, 07:45 PM
do you know someone, or have you been affected by someone, who needs a punch in the face? People who need a punch in the face affect the lives of many. There is still no known cure for someone who deserves a punch in the face, except a punch in the face, but we can raise awareness...
Facebook memes...... at least a few of my friends had that on their status.
Being the only target I know of on this board to racially discriminatory attacks, I have to wonder if any of you even know what the **** you're talking about. It's prevalent in society, it's not a big deal etc, yet when you experience some consequence of your ancestors, oh my how unfair and discriminatory it is. Frankly, you don't have a ****ing clue. I've thought of leaving the board several times b/c of the blatant racism, but that thought quickly dissolves in favour of strength.
I grew up most of my life trying to hide who I was because of the attitudes displayed on this board, but no more mofo's. I'm giving fair warning, those who start with the racist shit directed specifically at me, will experience humiliation beyond comprehension. I'm a pretty nice guy, and I've always held back with my words, but trust me, I can be the nicest guy or the meanest mofo in the valley. Most of you have a long searchable history on this board, and I will use it. Lay off the ****ing racist personal attacks. You want to attack my character, have at er.
Ritch
07-03-2010, 06:39 PM
Well said pdh. I don`t wish any attacks on you, but can only imagine how bad you would rip the poor bastard apart who tries. They should consider themselves warned.
Being the only target I know of on this board to racially discriminatory attacks, I have to wonder if any of you even know what the **** you're talking about. It's prevalent in society, it's not a big deal etc, yet when you experience some consequence of your ancestors, oh my how unfair and discriminatory it is. Frankly, you don't have a ****ing clue. I've thought of leaving the board several times b/c of the blatant racism, but that thought quickly dissolves in favour of strength.
I grew up most of my life trying to hide who I was because of the attitudes displayed on this board, but no more mofo's. I'm giving fair warning, those who start with the racist shit directed specifically at me, will experience humiliation beyond comprehension. I'm a pretty nice guy, and I've always held back with my words, but trust me, I can be the nicest guy or the meanest mofo in the valley. Most of you have a long searchable history on this board, and I will use it. Lay off the ****ing racist personal attacks. You want to attack my character, have at er.
I didn't realize I was targetting anyone in particular. Clearly you must be referring to me since you don't look black. Anything I have said on racial matters is inarguably correct if anyone cared to do any research.
Is it racism to point out to my racial bretheren that we have been conquered while we slept by a more cunning race? If anything, my comments offered praise to a successful race, a race that I feel my own should emmulate so that we can be competetive.
I realize I have lost some friends by my words. It is unfortunate because as individuals, I like you, but in the big picture, there are monopolies and other injustices that I feel need to be remedied.
If these things make me a terrible person, so be it.
natenator
07-03-2010, 08:50 PM
I didn't realize I was targetting anyone in particular. Clearly you must be referring to me since you don't look black. Anything I have said on racial matters is inarguably correct if anyone cared to do any research.
Is it racism to point out to my racial bretheren that we have been conquered while we slept by a more cunning race? If anything, my comments offered praise to a successful race, a race that I feel my own should emmulate so that we can be competetive.
I realize I have lost some friends by my words. It is unfortunate because as individuals, I like you, but in the big picture, there are monopolies and other injustices that I feel need to be remedied.
If these things make me a terrible person, so be it.
pretty sure he meant Daande lol
lol.. hope so
always liked pdh.
It's got nothing to do with you Bam. I consider you an internet friend. It's the fellas who are directly saying I'm huffing gas and stealing trucks that are starting to get my goat. I can take quite a bit in good stride but enough before I truly retaliate.
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