genetics and AAS

[musclehead123]

What is it in a person's genetics that makes them respond to steroids differently that one and other. Lets assume everybody that takes steroids is at about the level as far as genetic potential goes.

Are the people that respond to training better, the same type of people that respond to AAS?

[vakker]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

[tiramisu]

This is an awesome set of questions.

[revolution187]

hey vakker u would never have the balls to say that to a natives face...wahat gives man? feeling protected cause ur behind a keyboard, i have a feeling u would be a total victim if this was real life

[declan]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

I don't know you personally, but this is just an uneducated assumption.

[rated_rko]

certain muscles will show off stronger than others...

[Victor85]

The amount of muscle cells in a area. The more the better.

[kawikaratekid]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

Really!?

[Taurine]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

There is a theory going out about natives being more prone to alcoholism. See, Europeans have been drinking alcoholic for at least five thousand years and Native Americans have been drinking it for less than three hundred years. Therefore in terms of genetics the Native American genes' have not had the time to evolve to tolerate alcohol as the European have.

However this does not mean that all natives have the urge to drink, as well as I completely disagree with the statements "white men can't jump" and also with "natives have the urge to steal".

[kloan]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.
I think you need this vakker,

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[Taurine]

What is it in a person's genetics that makes them respond to steroids differently that one and other. Lets assume everybody that takes steroids is at about the level as far as genetic potential goes.

Are the people that respond to training better, the same type of people that respond to AAS?

I am thinking about this questions, I am some what confused,
Could you please rephrase the question?

Everyone will have a response to AAS. What do you mean "respond to
training better"? - Greater natural gains? More genetically inclined to gain mass? strength?

[guest]

There is a theory going out about natives being more prone to alcoholism. See, Europeans have been drinking alcoholic for at least five thousand years and Native Americans have been drinking it for less than three hundred years. Therefore in terms of genetics the Native American genes' have not had the time to evolve to tolerate alcohol as the European have.

However this does not mean that all natives have the urge to drink, as well as I completely disagree with the statements "white men can't jump" and also with "natives have the urge to steal".

I think thieves exist in all races.

Just food for thought; Consider the rate of alcoholism in Russia alone. These European individuals have no choice but to remain productive or die, maybe that is why it isn't as noticeable? You fellas in Alberta probably know a few Uke's or Poles like this. Europeans were not only exposed to alcohol much sooner but wage labor as well.

[Praetorian]

There isnt a proven theory as to why some people respond better than others. The general consensus however is that these people are usually very gifted athletically ie they excell in other sports as well. Thus they have an advantage prior to even starting training...and I'm sure receptor affintity had alot to do with their ability for linear type growth.
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[daande]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

and inhale stolen gas.

[ironwill]

I have heard it is the number of receptors, and the number of receptive receptors in the body that makes a big difference, it seems to make sense.....In regards to why one man can take 500 mgs of test and grow, and another requires 250 mg to grow........
As far as one man getting good gains from natural trng and then getting great gains adding aas....I dont see the same amnt of growth...I know some guys on or off look great, they go off for a very long period and stay looking good, then go ON, and maybe gain 10 lbs, but dont change much...Then others it is night and day....When off, they are normal looking, then go on, and look like freaks...??
Good questions...

[revolution187]

hey kloan someone broke into my house and stole all my colt anals, IT WAS U WASNT IT?

[O-Train]

^ Natural steroid hormones, be-it testosterone/adrogens etc, leave the blood stream toward target cells, where they pass through the cell's membrane (because they're lipids) in to the cytoplasm. Here they combine with a *specific receptor cell* and the union creates what's called a hormone-receptor complex (HRC). The HRC enters the nucleus of the cell and attaches to DNA cells. This union activates an enzyme which sends a message to the ribosomes in the cytoplasm, to begin production of specific proteins, which causes growth.

Specific receptor cells, are exactly that. Only certain hormones puzzle together... if they can't puzzle they obviously won't react.. this is how the body differs different types of hormones and allows them to go to their proper place.

Point being.. (going back to what IW said).. everyone has different amounts of these receptors which explains how one may react positively or negatively compared to someone else.

:) Cheers!

I don't think everything is set in stone though. A person's genetics would roughly determine the amount of hormone receptors but...I would bet that environmental factors could alter this also.

I'm thinking its any number of factors including diet, age, obviously genetics, training stimulus, hormone levels (both genetic and environmental)...stress levels, various toxins, disease etc...

I think it's kind of like how a person is genetically pre-determined to have different ratio's of fast and slow twitch muscle fiber. All other things being roughly equal it will always be the person who is more receptive to hormones that will respond the best. Just like the person born with the largest percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers has the ability to run fast and grow bigger, stronger muscles.

[ironwill]

All other things being roughly equal it will always be the person who is more receptive to hormones that will respond the best. .

Which once you said everything else, and all being equal, then the more receptive and more receptors in ones body, then that may be the determining factor....Correct.....
Of course age has something to do with it....Of course toxins etc do as well, but That is NOT GENETICS duder......That is environmental, the question was genetics....;)
GENETICS........

[O-Train]

Well mutations can be triggered by many environmental factors. This directly effects your "genetics" so it's not a black and white kind of issue. You're right though, I didn't remember what the initial question was.

[tiramisu]

Interesting aside, in some cases environmental factors can turn on genetic properties.

genetics and environment are not so black and white as we might like.

On the genetics side, some lucky bastards are not only born with more receptors, they are also born with more muscle cells. They simply have a higher density of muscle cells than normal and when these hypertrophy they grow more than someone who has less.

****ers.

[TryGear]

all opinions aside "as I deliver mine" I think Diet/metabolism are the most important factors as to who best better gains on or off AAS, but from personal experiance if ya don't eat.....all the AAS in the world won't help. so all things being equal, drug, diet , training, the guy with the slower metabolism will gain more, and vise versa for the guy trying to cut, faster metabolism will win. IMO

[tiramisu]

I think you are wrong.

A slower metabolism is great if you want to be fat.
If you want muscle you want a screamingly fast metabolism and excess calories.

I want to be a food processing machine to gain muscle.

[kloan]

hey kloan someone broke into my house and stole all my colt anals, IT WAS U WASNT IT?

no i only took the one.. needed it for the photo

[metis boy]

DNA. Just like how white men can't jump and natives have the urge to steal and drink.

When i see things like this i just laugh... typical steriotype... im native (well metis). I have a great job (electrical tech for mb hydro) i stay in shape year round, married and never stole in my life... yep i think your an idiot for writing something like that

[vakker]

When i see things like this i just laugh... typical steriotype... im native (well metis). I have a great job (electrical tech for mb hydro) i stay in shape year round, married and never stole in my life... yep i think your an idiot for writing something like that

I'm white who's married to a native.

I can say whatever I want. nazi.

[tiramisu]

I'm white who's married to a native.

I can say whatever I want. nazi.

Your wife married an asshole.

[kloan]

Your wife married an asshole.

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[KoN]

lol da jakes on you bro you married a native

[vakker]

lol da jakes on you bro you married a native

no shit, she stole my bike yesterday.

[metis boy]

I'm white who's married to a native.

I can say whatever I want. nazi.

Haha I said what I had to say... Your an idiot end of disscussion I have better things do than argue with someone like u

[natenator]

Your wife married an asshole.
Pot or kettle.

Which are you?

[guest]

no shit, she stole my bike yesterday.

everyone can get all pissy but this post was funny. for all the outlandish shit that gets posted on this board, has anyone considered he may have just been being sarcastic?

i don't recall seeing too many bleeding hearts in any of wade's threads with negative connotations towards blacks.

[natenator]

everyone can get all pissy but this post was funny. for all the outlandish shit that gets posted on this board, has anyone considered he may have just been being sarcastic?

i don't recall seeing too many bleeding hearts in any of wade's threads with negative connotations towards blacks.
+1

[tiramisu]

The racist shit isn't funny. Nate, I'm sorry but I'm putting you on ignore. While you are a pretty good bodybuilder you're just too much of a ****ing asshole for me to read. bye.

[natenator]

The racist shit isn't funny. Nate, I'm sorry but I'm putting you on ignore. While you are a pretty good bodybuilder you're just too much of a ****ing asshole for me to read. bye.
You tell another person their wife married an asshole and *I* the asshole? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

You are both Pot and Kettle.

Love you :)